Mailman 3 March 2015 - Mailman-Developers

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Doubt regarding threads
by Aanand Shekhar Roy 11 Mar '15

11 Mar '15

> After enough exchanges, the reference line will get too long, and then > the proper (per the RFC) procedure is to drop the oldest reference. (For > threading to work in the MUA, it only needs the last couple to find the > latest message that has been received and thread under it) > > There is also the fact that some MUAs will only reference the message it > is a direct reply to with a Reply-To header and not process References > at all. > What we can do, instead of having subject header for thread, we can look upto in-reply-to header , if the msg has no in-reply-to header then we can assume it as a starting thread, otherwise it is a part of some thread. So the database 1 from which we were calculating count of posts on particular thread will now look like: User_Id | Msg_Id | Thread_Id | Count here, if the in-reply-to header of user B is msg-id of any existing entry in database1, then he is a part of that conversation. By this, the user can't bypass the throttling system by causing minor changes in the subject. Also, even if he try to change the Subject then also it will fall under the same thread, because of the in-reply-to header. > There is also the problem of people just starting a new message with out > using reply (or a digest user replying to the digest) which will place > the message in a new thread. Yes, thats a problem, but I'm all idea'd out on how to work this out. I even asked Hyperkitty developer > > This is why I made the comment that "per thread" limits really need to > be combined with some form of over-all limit or new-thread limit to > minimize the ability to "game" the system. > > -- > Richard Damon > >

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GSoC 2015 - Better handling of list styles
by Alangi Derick 11 Mar '15

11 Mar '15

Hello, I already introduced myself on the mailing list. I am also interested in working on Better handling of list styles project for mailman. I have had a big problem on posting styles when organisations use mailman and i understand the stress involved if a particular posting style is set and users don't follow them in the list. This project has caught my attention and i want to execute this project during the summer and i will like to discuss with the mentors of the project so that we get started at once and begin the work. Regards Alangi Derick Ndimnain

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Introduction
by Alangi Derick 11 Mar '15

11 Mar '15

If a mentor of the Project: Anonymous list is around in the IRC channel, we can discuss on this project and if he is not there yet, when he sees this post, he should join me in the channel and we discuss. Like i said earlier, my irc nick is: d3r1ck. Thanks Regards Alangi Derick Ndimnain On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Alangi Derick <alangiderick(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > My name is Alangi Derick, and i am a third year student in the > department of computer engineering, University of Buea, Cameroon. Cameroon > is in Africa and i have gone through the idea list of this organisation for > GSoC 2015. I am interested in some projects on the idea list and i want to > concentrate on the project called: Anonymous list and Mailman Client > Written in JS. > I am very good at technologies like; > - JavaScript > - Python > - C > - Git > - SVN > - PHP, HTML, CSS > - Phaser(JavaScript Frame-Work) > - ... > My interest in this two projects have made me to contribute to the GNU > Mailman source codes. I am in the #mailman irc channel and my nick is: > d3r1ck. Please i will like to talk to mentors of these two projects that i > mentioned above in order to start working on them now. Thanks > > Regards > Alangi Derick Ndimnain >

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Introduction
by Alangi Derick 11 Mar '15

11 Mar '15

Hello, My name is Alangi Derick, and i am a third year student in the department of computer engineering, University of Buea, Cameroon. Cameroon is in Africa and i have gone through the idea list of this organisation for GSoC 2015. I am interested in some projects on the idea list and i want to concentrate on the project called: Anonymous list and Mailman Client Written in JS. I am very good at technologies like; - JavaScript - Python - C - Git - SVN - PHP, HTML, CSS - Phaser(JavaScript Frame-Work) - ... My interest in this two projects have made me to contribute to the GNU Mailman source codes. I am in the #mailman irc channel and my nick is: d3r1ck. Please i will like to talk to mentors of these two projects that i mentioned above in order to start working on them now. Thanks Regards Alangi Derick Ndimnain

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Approach for Post-Throttling
by Aanand Shekhar Roy 11 Mar '15

11 Mar '15

> > database 1 will be required for counting post on threads, also, > > whether the threads are same or not will be decided according to > > the subject header. For a subject header "abc" we consider the > > following subjects as the same: Re: abc Fwd: abc abc We will strip > > the prefixes Re, Fwd off before adding them to database 1. > > We already have code to do that kind of thing, if not in Mailman 3, in > Mailman 2 (pipermail) and in HyperKitty. Make sure you consider > existing implementations, possibly including those outside of Mailman > if they do a better job. > With the help of Richard and Aurelien Bompard, I found a better way to group the threads, Hyperkitty currently use this mechanism to group their threads, we will use In-Reply-To header of the message to determine the thread instead of using subject-header, by this, user will not be able to bypass the throttling system by causing minor changes in the subject. By this, suppose the starting thread is "abc" and if the user replies to this thread even by using different name in subject like "def", then also it will fall under the same thread. To get it done, we will have to decompose the database 1 into 2 parts, One mapping Message_IDs to Threads,we will need to keep one of these records for every message, not just every user/thread as someone may well reply to not the last post by a user. (we can let them expire after a given period of time) 1.user_id | msg_id | thread_id Second the users activity on a given thread, the second thus only needs one record per user-thread) 2.user_id | thread_id | count One way to bypass this system is by composing new mail. This can also be avoided to an extent if we provide limit on the number of new threads one can start on the list. Regards Aanand

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Queries related to Implementation of User registration using inbuilt User Model
by Abhilash Raj 11 Mar '15

11 Mar '15

Hi Prakhar, On Wednesday 11 March 2015 01:08 PM, prakhar joshi wrote: > Hi, > I am Prakhar (IRC Name :- _pjoshi) . I am working on the bug > https://bugs.launchpad.net/postorius/+bug/1058457 and written a description > of what we have discussed on IRC. I want to get the feedback for that thing > so that I should start proceeding with the same. Hoping for reply The people interested in the bug are probably already subscribed to the bug mail. It is not necessary to post it here. -- thanks, Abhilash

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Users cannot edit their own settings Edit
by prakhar joshi 11 Mar '15

11 Mar '15

hi, I am Prakhar (IRC name :- _pjoshi). I have been looking for this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/postorius/+bug/1066184 and think that for edition thing we need a separate page which will load the User setting form only when user is logged in and then user can change their settings there. And the view for the current user account profile is also required so that other people can see his/her information too. So in a nutshell what we need is :- 1) We need to keep the present user profile page so that others can see his/her profile. 2) We need to keep an option for user to change its settings by providing a form and the form. I think I will solve that bug bt just need your opinion on that. Hoping for reply. Thanks, Prakhar Joshi DA-IICT,Gandhinagar

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Queries related to Implementation of User registration using inbuilt User Model
by prakhar joshi 11 Mar '15

11 Mar '15

Hi, I am Prakhar (IRC Name :- _pjoshi) . I am working on the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/postorius/+bug/1058457 and written a description of what we have discussed on IRC. I want to get the feedback for that thing so that I should start proceeding with the same. Hoping for reply Thanks, Prakhar Joshi DA-IICT,Gandhinagar

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Continuous Integration for Mailman Suite
by Prakash kumar 11 Mar '15

11 Mar '15

Hello I am interested in idea of continuous integration for mm3. As mentioned on the ideas page I read the archives of last year gsoc and also read the blog of Varun Sharma(http://blog.sharmalabs.org/), who worked on this idea last year. My few questions are- 1. What are the tasks left to be implemented in this project? 2. Can you give me a link of Varun's code? Please guide me further on this idea. Thank You Prakash Kumar

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Regarding the idea " A Dashboard for Admins/Owners/Moderators "
by Stephen J. Turnbull 10 Mar '15

10 Mar '15

Abhilash Raj writes: > What you need to start with is clearly stating what do you mean by > "Dashboard", +1 Also (I've referenced this before), two years ago Systers had a project "Mailman Interface" or "MI" which was exactly a dashboard (if by dashboard you mean a "collection of widgets nicely arranged to manage various aspects of your Mailman activities and configuration"). The student was Shanu Salunke aka dardie, I think her stuff was on github under dardie.

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