Mailman 3 March 2015 - Mailman-Developers

Re: [Mailman-Developers] How do I turn on/off moderation of subscription requests?
by Barry Warsaw March 21, 2015

March 21, 2015

On Mar 20, 2015, at 04:39 PM, Aurelien Bompard wrote: >Alright, I resurrected your branch to the best of my understanding. I hope >it's more Lazarus than Reanimator. > > https://code.launchpad.net/~abompard/mailman/subpolicy > >All tests pass, but there's still a missing part: the new attribute in the >MailingList table must still be actually written as a column, and an >Alembic migration script must be generated. I'm going to do that in the >next hours (or maybe on … [View More]

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About writing proposals
by Stephen J. Turnbull March 21, 2015

March 21, 2015

To the students and mentors, I've written the following on several students' proposals, but think it's useful to make them public, and I've learned some things since writing them. A couple of students have provided links to mockups of user interfaces and so on. I think it's useful to provide a mockup as a linked object, but you need to provide verifiable documentation of its content such as the commit ID in a git repo so that we can confirm you don't change it after the deadline date. Also, … [View More]

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC'15: Improving styles for lists
by Abhilash Raj March 21, 2015

March 21, 2015

Hi Prakhar, I see that you mentioned below the details of our conversation, but the language looks confusing to me. Please look out for simple mistakes in your English before sending the mail, not just here but anywhere. On Friday 20 March 2015 12:37 PM, prakhar joshi wrote: > hi, > For the storage of list we will have table for list styles and when > the admin creates a new list he/she will edit some attributes of particular > list. By attribute I mean the options under each … [View More]mailing list style like > announce list have "allow list post". Admin can change there values. You meant 'their' here and not 'there'. > style table will have all the attributes(same attributes that are listed in > mailing list table) in column but the values of attributes that user will > change will be stored in the table and rest values will be null. With > improving the "apply" method for styles we can over write the present > settings of the mailing list. I hope this is making sense to you ? What he means to say is we can create a generic Style class, another implementation of IStyle interface which instead of having static values of attributes like existing styles would have methods to dynamically fetch the stored styles from database. This new class would have all the attributes of a MailigList class that can be customized using list styles ( we can leave out attributes like list_name, list_id). > I will have table for style which will be having only changed attributes in > it and rest of the attributes will be null. For example if admin has > changed the attribute "send_welcome_message" under discussion and other > attribute like "advertise" under public list then these two attributes with > their values defined by admin will be stores under the list style name and > rest all the attributes which have been there in the mailinglist table will > be null for the list style table. Now by using apply function on list style > table the values of attributes will be overwritten on the mailing list > table when admin apply that list. > > Only admin will be able to change the settings and by having user section I > mean we have to specify the admin of each style so that at time of showing > present styles for a particular admin we will fetch only styles with that > admin name from the style table, as we don't want other (admins) to change > saved styles for particular admin. That is why admin field is essential in > the style table. If we create styles for ease-of-implementation of Admins and Moderators, it is required that we support some level of authorization to edit/use those styles. So for that purpose each style create would belong to a `User` and can only be viewed/edited by him. Ideally it would be nice if we could set different access levels for styles, like public, read_only, private. >> prakhar joshi writes: >> >> > what if we create separate tables for each class in the >> > mailman/src/mailman/styles/base.py and store the name and their >> attributes >> > in it with user_name with it. >> >> Who are these "users" (subscribers? admins?) and why do you want to >> associate styles with users? Please use more descriptive terms unless >> you really need to describe something generic. But here IIRC the >> styles are for lists, and therefore the relevant users are list >> admins. However, why would a style be associated with a list admin? >> The same admin might have announce lists and discussion lists as well >> as anonymous lists, and so on. This is not the association of "users" with styles, it is just meant for authorization purpose. Also `user_id` would be better option to use as a ForeignKey instead of `user_name` which is an optional argument for `User`. -- thanks, Abhilash [View Less]

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GSoC 2015: Anonymous Users & Dashboards
by Stephen J. Turnbull March 21, 2015

March 21, 2015

Sreyanth writes: > Hi Terri & others > > I am Sreyantha Chary (you can call me Sreyanth), a current MBA student at > IIM Ahmedabad. I have been a GSoC student for the past 2 years and would > like to hack on Mailman this year. > > I am interested in implementing the *anonymous *users feature and > dashboards for admins/owners/mods > > I have a few questions in mind about the anonymous users feature. > > 1. Lets say a user A sends an … [View More]

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Regarding Subscriber profile pages project
by Barry Warsaw March 20, 2015

March 20, 2015

On Mar 17, 2015, at 10:36 PM, Ashish Kumar wrote: >1. Use of different email addresses - so called aliases - for sending >emails Mailman 3's model is that users can have one or more addresses linked to their record, and can specific a preferred address. You can subscribe to a mailing list with any specific address, or with the generic preferred address. Thus if the user changes their preferred address, all the subscriptions tied to the preferred automatically get changed over, with no … [View More]

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GSOC'15: Improving styles for lists
by Stephen J. Turnbull March 20, 2015

March 20, 2015

prakhar joshi writes: > I am thinking of storing the styles in the database by creating a > table for the styles in the db Mailman's databases are not relational dbs, they're object-oriented. Underneath the objects are stored in relational dbs and managed by an ORM (SQLAlchemy), of course, but the Mailman API is object-based. If you want to think of your schema in terms of tables, I don't think you'll have any trouble in design, but when you get to the implementation stage you'… [View More]

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Fwd: Re: Discussion about Mailman plugins(GSOC 2015)]
by Barry Warsaw March 20, 2015

March 20, 2015

On Mar 20, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Aanand Shekhar Roy wrote: >I wonder if we could add our modules of plugin to the var/ext( which is built >for plug-ins), and then importing those modules(i.e. handlers ,rules etc) to >the config.py using python imports, by doing this we wont have to add our >modules to the sys.path and so we will avert the complexities of using >customized paths. Please correct me if I am wrong. Right now config.EXT_DIR (a.k.a. [paths.*]ext_dir or /etc/mailman.d) … [View More]

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Bug 1418276] Re: Deleting a user via the REST API does not delete their user preferences
by Barry Warsaw March 20, 2015

March 20, 2015

On Mar 20, 2015, at 05:41 PM, Abhishek wrote: >In rest/tests/test_users.py you have used >config.db.store.query(Preferences) inside with. But there is another >usage of it in line 221 and also in the file model/tests/test_user.py >which are not inside with block. Any specific reason for the >difference..? > >230 with transaction(): >231 preferences = config.db.store.query(Preferences).filter_by( >232 id=anne.preferences.id) >233 … [View More]

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015 Introduction
by Abhilash Raj March 20, 2015

March 20, 2015

Hi Ana, On Friday 20 March 2015 09:52 AM, Ana Badescu wrote: > Hello, > > I'm Ana Badescu, and I'm a first year Artificial Intelligence graduate at > Polytechnic University of Bucharest, Faculty of Automatic Control and > Computer Science, looking to participate in GSOC 2015, hopefully with > Mailman! > > You might believe that I arrived late. However, I have just installed the > mailman client, mailman core and the Postorius and got them up and running > in … [View More]

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] How do I turn on/off moderation of subscription requests?
by Aurelien Bompard March 20, 2015

March 20, 2015

> Do you think I can help you work on that? Or would you prefer doing the > initial branch resurrection? > Anything I need to know before I start? > Alright, I resurrected your branch to the best of my understanding. I hope it's more Lazarus than Reanimator. https://code.launchpad.net/~abompard/mailman/subpolicy All tests pass, but there's still a missing part: the new attribute in the MailingList table must still be actually written as a column, and an Alembic migration script … [View More]

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