Mailman 3 March 2016 - Mailman-Developers

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC 16
by Pranjal Yadav 08 Mar '16

08 Mar '16

Hi everyone > Hi Saurabh > I am a second year student from IIIT hyderabad. > I liked the project GitLab/development tools integration > How should I proceed into this project. > First step is to complete the setup. You should follow " http://mailman.readthedocs.org/en/release-3.0/". You can also take a look at " http://mailman-bundler.readthedocs.org/en/latest/", since you will be building it for the first time it is expected that you may face some issues, if not, great! Next step would be "following" the mailing list since many other students are looking out for the listed projects and a lot of information is available in the mails. You will mostly find all the FAQs. Then you can start looking for some beginner level bugs, This should get you started :) All the best > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-Developers mailing list > Mailman-Developers(a)python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/godricglow%40gma… > > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > -- *Pranjal Yadav* *IIT Kharagpur*

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman-bundler installation
by Daman Singh 08 Mar '16

08 Mar '16

On 3/8/16, Aditya Divekar <adityadivekar03(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > I recently reinstalled my OS, ubuntu 14.04 , and was trying to get the > development server for mailman running. (I had mailman running in my > previous OS setup, but I had to reinstall my OS due to some python issues) > For this I was following the mailman-bundler documentation. After > activating the python2.7 virtual environment, when I give the command to > start mailman, I get an error. > (venv) aditya@aditya:~/mailman-server/mailman-bundler$ sudo > ./bin/mailman-web-django-admin runserver & > [1] 3299 > (venv) aditya@aditya:~/mailman-server/mailman-bundler$ INFO Generating > grammar tables from /usr/lib/python2.7/lib2to3/Grammar.txt > INFO Generating grammar tables from > /usr/lib/python2.7/lib2to3/PatternGrammar.txt > INFO Generating grammar tables from /usr/lib/python2.7/lib2to3/Grammar.txt > INFO Generating grammar tables from > /usr/lib/python2.7/lib2to3/PatternGrammar.txt > Performing system checks... > > System check identified no issues (0 silenced). > March 07, 2016 - 20:43:38 > Django version 1.8.11, using settings 'mailman_web.development' > Starting development server at http://127.0.0.1:8000/ > Quit the server with CONTROL-C. > /home/aditya/mailman-server/mailman-bundler/mailman_web/urls.py:7: > RemovedInDjango19Warning: Default value of 'RedirectView.permanent' will > change from True to False in Django 1.9. Set an explicit value to silence > this warning. > url(r'^$', > RedirectView.as_view(url=reverse_lazy('hyperkitty.views.index.index'))), > > WARNING /home/aditya/mailman-server/mailman-bundler/mailman_web/urls.py:7: > RemovedInDjango19Warning: Default value of 'RedirectView.permanent' will > change from True to False in Django 1.9. Set an explicit value to silence > this warning. > url(r'^$', > RedirectView.as_view(url=reverse_lazy('hyperkitty.views.index.index'))), > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/lib/python2.7/wsgiref/handlers.py", line 85, in run > self.result = application(self.environ, self.start_response) > File > "/home/aditya/mailman-server/mailman-bundler/eggs/Django-1.8.11-py2.7.egg/django/contrib/staticfiles/handlers.py", > line 63, in __call__ > return self.application(environ, start_response) > File > "/home/aditya/mailman-server/mailman-bundler/eggs/Django-1.8.11-py2.7.egg/django/core/handlers/wsgi.py", > line 170, in __call__ > self.load_middleware() > File > "/home/aditya/mailman-server/mailman-bundler/eggs/Django-1.8.11-py2.7.egg/django/core/handlers/base.py", > line 50, in load_middleware > mw_class = import_string(middleware_path) > File > "/home/aditya/mailman-server/mailman-bundler/eggs/Django-1.8.11-py2.7.egg/django/utils/module_loading.py", > line 26, in import_string > module = import_module(module_path) > File "/usr/lib/python2.7/importlib/__init__.py", line 37, in > import_module > __import__(name) > ImportError: No module named middleware > Here is a small suggestion, instead of pasting terminal text here you should consider using pastebin. > I tried checking for the solution online, but couldn't find a fix. I > reinstalled django twice to ensure that the installation was thorough, and > that all the libraries were installed. > Has anyone faced this issue? > Note - I am currently running django 1.9.4 in both python3 and python2.7, > and have installed django 1.8.11 in the 'venv' virtual environment. > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-Developers mailing list > Mailman-Developers(a)python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/daman.4880%40gma… > > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 >

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Mailman-bundler installation
by Aditya Divekar 08 Mar '16

08 Mar '16

Hi, I recently reinstalled my OS, ubuntu 14.04 , and was trying to get the development server for mailman running. (I had mailman running in my previous OS setup, but I had to reinstall my OS due to some python issues) For this I was following the mailman-bundler documentation. After activating the python2.7 virtual environment, when I give the command to start mailman, I get an error. (venv) aditya@aditya:~/mailman-server/mailman-bundler$ sudo ./bin/mailman-web-django-admin runserver & [1] 3299 (venv) aditya@aditya:~/mailman-server/mailman-bundler$ INFO Generating grammar tables from /usr/lib/python2.7/lib2to3/Grammar.txt INFO Generating grammar tables from /usr/lib/python2.7/lib2to3/PatternGrammar.txt INFO Generating grammar tables from /usr/lib/python2.7/lib2to3/Grammar.txt INFO Generating grammar tables from /usr/lib/python2.7/lib2to3/PatternGrammar.txt Performing system checks... System check identified no issues (0 silenced). March 07, 2016 - 20:43:38 Django version 1.8.11, using settings 'mailman_web.development' Starting development server at http://127.0.0.1:8000/ Quit the server with CONTROL-C. /home/aditya/mailman-server/mailman-bundler/mailman_web/urls.py:7: RemovedInDjango19Warning: Default value of 'RedirectView.permanent' will change from True to False in Django 1.9. Set an explicit value to silence this warning. url(r'^$', RedirectView.as_view(url=reverse_lazy('hyperkitty.views.index.index'))), WARNING /home/aditya/mailman-server/mailman-bundler/mailman_web/urls.py:7: RemovedInDjango19Warning: Default value of 'RedirectView.permanent' will change from True to False in Django 1.9. Set an explicit value to silence this warning. url(r'^$', RedirectView.as_view(url=reverse_lazy('hyperkitty.views.index.index'))), Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.7/wsgiref/handlers.py", line 85, in run self.result = application(self.environ, self.start_response) File "/home/aditya/mailman-server/mailman-bundler/eggs/Django-1.8.11-py2.7.egg/django/contrib/staticfiles/handlers.py", line 63, in __call__ return self.application(environ, start_response) File "/home/aditya/mailman-server/mailman-bundler/eggs/Django-1.8.11-py2.7.egg/django/core/handlers/wsgi.py", line 170, in __call__ self.load_middleware() File "/home/aditya/mailman-server/mailman-bundler/eggs/Django-1.8.11-py2.7.egg/django/core/handlers/base.py", line 50, in load_middleware mw_class = import_string(middleware_path) File "/home/aditya/mailman-server/mailman-bundler/eggs/Django-1.8.11-py2.7.egg/django/utils/module_loading.py", line 26, in import_string module = import_module(module_path) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/importlib/__init__.py", line 37, in import_module __import__(name) ImportError: No module named middleware I tried checking for the solution online, but couldn't find a fix. I reinstalled django twice to ensure that the installation was thorough, and that all the libraries were installed. Has anyone faced this issue? Note - I am currently running django 1.9.4 in both python3 and python2.7, and have installed django 1.8.11 in the 'venv' virtual environment.

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Mailman 3 on lists.mailman3.org
by Mark Sapiro 07 Mar '16

07 Mar '16

I'm starting to look at getting a production mailman-users(a)mailman3.org list set up and running. I haven't gotten too far into it, but I see one issue and have a question. The issue is that there is an MX record for mailman3.org pointing to mail.mailman3.org, but mail.mailman3.org doesn't have an A record; it has a CNAME pointing to mailman.iad1.psf.io which is the canonical name of the server. RFC 2181, sec 10.3 says the target of and MX must have address records, not CNAME. I.e. mail.mailman3.org should not have a CNAME, but rather an A record pointing to 104.239.228.201 or I suppose instead, the MX for mailman3.org could point directly at mailman.iad1.psf.io. Anyway, this is not an immediate concern, but will need to be addressed. For my question, there is a MM 3 installation on the server now done, I think, by Abhilash (@maxking). It seems only partly done. I.e. there's a whole bunch of stuff in /opt/mailman that looks fairly complete, there's some stuff for it in the nginx and postfix configs, there are systemd scripts for starting and stopping mailman, but there's no mailman user or group on the server. This latter may be the result of the PSFs salt management. Anyway, the question is is this usable? should it be upgraded? what else needs to be done (not in detail, just whatever pieces are known to be missing)? -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] CAPTCHA support
by Mark Sapiro 07 Mar '16

07 Mar '16

On 03/05/2016 04:03 AM, Aditya Divekar wrote: > > I was mostly basing this idea on the lines that it is easy to put in a spam > subscription request to the mailing lists now. > Implementing captcha could nip most of these attempts in the bud itself, > and save mailman the extra efforts of sending the confirmation link to the > subscriber. Subscription confirmation has nothing to do with spam subscription attempts. It is to prevent me (a human) from subscribing other people's addresses to lists. Captchas and similar hoops to jump through do not stop my doing that and do not obviate the need for confirmation. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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GSOC 16
by saurabh agrahari 07 Mar '16

07 Mar '16

Hi everyone I am a second year student from IIIT hyderabad. I liked the project GitLab/development tools integration How should I proceed into this project.

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Regarding How to start cntribution to mailman
by Phanindra Kumar Thatavarthi 07 Mar '16

07 Mar '16

Hello everyone, I am Phanindra Kumar ,A student studying in 2nd year pursuing B.Tech CSE from International Institute of Information Technology Hyderabad (IIIT-H),India Frankly speaking my skills in programming : Python(A fair coder in python),C,Web2py,Bash scripting ,Html ,Css ,Javascript and others.I tried to install mailman build and it is working fine. Can anyone guide me as How would I start contributing to mailman community??

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] CAPTCHA support
by Simon Hanna 07 Mar '16

07 Mar '16

On 03/05/2016 11:57 AM, Aditya Divekar wrote: > Hi! > I was looking around the mailman code, and could not find the functionality > for captcha in the mailing lists subscription pages. > I think it could be a good feature to implement in the upcoming versions, > and would like to know if its a good idea? > I also came across the thread - > http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mailman.user/74167 > and read about the previous discussion on it by some members. > Since captcha back then was easier to break, it might not have been a > profitable feature, according to the thread. > But with the new recaptcha, I would like to know if the stand is the same. The message you mentioned said that it might be because of lacking csrf protection. With django all the forms are protected by csrf. About captchas. If they are implemented, they would have to be optional in my opinion as they would require signing up for a token with the captcha provider. Or were you thinking about implementing your own service? I'm pretty sure there are django apps out there that add captcha support. It would be a nice addition if it's optional. If it's not I guess it would need more discussion.

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Getting Introduced with the Community and Looking forward to Contribute
by Abhilash Raj 06 Mar '16

06 Mar '16

Hi Shubham, Shubham Ghiya writes: > Hello all, > > I am Shubham Ghiya (irc: shubham__). A student developer in 3 year pursuing > B.Tech-CSE from International Institute of Information Technology-Hyderabad > (IIIT-H), India. > > My skills include programming languages: Python, Java, GNU C/C++, Html, > Css, Javascript and other languages. I have gone through the mailman3 > documentation and got the build working on my local machine. Can someone > please guide me as to how I should start contributing to the community? Welcome to the community. You can start off by looking at the issues in Gitlab and see if anything interests you. After that try solving that and you can ask for help here or on IRC. > It would be highly appreciable if someone can help me move forward to > contribute to software starting off with some easy tasks and then moving > levels higher. -- thanks, Abhilash Raj

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Getting Introduced with the Community and Looking forward to Contribute
by Shubham Ghiya 06 Mar '16

06 Mar '16

Hello all, I am Shubham Ghiya (irc: shubham__). A student developer in 3 year pursuing B.Tech-CSE from International Institute of Information Technology-Hyderabad (IIIT-H), India. My skills include programming languages: Python, Java, GNU C/C++, Html, Css, Javascript and other languages. I have gone through the mailman3 documentation and got the build working on my local machine. Can someone please guide me as to how I should start contributing to the community? It would be highly appreciable if someone can help me move forward to contribute to software starting off with some easy tasks and then moving levels higher. Thanks Shubham Ghiya +91 8106426125

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