Mailman 3 April 2019 - Mailman-Developers

before next release: disable backscatter in default installation
by Jo Rhett Nov. 8, 2022

Nov. 8, 2022

Hi. There's a fairly simple problem here that needs to be addressed. And it's mostly a documentation/install problem. I'm hoping we can get this resolved before the next release. PROBLEM: Mailman comes out of the box ready to backscatter spam people. Yes, it's easy enough to fix. But because it comes stock this way, and is documented to install this way, most people install it to do this. Those of us who work in abuse departments are tired of hearing "well that's how Mailman … [View More]

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Re: How strict are the dependencies on the django-compressor related backends?
by Christian Ehrhardt June 11, 2019

June 11, 2019

On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 10:19 AM Jonas Smedegaard <dr(a)jones.dk> wrote: > > Quoting Christian Ehrhardt (2019-03-15 06:39:08) > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 12:08 AM Abhilash Raj <maxking(a)asynchronous.in> wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019, at 1:42 PM, Jonas Meurer wrote: > > > Christian Ehrhardt: > > > > I was evaluating the Dependencies of mailman3 in Ubuntu and I was > > > > wondering if I could cut them down a bit. One thing … [View More]that got my > > > > attention is the dependency from mailman3-web [1] to nodejs for > > > > less [2] and ruby-sass [3]. > > > > > > > > I was wondering if we could by default not install > > > > node-less/ruby-sass and what exactly that would imply. > > less is a reinvention of sass: It is often adaptable to sass with a > simple patch. > > Original sass processor was ruby-sass, but nowadays a better processor > is sassc. Or if you want to integrated processing with Python then > python3-libsass which uses same core library for its processing. > > I have not looked closely on mailman3, but I highly doubt there is a > real need for dynamic processing of less/sass during runtime. Yeah I doubt that as well. In the meantime I also found [1] which seems to have come to the same conclusion for the majority of default setups. For upstream to disable it by default it was mentioned that there is a need for a customize kit which seems fine [1]. There is a further argument to disable the live compressors, at least as I read COMPRESS_OFFLINE that seems helpful for production setups anyway to speed up and safe CPU load. So while upstream waits until a "customize kit" exists to switch defaults, as a downstream like Debian/Ubuntu I wonder if we already could: - drop sass/less compilers to a suggest - disable the live compression in the default config that we ship - keep the config commented-out to make it easy for admins that want to enable it later - pre-compress at build time and enable compress_offline for speed - maybe call `django_admin compress` [3][4] or similar at build time? - having sass/less as build dependencies seems much safer than pulling it in at runtime @Jonas M.: what do you think about [2] (again maybe after Buster)? Sorry to not know more of this yet, but I hope suggesting what I think might work helps to get us the right way. [1]: https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/thread/… [2]: https://salsa.debian.org/paelzer-guest/mailman-suite/commits/make-sass-less… [3]: https://django-compressor.readthedocs.io/en/latest/usage/#offline-compressi… [4]: https://gitlab.com/mailman/django-mailman3/issues/17#note_81807465 > - Jonas > > -- > * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt > * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ > > [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEn+Ppw2aRpp/1PMaELHwxRsGgASEFAlyLbfwACgkQLHwxRsGg > ASHlqw//Vkkke6aulFYeLkq7vQOIt08j+DMMDBpJ/vXapwtQJ2WbWEYsHbbFv75v > k80SILudsOyGMwQ0HKRGqDmhJw2Voi9mWoV2fBQeCQn5w/G9N2Ddw8hAMrzGsLxO > C2FOV8Db0irJ6FS6AO0YQpAselKnnX387AvyWBCpVcWWuydf46pMkPpYajVJTvZg > UZxtBh1epmv/VdQlw2OeLrV+bZJWfjULjr1qFPYdqFnEUnOA2cC44RMagxSV7kNh > JmCc7DvL/VjX/dkPHJCW/VvRrvfxzOR4bimVr7BeuvcjNljlUnKhRwP+PQZt80gp > CbOoVCeEOFJuHwqTlvasUpxo/aSZZPFeF8aQBtdyzefEx9QjjGwx8bYQFn+Zo0CX > TVsB7qWyCwMZIR0DP5+A8ityXQb+FwOTXjySMzO+Z/rA9+h1PHZrK+WJMB0O9z5r > hWYDk3jGSJIkwL+AemE06gUPuSaXZWhzoduI2Mbzs8a20qhrW08Ij338RVGalyhC > QHJT4JoI3bXylaK+IEpH9xxUEW0i8gOge32dBFiqg9/dGFm06Tf3z8dUuBFyXgG3 > BsNJaO6Cn3ghfNS/OfNN04nPS+luPqPQ1r9yZMztrIqwv8oOWyVj1YQpKW1vRN/v > BK/2IpBA+6O3OE2X4RCW8pouwPmsSgMmXpIsuFE61dox/8tOPmE= > =490O > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Christian Ehrhardt Software Engineer, Ubuntu Server Canonical Ltd [View Less]

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Interested in Working on the Mailman Documentation for GSOD
by Ariessa N May 3, 2019

May 3, 2019

Hello everyone, I'm Ariessa Norramli, a 2nd year student in Software Engineering and freelance writer. Before I started college, I did a number of freelancing jobs on Upwork. I've written for diverse topics such as finance, technology, pop culture, weddings, and cryptocurrency. I'm interested in working on the Mailman documentation for GSOD because I love writing and programming. I taught myself coding at the age of 15. My favourite programming language is JavaScript because of ES6's short … [View More]

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Postorius now uses pytest for testing
by Abhilash Raj April 26, 2019

April 26, 2019

Hello All, Postorius, as you all know, is the Web UI for Mailman 3 and is based on Django Web Framework. For some time now, we have been using VCRPy, a HTTP Stubbing library to record test interactions with Mailman Core' API so that the code can be tested in CI environments with the need to have Core. However, in the past, we have observed that it creates more problems than it solves. First, we test against the state of Mailman Core in past, since the interactions are recorded once and … [View More]

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Unique idea presentation
by kurian thomas (kk) April 10, 2019

April 10, 2019

Respected sir/madam, I would like to propose (if not already there) an idea/feature regarding your mailing web app as a part of GSoC. Since it runs on python I would like to integrate NLP text summarisation using the nltk library. Sometimes when people are on the go they wouldn't want to read the whole email and maybe just summarise the relevant parts. This feature allows them to do that with a click of a button and see the result as a pop up or modal. I hope my idea has been conveyed … [View More]

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Gsoc proposal review "Support for multiple wsgi servers" .
by saumitra_Uchiha April 7, 2019

April 7, 2019

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VP7i6ISadRoGnbH_lq24LHSgIQ8PrFuUY5Kahx7… @maxking please review my application. Stephen reviewed it and told that it isn't suitable enough, but it was on the lsting of mailman proposed projects....comments?

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Please review my Gsoc proposal regarding "Support for multiple wsgi servers "
by saumitra_Uchiha April 7, 2019

April 7, 2019

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VP7i6ISadRoGnbH_lq24LHSgIQ8PrFuUY5Kahx7… Also @maxking Stephen reviewed my proposal and stated that it ws more on the config part than coding . This was one proposed by you, please share your thoughts on the same.

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Questions on GSoC
by kurian thomas (kk) April 7, 2019

April 7, 2019

Respected sir/madam, I am a beginner to GSoC and I want to contribute to your amazing organisation. I have read all the docs surrounding how to setup the development environment and have a fair idea on what to do. I had a few questions I wanted to ask 1)If I have a unique idea to implement do I send it to a specific email address or add it as my proposal for GSoC? 2)In order to work on one sub project is is necessary to install the whole thing? If not how may I go about working on just the … [View More]

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Regarding aquaintance with community and source code
by Satbir Singh Ghai April 6, 2019

April 6, 2019

Hello, I am Satbir Singh, a sophomore pursuing B.Tech in Information and Communication Technology at DA-IICT. I am a full stack web developer proficient in Django Framework. I want to contribute to Mailman. I am aiming for GSoC 2019. I have previously contributed to open source organizations and really excited to contribute in this project. I am new to this organization please help me to get started! Thanking you Satbir Singh

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GSoC full proposal regarding "Add support for bounce processing in Core"
by Aaryan Bhagat April 3, 2019

April 3, 2019

First of all, I apologize for not being active in the Gitlab codebase and only on the mailing-lists. This is because my semester is ending and had a lot of tests, moreover I was focusing only on my proposal and its related work. Fornutaley, that is not a problem anymore. I do not have any other commitments this summer and my timeline in the proposal explains it all. Here is the full proposal. I have given commenting rights https://docs.google.com/document/d/… [View More]

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