Mailman 3 May 2012 - Mailman-Developers

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Error: Couldn't install: storm 0.19
by David 02 May '12

02 May '12

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:49 PM, David <dave(a)fiteyes.com> wrote: > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:41 PM, David <dave(a)fiteyes.com> wrote: > >> Anyone have any ideas on this error? It seems I'm missing Python.h. >> >> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04. >> > Is this the right place for a suggestion on minor documentation changes? Building Mailman 3 > ================== > > Mailman 3 is now based on the `zc.buildout`_ infrastructure, which greatly > simplifies building and testing Mailman. > > You do not need anything other than Python ... > I started with a clean install of Ubuntu 12.04 on a new Linode. I actually needed build-essential and python-dev packages in addition to the python package that came with the default Ubuntu install on Linode. # apt-get install build-essential python-dev With those packages, I was able to build and it passed all tests: Total: 383 tests, 0 failures, 0 errors in 40.273 seconds.

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Error: Couldn't install: storm 0.19
by David 02 May '12

02 May '12

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:41 PM, David <dave(a)fiteyes.com> wrote: > Anyone have any ideas on this error? It seems I'm missing Python.h. > > I'm running Ubuntu 12.04. > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:41 PM, David <dave(a)fiteyes.com> wrote: > Anyone have any ideas on this error? > > I'm running Ubuntu 12.04. > Oh, I see. It's very common when you search on the right terms. Solution: sudo apt-get install python-dev It's building now.

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Error: Couldn't install: storm 0.19
by David 02 May '12

02 May '12

Anyone have any ideas on this error? It seems I'm missing Python.h. I'm running Ubuntu 12.04. Here's the output of my commands (after running a second time); root@localhost:/opt/mailman-3.0.0b1# python bootstrap.py Downloading http://pypi.python.org/packages/2.7/s/setuptools/setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg root@localhost:/opt/mailman-3.0.0b1# bin/buildout Develop: '/opt/mailman-3.0.0b1/.' warning: no files found matching '*.rc' warning: no files found matching '*' under directory '.buildout' warning: no files found matching '*' under directory 'contrib' warning: no previously-included files matching '*.egg-info' found anywhere in distribution no previously-included directories found matching 'src/attic' no previously-included directories found matching 'src/web' no previously-included directories found matching 'parts' Installing interpreter. Getting distribution for 'storm'. storm/cextensions.c:23:20: fatal error: Python.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated. error: Setup script exited with error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1 An error occurred when trying to install storm 0.19. Look above this message for any errors that were output by easy_install. While: Installing interpreter. Getting distribution for 'storm'. Error: Couldn't install: storm 0.19 root@localhost:/opt/mailman-3.0.0b1# which gcc /usr/bin/gcc root@localhost:/opt/mailman-3.0.0b1# which python /usr/bin/python root@localhost:/opt/mailman-3.0.0b1# /usr/bin/python --version Python 2.7.3

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[GSoC 2012] Metrics
by George Chatzisofroniou 02 May '12

02 May '12

Hello, I'm sending a report of my progress for the last two weeks (containing an outline of my project). The following report is also posted in my blog [1]. -- The last two weeks i’m into learning the Django web framework in more detail. I’m also thinking to rearrange the GSoC schedule a bit. I’ll start writing code on the bonding period, so i can have more time during my university’s exams (starting on half of June). Finally, i came up with an outline of my project. Here it is: Settings The Django app should handle some configuration parameters, like: - Maximum number of the subscribers of a mailing list the user wants to be shown in the charts - A multi-state variable (None, abbreviated, full) for masking email addresses at the results (we don’t want the emails to be spammed) Apart from these, some parameters to establish a connection to the message store (such as host or port) will be added. Models In order to store statistical data, the app will use some Django models: - Author – This model will store specific information for each subscriber such as total posts, total threads started, date of last message, subscription date, average of posts sent per day - MailingList – General information about the mailing list will be stored here such as total posts, total threads and two foreign keys pointing the month and year models - Month – This model will store total posts and threads for each month - Year – Similar to month model, this one will store total posts and threads for each year Views To display the metrics some views will be used: - A generic view for the mailing list and the top subscribers - A more detailed page about the participation of a specific subscriber The graphs will be generated using the PyChart library. (Custom tags are the way that the app will embed the graphs) Interface to the MM core The app needs to interact with the Mailman core. I think the best idea is to implement a message bus that will send a notification every time a message is sent (the same way an archiver works). Based on this notification -which will carry the information about the sent message- the app will be ready to update the counts. Although, in some cases (eg the app is installed after an existing archive or there was an unexpected crash), the message bus should deliver (triggered by a button) more than one notifications (for the whole archive) to the app in order to initialize/recover the metrics. In those cases, the models will be initialized and the generation of the metrics will start over. -- Any comments are highly appreciated. [1]: http://sophron.latthi.com/gsoc-mailman/?p=12 -- George Chatzisofroniou sophron.latthi.com

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Password reminders
by Mark Sapiro 01 May '12

01 May '12

Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: >Do you folks ever get complaints about password reminders sending passwords in the clear? Yes. >Is there an open bug about that? See, e.g., <https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/265179>. >Once a month I get someone nagging at me that this isn't a secure thing, possibly because it's a security-related mailing list (i.e., picky audience). My only choice in the current version is to turn off the reminders altogether. Perhaps it would be possible to add a switch that just turns off the password part? How useful would the rest of it be without the password? You can edit the template for the reminder per <http://wiki.list.org/x/jYA9>. Its name is cronpass.txt. Besure to see the note in the FAQ about list and domain specific templates not working for this template. However, the actual entries with the passwords are not built from the template so you'd have to also edit the code in cron/mailpasswds. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Password reminders
by Murray S. Kucherawy 01 May '12

01 May '12

Do you folks ever get complaints about password reminders sending passwords in the clear? Is there an open bug about that? Once a month I get someone nagging at me that this isn't a secure thing, possibly because it's a security-related mailing list (i.e., picky audience). My only choice in the current version is to turn off the reminders altogether. Perhaps it would be possible to add a switch that just turns off the password part? -MSK

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