Mailman 3 June 2001 - Mailman-Developers

filtering extensions?
by David A. Forsyth 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

Hiya all I've just joined in order to make a suggestion for futer development of mailman. Let me fill you in a bit... I'm a programmer working in Delphi, and a network admin (Novell), AND I have a hobby.... In the interests of the hobby (railways) I run a list using mailman on a machine administered by someone else (a Unix guru of note). My immediate problem is that multipart MIME encoded messages on the list I run pose a huge virus infection threat to all the members (apart form being just downright annoying to those who use mailers that don't interpret them). I'm a member of some Yahoo groups and I see that their list software trims off 'non text portions' of the messages. In other words, it only sends on the plain text and dumps all the rich text, text/html, ms-tnef etc bits of junk that arrive in multipart MIME format. So, I'm wondering if such filtering can be done by mailman so that list members need not be troubled to reset the default encoding schemes on their various flavours of PC, and yet be safe from receiving virus's via the list. (note my list does not accept images either, so filtering out ALL attachments would not bother *me* in this application, yetis a consideration for other lists) For now, I've done a fiddle in the list settings by putting a check for multipart MIME in the headers so I get to veto them as moderator. Unfortunatly, the message sent back to offenders is a bit misleading in that it says 'message contained a suspicous header' no matter what rule triggered it. A possible extension to mailman is to allow pattern specific messages and actions at this point. thanks -- Living in South Africa Flying power Kites Chasing 3'6" gauge trains http://terrapin.ru.ac.za/satrain

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Multi-lingual, translations, templates, etc.
by Joaquim Homrighausen 05 Jun '01

05 Jun '01

Where is a good place to start for multi-lingual resources for Mailman? If I find the time, etc. how do I best contribute with translations of templates, language data, etc? Regards, Joaquim :: Who dares wins ::

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Missin )!
by Ousmane Wilane 04 Jun '01

04 Jun '01

From mailman Sat Jun 2 17:00:00 2001 [snip] File "/home/mailman/cron/checkdbs", line 57 admin = mlist.GetAdminEmail() ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax missing ")" at line 55 in cron/checkdbs subject = _('%d %s moderator request(s) waiting' % ( count, mlist.real_name) Barry and i18n it's realy love at first sight :) Cheers! -- -- Ousmane Wilane -- "The best laid plans sometimes go awry..."

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-S pb!
by Ousmane Wilane 03 Jun '01

03 Jun '01

Subject: Cron <mailman@NS> /usr/bin/python -S [snip] Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 25, in ? from Mailman import MailList File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 34, in ? from mimelib.address import getaddresses ImportError: No module named mimelib.address mimelib is under site-packages! Why -S? Cheers! -- -- Ousmane Wilane -- "The best laid plans sometimes go awry..."

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Cleaning up digests
by Bradford Shaw 03 Jun '01

03 Jun '01

Hello, I need to modify the way that digests are being sent out. Can you tell me where I can make the following changes? 1. Remove all headers, except the From, Date and Subject from the individual messages in the digest 2. Create a separator line between messages in the digest 3. Strip out message footers from the messages in the digest I would also like to know how to not have both the plain text and mime print to the same message in the archives. Many thanks. Best wishes, Bradford "Biff" Shaw List Administrator PerilPoint Communications Inc. http://www.perilpoint.com

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] why no user disable of the monthly reminder?
by J C Lawrence 03 Jun '01

03 Jun '01

On Sun, 3 Jun 2001 10:27:10 -0400 Jay R Ashworth <jra(a)baylink.com> wrote: > I'm trying to get Mailman to behave itself as a *broadcast* list > manager (rather than for discussion), and I need to throttle the > *actual mail* that way (x thousand per day). > Where might be the best place to put something like that? While it gets fiddly, its not too difiicult to do this at the MTA level with a sufficiently configurable MTA (ie Exim). Essentially, just have an Exim filter that rewrites all broacast mail actually being addressed to a local user, spool it off locally, and then have a cronjob which sucks N thousand out per day from the top of the mbox and re-slaps them into the MTA with a custom header added (which causes them to skip the prior filter). You could also use a double ganged MTA approach (second MTA running on a high port -- I used to tdo this with SMail/UUCP) but without thinking about it ore than I want to now, I'm not sure that this would be easier. -- J C Lawrence claw(a)kanga.nu ---------(*) http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ The pressure to survive and rhetoric may make strange bedfellows

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] why no user disable of the monthly reminder?
by J C Lawrence 03 Jun '01

03 Jun '01

On Sun, 3 Jun 2001 07:22:36 -0700 Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui(a)plaidworks.com> wrote: > Oh, and one more thing (thanks for reminding me). the password > reminders aren't really hooked into the bounce-processed setup, > since they get sent back to a list admin address, and not > necessarily one the user is actually subscribed to. We're losing a > major opportunity to clean up the mail lists here, especially when > it comes to non-standard mailers and forwarded addresses. These > really ought to be sent from a special address with a special > envelope, so returns can be processed for site-wide removal (IMHO, > if the password reminder bounces for any reason, that qualifies as > removal. I'm going to have to pull the data out of bounce files > monday and manually hack something up... Agreed, and I'll add that the password reminders really need to be VERPed. Of course this will have to be optional for those MTAs which are not VERP happy, but the password reminders are just too cherry an opportunity to overlook for removing addresses which you *CAN'T* deduce from bounce message processing (mail forwards etc). -- J C Lawrence claw(a)kanga.nu ---------(*) http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ The pressure to survive and rhetoric may make strange bedfellows

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] why no user disable of the monthly reminder?
by J C Lawrence 03 Jun '01

03 Jun '01

On Sat, 02 Jun 2001 17:50:20 -0700 Dan Mick <dmick(a)utopia.West.Sun.COM> wrote: > You would go to the trouble of setting up a filter for a *monthly* > message? When I was only on a couple Mailman-run lists I didn't bother. Now I get twenty or password reminder messages a month. -- J C Lawrence claw(a)kanga.nu ---------(*) http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ The pressure to survive and rhetoric may make strange bedfellows

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pyethon required
by INBI-MATRIX 02 Jun '01

02 Jun '01

To all, Anyone interested in setting up mailman on our Linux server so we can run a discussion forum for our members? thanks, Tim Pye INBI-MATRIX PO Box 3003 TAMARAMA NSW 2026 Australia timpye(a)inbiworld.com Tel/Fax 61-2-9365 3455 www.inbiworld.com

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minor qrunner bug.
by Chuq Von Rospach 02 Jun '01

02 Jun '01

Just noticed a minor bug in qrunner. when qrunner starts up, it opens the log files, and leaves them open. this is fine -- except when the logs get rolled and restarted. When you move the logs off and gzip them for storage, qrunner continues writing to the (now unlinked) old files, not the new, zeroed ones. So all of the qrunner stat and errror and whatever data from the time you roll the logs until that instance of qrunner exits is gone (which, if you've modified qrunner lifetime values, can become significant on a busy system) Since mailman isn't oding much log processing, not a big deal. but for sites that are (for instance) charging for list usage, or sites that have implemented reporting, there are potential holes in the data, and if they're busy so they have extended qrunner times, significant holes. while open/write/close is expensive, given all of the other stuff qrunner's doing and the relative lack of logging, I don't think it's significant. Alternatively, it can notice the files have been moved/zeroed, or perhaps accept a HUP like syslog... -- Chuq Von Rospach, Internet Gnome <http://www.chuqui.com> [<chuqui(a)plaidworks.com> = <me(a)chuqui.com> = <chuq(a)apple.com>] Yes, yes, I've finally finished my home page. Lucky you. I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message...

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