Mailman 3 April 2021 - Edu-sig

Part-time opportunities for Python instructors
by Merav Yuravlivker May 7, 2024

May 7, 2024

Hi there, My name is Merav Yuravlivker, and I'm the CEO of Data Society - we deliver data science academies to Fortune 500 companies, government agencies, and other international organizations. We're currently looking for part-time Python instructors and TAs, and my friend Jackie Kazil recommended I reach out to you and your list serv. All of these opportunities can be available for people who are employed full-time, professors, or grad students. We pay well and provide all the materials for … [View More]

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a short essay about programming
by kirby urner Dec. 8, 2022

Dec. 8, 2022

A common "error" (not too serious) that I see in beginning Python (and no doubt other languages, but Python is the one I'm teaching), is having a while condition that appears to put a lid on things, but then the flow all leaks away through break statements, such that the "front door" condition is never revisited. while guess != secret: guess = int(input("Guess?: ") if guess == secret: print("You guessed it!") break else: print("Nope, try again...") What's … [View More]messed up about the above code is you never really go back to the top in the case where you'd get to leave. Rather, you exit by the back door, through break. So in that case, wouldn't have been simpler and more elegant, even more "correct" (dare I say it) to have gone: while True: # no ifs ands or buts guess = int(input("Guess?: ") if guess == secret: print("You guessed it!") break else: print("Nope, try again...") I see lots of heads nodding, and that could be the end of the matter, but then a next question arises: wouldn't this also be a more correct solution?: while guess != secret: guess = int(input("Guess?: ") if guess == secret: print("You guessed it!") continue # instead of break else: print("Nope, try again...") We're back to having a variable while condition, not a boolean constant, but this time we actually exit by means of it, thanks to continue or... while guess != secret: guess = int(input("Guess?: ") if guess == secret: print("You guessed it!") else: print("Nope, try again...") ... thanks to no continue. This last one is getting a thumbs up, but then I'd pause here and say "continue" can be easier on the eyes. It's unambiguous where it takes you, in contrast to having to scan on down the gauntlet, looking for possibly other open doors. "What happens next" should not require scanning ahead too far. Help us not to get lost. Be a civic-minded coder. I'm thinking of a programming style that advises two things: (a) if you use a while condition that's variable, that's expected to change, then your goal should be to always exit because of that, i.e. that should be your only exit point. Even if some other criterion suggests exiting, you have the option to flip that "lid" at the top, to crack that front door, and bounce the ball out. (b) which is why 'continue' is your friend. You are showing the user where your 'break' statements are, except you don't use "break" statements, as you've given a non-constant condition, and your aim is to make that your ONLY exit point. In short: never use break to exit a while loop unless your condition is while True. Instead, always flip the condition and exit through the font door. However, as soon as I make that rule I can think of good reasons to break it. The other programmers in the room are shaking their heads. Won't we lose information, needed elsewhere in the program, if we "artificially" force a True condition to False. Aren't we, in effect, lying? That concern could be addressed. Keep all the info true, just treat the "lid condition" (it "keeps a lid on it") as a flag. Go ahead and remember the user's guess. allowed = 5 tries = 1 exit = False while not exit: # no other way out guess = int(input("Guess?: ") if guess == secret: print("You guessed it!") exit = True # instead of break continue print("Nope, try again...") tries += 1 if tries == allowed: print("You've maxed out") exit = True continue I think we all understand the main issue: writing reader-friendly code, and rules for doing so. There's something comforting about approaching a while loop and knowing its not a leaky sieve, riddled with back doors, maybe even an exit( ) time bomb. But in the recursion world we want a minimum of two exits usually: when another round is called for versus when we've "hit bottom". Can we have it both ways? Conclusions: Lets not be too hasty with rules of thumb and: Lets keep the reader in mind when writing code. Just because the interpreter knows to compute the flow unambiguously, doesn't mean all ways of writing it are equally reader-friendly. What may seem a gratuitous gesture, an unnecessary flourish, may actually promote reader comprehension of your code, and that should be a goal as much as satisfying the interpreter. Kirby [View Less]

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MineCraft with Python
by Jurgis Pralgauskis Dec. 4, 2022

Dec. 4, 2022

Hi, intro: many kids like MineCraft :) probably you know/heared of MineCraft Pi https://www.raspberrypi.org/learning/getting-started-with-minecraft-pi/ But there seems to be Py for real MC http://coderdojotc.readthedocs.io/projects/python-minecraft/en/latest/ http://www.instructables.com/id/Python-coding-for-Minecraft/ PS.: a nice article (from js4MC world) https://github.com/walterhiggins/ScriptCraft/blob/master/docs/YoungPersonsG… -- Jurgis Pralgauskis tel: 8-616 77613; Don't worry, … [View More]

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What countries have Python in official high school curriculum?
by Jurgis Pralgauskis Jan. 4, 2022

Jan. 4, 2022

Hi again :) we want to promote Python in my small country (Lithuania), In high-schools we officially have Pascal (for 30years) and C++ (for 10years) now -- as it is accepted in final IT/programming exam (and olymiads). I know that it is not common to have programming exam, but still if you know some (esp, big) countries commonly using it while teaching - please let know :) Thanks -- Jurgis Pralgauskis tel: 8-616 77613; Don't worry, be happy and make things better ;) https://galvosukykla.wordpress.com/

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Re: IDE for teaching?
by calcpage＠aol.com April 8, 2021

April 8, 2021

Jupyter notebooks are great. I like to use ide.cs50.io or sagecell.sagemath.org. Be well, Al On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 Juliano <julianofischer(a)gmail.com> wrote: I really believe Jupyter Notebook is amazing for teaching. Juliano Fischer Naves Em qua., 7 de abr. de 2021 às 12:44, A. Jorge Garcia via Edu-sig <edu-sig(a)python.org> escreveu: Hi everyone, I've used IDLE and VIDLE but pico or nano is really all you need! Be well, A. Jorge Garcia Applied Math & CS Nassau … [View More]

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Re: IDE for teaching?
by calcpage＠aol.com April 8, 2021

April 8, 2021

Sandbox.cs50.io is amazing to! Stay healthy, Al On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 Juliano <julianofischer(a)gmail.com> wrote: I really believe Jupyter Notebook is amazing for teaching. Juliano Fischer Naves Em qua., 7 de abr. de 2021 às 12:44, A. Jorge Garcia via Edu-sig <edu-sig(a)python.org> escreveu: Hi everyone, I've used IDLE and VIDLE but pico or nano is really all you need! Be well, A. Jorge Garcia Applied Math & CS Nassau Community College http://shadowfaxrant.blogspot.… [View More]

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Re: IDE for teaching?
by calcpage＠aol.com April 8, 2021

April 8, 2021

Hi everyone, I've used IDLE and VIDLE but pico or nano is really all you need! Be well, A. Jorge Garcia Applied Math & CS Nassau Community College http://shadowfaxrant.blogspot.com On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 Wickes, Elizabeth <wickes1(a)illinois.edu> wrote: #yiv1554167138 #yiv1554167138 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv1554167138 #yiv1554167138 p.yiv1554167138MsoNormal, #yiv1554167138 li.yiv1554167138MsoNormal, #yiv1554167138 div.yiv1554167138MsoNormal {… [View More]

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IDE for teaching?
by Jurgis Pralgauskis April 8, 2021

April 8, 2021

Hi, what IDE do you use for 10-12 graders or usiversity 101 courses? my ideas: - Thonny - VsCode - PyCharm -- Jurgis Pralgauskis tel: 8-616 77613; Don't worry, be happy and make things better ;) https://galvosukykla.wordpress.com/

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