Mailman 3 November 2003 - Mailman-Developers

Re: [Mailman-Developers] RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman & CPanel?
by Barry Warsaw 05 Nov '03

05 Nov '03

On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 12:05, Martin(a)Cleaver.org wrote: > I am particularly concerned about > http://forums.cpanel.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15928 but from the > mailman-users(a)python.org list there are definitely a whole host of issues > that the mailman-developers would address if we had the correct > communication in place. I had some contact from the CPanel folks a while back, and I've just added a FAQwizard entry with the contact information they provided: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=all#6.11 Sounds like you've already contacted them at their forums. I can't read that thread because it requires a login and I don't have the time or desire to register with their site. As always I'm willing to work with the CPanel folks if they can identify bugs in Mailman, but the initiative has to come from there side. Without that, I'd have no idea where to even start. -Barry

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RE: [Mailman-Developers] More on Mysql MemberAdaptor?
by Yuan, Cain 05 Nov '03

05 Nov '03

Hi Kev, I had a look at the patch and have some questions here: why you establish a connection to MySQL and then close it in each function? AFAIK this will put much presure on MySQL if there are some people to subscribe/unscribe from the list. Why not just establish a ststic link to MySQL and then use it every time you need to access the DB? Cain -----Original Message----- From: mailman-developers-bounces+cain.yuan=intel.com(a)python.org [mailto:mailman-developers-bounces+cain.yuan=intel.com@python.org]On Behalf Of Kyrian (List) Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 2:04 AM To: mailman-developers(a)python.org Subject: [Mailman-Developers] More on Mysql MemberAdaptor? Further to my previous message, I've now got it reading config from mm_cfg.py, verifying the connectivity to the mysql database on the __init__ call, rather than throwing up(numerous) errors later on, updated the README to reflect relevant changes, and just generally cleaned things up a bit. That's RCS revision 1.13. The only major problem I have is the return types for {get,set}DeliveryStatus. I can't work out how I'm suppose to return a tuple of values, and what they should be. If someone could assist I'd be grateful :-) K. Begin forwarded message: Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:27:45 +0000 From: Kyrian (List) <kyrian-list(a)ore.org> To: mailman-developers(a)python.org Subject: Mysql MemberAdaptor? Hi All, I'm presuming this is the appropriate list to post this to... If anyone cares, I've written a Mysql MemberAdaptor based on the OldStyleMemberships.py module, which seems to work ok. I've not done much large scale testing as yet, though. I've put it up at http://kyrian.ore.org/MailmanMysql/ Although I could use some pointers on the following: - How to incorporate exception handling in python to trap DB errors, and stop Mailman choking on them. - How to incorporate some better configuration (you currently would have to edit the module file directly to specify the database parameters) - How to properly incorporate it into mailman (if nobody minds that ;), as it currently seems to require modifying MemberAdaptor.py directly to activate it. - Whether I've actually done it even half way right? Either way, if anyone has anything to say about it, please go easy, I kinda needed this thing, and delved into Python for the first time to do so. Oh, and I know the MySQL data structure I'm using is pretty atrocious, as it was a best-guess, though I can always clean it up later... I do hope I've not just spent several days reinventing the wheel here, though... ;*) Yours, Kev. -- Kev Green, aka Kyrian. "Be excellent to each other" -- Bill & Ted. Email: kyrian@ore.org Web: http://kyrian.ore.org/ ISP/Perl/PHP/Linux/Security Contractor, via http://www.orenet.co.uk/-- Kev Green, aka Kyrian. "Be excellent to each other" -- Bill & Ted. Email: kyrian@ore.org Web: http://kyrian.ore.org/ ISP/Perl/PHP/Linux/Security Contractor, via http://www.orenet.co.uk/ _______________________________________________ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers

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Mysql MemberAdaptor?
by Kyrian 04 Nov '03

04 Nov '03

Hi All, I'm presuming this is the appropriate list to post this to... If anyone cares, I've written a Mysql MemberAdaptor based on the OldStyleMemberships.py module, which seems to work ok. I've not done much large scale testing as yet, though. I've put it up at http://kyrian.ore.org/MailmanMysql/ Although I could use some pointers on the following: - How to incorporate exception handling in python to trap DB errors, and stop Mailman choking on them. - How to incorporate some better configuration (you currently would have to edit the module file directly to specify the database parameters) - How to properly incorporate it into mailman (if nobody minds that ;), as it currently seems to require modifying MemberAdaptor.py directly to activate it. - Whether I've actually done it even half way right? Either way, if anyone has anything to say about it, please go easy, I kinda needed this thing, and delved into Python for the first time to do so. Oh, and I know the MySQL data structure I'm using is pretty atrocious, as it was a best-guess, though I can always clean it up later... I do hope I've not just spent several days reinventing the wheel here, though... ;*) Yours, Kev. -- Kev Green, aka Kyrian. "Be excellent to each other" -- Bill & Ted. Email: kyrian@ore.org Web: http://kyrian.ore.org/ ISP/Perl/PHP/Linux/Security Contractor, via http://www.orenet.co.uk/

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman & CPanel?
by Brad Knowles 04 Nov '03

04 Nov '03

At 12:05 PM -0400 2003/10/21, <Martin(a)Cleaver.org> wrote: > Can we get a mailing list set up to address and escalate mailman <-> cpanel > issues? Get someone from CPanel to actually care about the problems and contact the appropriate people over here, and I'm sure that could easily be done. But first, someone over there has to actually care. -- Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles(a)skynet.be> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)>: a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI++++$ P+>++ L+ !E-(---) W+++(--) N+ !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP>+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) tv+(+++) b+(++++) DI+(++++) D+(++) G+(++++) e++>++++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++)

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Newlist Automation scripts
by Kory Wheatley 04 Nov '03

04 Nov '03

I left out some details from my last message about creating a list automatically from a file with no manual process involved. I'm running Mailman 2..1.2 on RED HAT 9 using postfix. I've setup postfix to automatically add the new mailing lists attributes to be configured in the alias file with the instruction provided in the install of mailman 2.0, so that portion is already accomplished for automation. I just need the rest automated. -- Kory Wheatley Academic Computing Analyst Sr. Phone 282-3874 ######################################### Everything must point to him.

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Newlist Automation script
by Kory Wheatley 03 Nov '03

03 Nov '03

Question, has anyone developed an automation script that would create a new mailing list and subscribe users to it by reading a file. I need to develop a create that does the above process, where a mailing list and the owner is created by just reading the information provided in a file, (along with the users that need to be subscribed to the new list). This process would continually run in cron. I was planning on writing something, but I didn't know if someone else already have sometime that would save me some time. -- Kory Wheatley Academic Computing Analyst Sr. Phone 282-3874 ######################################### Everything must point to him.

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Automatic delivery off/on for vacation?
by jp_mailman＠gcfl.net 03 Nov '03

03 Nov '03

Is there any plans to have a way for subscribers to automatically turn off, and then on, the delivery of a mailing list (for example when going on vacation)? Probably require parsing a start and stop date, or a start date and number of days to hold email. Thanx. -- Give your child mental blocks for Christmas. www.GCFL.net (The Good, Clean Funnies List): Good, clean funnies five times a week, no ads, for f_r_e_e!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe_policy problem? (fixed, includes a patch)
by Pasi Sjoholm 03 Nov '03

03 Nov '03

Hello again, anyone didn't reply to me so I fixed this by myself, here is the patch: --- Mailman/Cgi/options.py~ Thu Oct 30 12:02:41 2003 +++ Mailman/Cgi/options.py Thu Oct 30 11:44:55 2003 @@ -156,9 +156,22 @@ def main(): if cgidata.has_key('login-unsub'): # Because they can't supply a password for unsubscribing, we'll need # to do the confirmation dance. + if mlist.isMember(user): - mlist.ConfirmUnsubscription(user, userlang) - doc.addError(_('The confirmation email has been sent.'), tag='') + # If we're doing admin-approved unsubs, don't worry about the password + if mlist.unsubscribe_policy: + try: + mlist.Lock() + try: + mlist.DeleteMember(user, 'via the listinfo page', userack=1) + except Errors.MMNeedApproval: + doc.addError(_('Your unsubscription request has been forwarded to the list administrator for approval.'), tag='') + mlist.Save() + finally: + mlist.Unlock() + else: + mlist.ConfirmUnsubscription(user, userlang) + doc.addError(_('The confirmation email has been sent.'), tag='') else: # Not a member if mlist.private_roster == 0: On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Pasi Sjoholm wrote: > This is possible when user is not logged in but when logged there will be > a request to unsubscribe user "x" for list admin. So.. it's a bug =) I > also tested it on 2.2.3. > > -- > Pasi Sjöholm > > > On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Pasi Sjoholm wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I set up a mailman today and now I have a little problem. I have this > > corporate mailing list and I have set unsubscribe_policy to yes for that > > list but still users can unsubscribe via web gui after they have clicked > > the unsubscribe and confirmed that they really want to unsubscribe via > > email. > > > > I'm using Mailman 2.1.2... is this a bug or what? > > > > -- > > Pasi Sjöholm

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SMART Archiver
by Gijs Hollestelle 03 Nov '03

03 Nov '03

Hi all, A week ago PieterB told me that there might be an interest in a replacement archiver for pipermail that we created during a software engineering course. That is why i put together a small demo and a homepage for the SMART Archiver project. I have set up a demo by importing the last 3 months of (publicly available) mailman-developers archives into it. The site archive password (which allows anyone to login as an administrator and can not be changed using the web interface) is 'demo'. Note that this demo allows anyone to become administrator, so that anyone can see the admin interface and play with it but if anyone abuses this right i will remove the admin functions from the demo. The demo can be found at: http://gewis.nl/~gijs/cgi-bin/private And the homepage at: http://smartarchiver.sourceforge.net Features of the SMART Archiver: Features: * Gives a threaded overview of messages in a given time period. * Allows users to sort the archive by subject, date, thread, sender and attachment types. * Allows users to search the archive over the web. * Understands MIME attachments and allows searching in plain-text attachments. * Allows administrators to add, remove and edit both messages and attachments. * Integrates with mailman. * Allows users to download all messages in a specific overview in mbox format. * Can import messages from mbox format. * Can automaticly remove messages from the archive after a certain amount of time. Currently there are some known issues with the archiver, which should be worked out in the near future: * Webinterface does not support multiple pages (if you have an overview of a few months there could be a few thousand messages on your screen) * Currently requires the PostgreSQL database, there should also be support for MySQL and some simpler format that can be used without a 3rd party database. * The installer is very poor. Let me know what you all think, currently I am the only active developer on the project if anyone is interested in joining the project please let me know. -- Gijs Hollestelle gijs(a)gewis.nl

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Mailman with Sun ONE Webserver
by Ihsan Dogan 02 Nov '03

02 Nov '03

Hi, I installed Mailman 2.1.3 together with the Sun ONE Webserver 6.1 on Solaris 9. The web-interface works mostly fine, only several things are not working correctly. When I try to subscribe on a mailinglist, I got the following error (from the error log): [02/Nov/2003:11:34:09] failure ( 8211): for host defiant.kinali.ch trying to POST /mailman/subscribe/mailman, cgi_scan_headers reports: HTTP4044: the CGI program /opt/mailman/cgi-bin/subscribe did not produce a valid header (name without value: got line " file "/opt/mailman/mailman/logging/logger.py", line 67, in __get_f") Does somebody have an idea, what is going wrong here? Regards, Ihsan... -- Swiss Unix User Group: http://www.suug.ch/ Software Packages for Solaris: http://www.blastwave.org/

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