Mailman 3 February 1999 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Still can't work
by Harald Meland Feb. 3, 1999

Feb. 3, 1999

[Maznan Deraman] > Help me someone. I'm using Linux Slakware kernel 2.0.36. Mailman 1.08b. > i have installed (re-installed) and play with configuration and test > list about a week, but still I can't get the mailman working, the > webpage & archive mail is working. In what way is something (what?) not working? > please help, otherwise, i have to use majordomo to solve my problem. Are you threatening us? :-) -- Harald

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages silently disappearing
by Harald Meland Feb. 3, 1999

Feb. 3, 1999

[Edward S. Marshall] > [...] Basically, everything seems like it's working, until you send > a message to the list. > > The message is archived, and a log entry is made in the "post" log about > the message, and that's it. Nothing is sent to anyone. The log message comes from around line 1156 of .../Mailman/MailList.py, so things probably work OK that far. Shortly after that, control is passed over to Mailman.Deliverer.DeliverToList(), which pipes the message into .../Mailman/scripts/deliver (and, at around line 175 of .../Mailman/Deliverer.py, logs non-zero exit codes returned to the "deliverer" log). The "deliver" script splits the message receivers into appropriate (domain-ordered) groups, and then for each group pipes the message into .../scripts/contact_transport . contact_transport enqueues the message (in the Mailman queue) and calls Utils.TrySMTPDelivery() -- which uses the Python "smtplib" module to communicate with the MTA on port 25 of `mm_cfg.SMTPHOST'. By default (i.e. imported from .../Mailman/Defaults.py), mm_cfg.SMTPHOST is "localhost" -- to override this, edit .../Mailman/mm_cfg.py. If there is a problem contacting the MTA, hints on how to resolve it should be logged to .../logs/smtp-failures. (Yes, I'm learning this myself as I try to explain :) If none of the above rings a bell why things isn't working, you could try inserting debug prints at strategic places in the flow to pinpoint (approximately) where your installation deviates from what you'd expect. If you do this, the developers might be interested in what you find -- in order to fix Mailman and/or be able to help other Postfix+Mailman users. -- Harald

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Re: [Mailman-Users] trouble ..
by Harald Meland Feb. 3, 1999

Feb. 3, 1999

[afuu_RespInfo(a)etoile.afuu.fr] > Could you help me ? > > I receive this message when i try tu sibscribe to a list > > Do you know what i can do to fix this trouble ? Have a look in your system logs (syslog facility LOG_MAIL, level LOG_CONSOLE) -- the "wrapper" program should have put some indication of why it failed (end exited with status 1) in there. My guess is that you configured mailman without the proper "--with-mail-gid=GROUP" option, so you'll need to reconfigure, recompile and reinstall. > ----- Begin Included Message ----- > > >From Mailer-Daemon Tue Feb 2 20:32 MET 1999 > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test3" > (expanded from: <test3-request(a)fete-internet.fr>) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > 554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test3"... unknown mailer error 1 > > ----- End Included Message ----- -- Harald

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Re: [Mailman-Users] new install: 404 error and empty cgi-bin?
by Harald Meland Feb. 3, 1999

Feb. 3, 1999

[Christopher Kolar] > At 04:47 PM 2/2/99 , J C Lawrence wrote: > >On Tue, 02 Feb 1999 11:51:17 -0600 > >Christopher Kolar<ckolar(a)admin.aurora.edu> wrote: > > > >> One thing that I would like to ask: the cgi-bin directory is empty > >> -- I would have expected the scripts to be there or at least > >> symbolic links. > > > >Something went wrong when you did `make install`. You > >~mailman/cgi-bin directory should look something like this: > > [....] > > I did the configure-installation process two more times and came up with > the same result: the cgi-bin directory is empty. Are any NFS disks involved in this, by any chance? What is the output of # cd mailman-1.0b8/src # make -n install # make install ? > Any thoughts on my I am being singled out for this affliction? If you're installing to a NFS disk, the disk needs to be exported root-writeable -- on Linux, I think the /etc/exports option you need is "no_root_squash", other OSes differ. -- Harald

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Re: [Mailman-Users] new install: 404 error and empty cgi-bin?
by J C Lawrence Feb. 3, 1999

Feb. 3, 1999

On Tue, 02 Feb 1999 11:51:17 -0600 Christopher Kolar<ckolar(a)admin.aurora.edu> wrote: > One thing that I would like to ask: the cgi-bin directory is empty > -- I would have expected the scripts to be there or at least > symbolic links. Something went wrong when you did `make install`. You ~mailman/cgi-bin directory should look something like this: $ d total 342 1 drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 1024 Jan 25 22:17 ./ 1 drwxrwsr-x 15 mailman mailman 1024 Jan 25 22:27 ../ 34 -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 33408 Jan 25 22:17 admin 34 -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 33408 Jan 25 22:17 admindb 34 -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 33416 Jan 25 22:17 archives 34 -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 33416 Jan 25 22:17 edithtml 34 -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 33424 Jan 25 22:17 handle_opts 34 -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 33416 Jan 25 22:17 listinfo 34 -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 33408 Jan 25 22:17 options 34 -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 33408 Jan 25 22:17 private 34 -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 33408 Jan 25 22:17 roster 34 -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 33416 Jan 25 22:17 subscribe $ Your file sizes may be different (this is under Linux/Alpha), but the basic list and permissions should match. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw(a)kanga.nu (Contractor) Internet: coder(a)kanga.nu ---------(*) Internet: claw(a)under.engr.sgi.com ...Honorary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith...

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Still can't work
by Maznan Deraman Feb. 3, 1999

Feb. 3, 1999

Help me someone. I'm using Linux Slakware kernel 2.0.36. Mailman 1.08b. i have installed (re-installed) and play with configuration and test list about a week, but still I can't get the mailman working, the webpage & archive mail is working. here is my dir listing.. ns1:/apps/mailman# ls -al total 16 drwxrwsr-x 15 root mailman 1024 Feb 3 19:16 . drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 1024 Feb 3 19:12 .. drwxrwsr-x 6 root mailman 2048 Feb 3 19:49 Mailman drwxrwsr-x 4 root mailman 1024 Feb 3 19:16 archives drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 1024 Feb 3 19:49 bin drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 1024 Feb 3 19:49 cgi-bin drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 1024 Feb 3 19:49 cron drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 1024 Feb 3 19:49 data drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 1024 Feb 3 19:49 filters drwxrwsr-x 3 root mailman 1024 Feb 3 19:22 lists drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 1024 Feb 3 19:55 locks drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 1024 Feb 3 19:29 logs drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 1024 Feb 3 19:49 mail drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 1024 Feb 3 19:49 scripts drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 1024 Feb 3 19:49 templates ---- there is no error in logs/error or /var/adm/syslog. Everything seems to work, but it is not. /etc/aliases also configured accordingly.. please help, otherwise, i have to use majordomo to solve my problem. --maznan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Help a beginner, please
by Baranyai Laszlo Feb. 3, 1999

Feb. 3, 1999

Hi! I am very new in mailman. The root installed(?) the mailman, and it is in the /etc/mailman /var/mailman (mainly links to /usr/lib/mailman and a public_html directory) /usr/lib/mailman directories (Debian Linux OS, Apache webserver). When I try to use newlist, it creates a subdirectory in etc/mailman and copies some html files there. Unfortunately it does not work and I have no idea how to set everything. Could you help me? (I have no INSTALL documentation for example. Where can I find it? ) I receive error messages like this: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 06:25:12 +0100 From: Cron Daemon <root(a)elfiz2.kee.hu> To: root(a)elfiz2.kee.hu Subject: Cron <root@elfiz2> run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily /etc/cron.daily/cracklib: 45375 45375 /etc/cron.daily/mailman: Traceback (innermost last): File "/var/lib/mailman/cron/checkdbs", line 73, in ? main() File "/var/lib/mailman/cron/checkdbs", line 28, in main list = maillist.MailList(name) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/maillist.py", line 64, in __init__ self.Load() File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/maillist.py", line 546, in Load self.Lock() File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/maillist.py", line 887, in Lock self._lock_file = posixfile.open( File "/usr/lib/python1.5/posixfile.py", line 216, in open return _posixfile_().open(name, mode, bufsize) File "/usr/lib/python1.5/posixfile.py", line 81, in open return self.fileopen(__builtin__.open(name, mode, bufsize)) IOError: (13, 'Permission denied') Exception exceptions.AttributeError: '_file_' in <method _posixfile_.__del__ of _posixfile_ instance at 80afab0> ignored Traceback (innermost last): File "/var/lib/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 37, in ? main() File "/var/lib/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 30, in main list = maillist.MailList(name) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/maillist.py", line 64, in __init__ self.Load() File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/maillist.py", line 546, in Load self.Lock() File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/maillist.py", line 887, in Lock self._lock_file = posixfile.open( File "/usr/lib/python1.5/posixfile.py", line 216, in open return _posixfile_().open(name, mode, bufsize) File "/usr/lib/python1.5/posixfile.py", line 81, in open return self.fileopen(__builtin__.open(name, mode, bufsize)) IOError: (13, 'Permission denied') Exception exceptions.AttributeError: '_file_' in <method _posixfile_.__del__ of _posixfile_ instance at 80c0b00> ignored run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/mailman exited with return code 1

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trouble ..
by afuu_RespInfo＠etoile.afuu.fr Feb. 2, 1999

Feb. 2, 1999

---------- X-Sun-Data-Type: text X-Sun-Data-Description: text X-Sun-Data-Name: text X-Sun-Charset: us-ascii X-Sun-Content-Lines: 26 Hi, Could you help me ? I receive this message when i try tu sibscribe to a list Do you know what i can do to fix this trouble ? Thanks ! Bruno SCHULTZ ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From Mailer-Daemon Tue Feb 2 20:32 MET 1999 ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test3" (expanded from: <test3-request(a)fete-internet.fr>) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test3"... unknown mailer error 1 ----- End Included Message ----- ---------- X-Sun-Data-Type: delivery-status X-Sun-Charset: us-ascii X-Sun-Content-Lines: 9 Reporting-MTA: dns; alpha.fete-intranet.org Received-From-MTA: dns; relay2.eunet.fr Arrival-Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:34:28 +0100 Final-Recipient: rfc822; test3-request(a)fete-internet.fr X-Actual-Recipient: rfc822; |/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test3(a)alpha.fete-intranet.org Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:34:28 +0100 ---------- X-Sun-Data-Type: mail-message X-Sun-Charset: us-ascii X-Sun-Content-Lines: 22 Return-Path: <afuu_RespInfo(a)etoile.afuu.fr> Received: from relay2.eunet.fr (relay2.eunet.fr [192.134.192.149]) by alpha.fete-intranet.org (8.8.7/jtpda-5.3) with SMTP id UAA15801 for <test3-request(a)fete-internet.fr>; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:34:28 +0100 From: afuu_RespInfo(a)etoile.afuu.fr Received: from relay5.eunet.fr by relay2.eunet.fr (5.65c8d/96.05.03) via EUnet-France id AA13813; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:35:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from relay2.eunet.fr (relay2.eunet.fr [192.134.192.149]) by relay5.eunet.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA22820 for <test3-request(a)fete-internet.fr>; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:35:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from etoile.afuu.fr (etoile.afuu.fr [195.115.8.210]) by relay2.eunet.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA13809 for <test3-request(a)fete-internet.fr>; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:35:14 +0100 (MET) Received: by etoile.afuu.fr (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA00793; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:32:43 --100 Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:32:43 --100 Message-Id: <9902021932.AA00793(a)etoile.afuu.fr> To: test3-request(a)fete-internet.fr Subject: Re: Test3 -- confirmation of subscription -- request 302876 X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII

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new install: 404 error and empty cgi-bin?
by Christopher Kolar Feb. 2, 1999

Feb. 2, 1999

Hi everyone. I have just jumped in to my first mailman (b8) install on a system running Linux (2.0.36) and apache (1.3.1). I have looked poured over the access.conf and srm.conf files and everything looks like it should according to the install notes, but still no go. I get the message: [Tue Feb 2 11:38:56 1999] [error] [client 205.212.40.220] script not found or unable to stat: /home/mailman/cgi-bin/admin One thing that I would like to ask: the cgi-bin directory is empty -- I would have expected the scripts to be there or at least symbolic links. I have the alias and scriptsalias settings done according to the docs, as well as the directory entry in the access.conf. The server is set to gid nobody, which is one of the defaults for the config I see (I have no www or www-admin). Could it be possibly related anyway? One other question. I did the config and install as root, should I have su'd to mailman and done it that way? I didn't seen anything specific in the docs apart from becoming mailman to set up the lists. I have looked over the archived from the past few months but nothing there seemed to solve this problem. Thanks much in advance. Thanks in advance. --chris

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Restricting posting to list members broken
by Harald Meland Feb. 1, 1999

Feb. 1, 1999

[jwm(a)plain.co.nz] > Anyone else encountered this with mailman 1.0b8? Yes. > What header info does it use to determine origin? Return-Path: for getting the _envelope_ sender. See the thread including <URL:http://www.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/1999-January/000305.html> in the archives for more info. -- Harald

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