Mailman 3 September 2012 - Mailman-Users

Editing Mailman's text files
by Pete Bell 08 May '24

08 May '24

Hi. I'm a new member of this group but have been running an email list with Mailman for a long time. I am now setting a list up again and want to give a "look and feel" to the list which has more branding of my user group as a whole, and less of a Mailman-feel. I seem to remember that besides editing the public HTML pages, it is possible to edit the text files which Mailman automatically sends out for certain needs (such as 'approve.txt', 'adminsubscribeack.txt', 'invite.txt', and so on). A. Is this still the case? B. If so, where can I find them? (in case they've changed from the ones I have from long ago). C. Where do they need putting, so that Mailman can use them again? It's important that I should tell you that Mailman on my webhosts servers is a "server-wide" installation, and I don't get to edit anything which other clients to their servers need. This would be only for my own use, and as such I need to know where these files go in my own webspace, and how to get Mailman to use them instead of the default ones. I should also say that I have done this before, so unless the facility to do this has been ditched in recent years, I *should* still be able to do it ! Does Mailman perhaps look for these files somewhere in my webspace (which I have to give a specific name), and if it doesn't find them it goes on to find its default versions of these files? Thanks in advance for your help. Pete Bell, UK

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Running two list with same email prefix
by Andrea Cappelli 27 Feb '24

27 Feb '24

Hi all, I'm running a mail server with Debian Lenny, MTA is Postfix and i will use postfix-to-mailma.py script to run list I would set up Mailman for running mailing list with same email prefix on different domains, obvious with different list names For example we have ml.domain1.com and ml.domain2.net, i would like to have LISTADDRESS LISTNAME tech(a)ml.domain1.com tech-ml.domain1.com tech(a)ml.domain.2.net tech-ml.domain2.net In this way i can have the same address on differente domains and Mailman (my version is 2.1.11) can distinguish between lists because the list name is different. The list name will be also used to access web interface, so we have http://ml.domain1.com/mailman/admin/tech-ml.domain1.com http://ml.domain2.net/mailman/admin/tech-ml.domain2.net Is possible to accomplish this task? Any idea?

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Hide list address?
by Ricardo Kleemann 17 Nov '23

17 Nov '23

Hi, Is there any way to configure Mailman such that, for an announcement-only type list, when a message is sent to the list, the To: shows the member's address, rather than the list address? Some list software allows the ability to hide the list address itself, so that address is not advertised. I couldn't find any configuration specific to that.

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Add "sender's name/email" to BODY of mail as header?
by Mal 17 Feb '21

17 Feb '21

I want all mails sent to the list to come from the list's email address... But, in this case, if the user forgets to sign their name at the bottom of their mail body, effectively the mail to the list is anonymous...! Is there a way to add the user name (or email address) to the top of each mail so that the mails have the name of the sender, while the mail itself comes from the list address? I have looked high and low for an answer, but noone seems to have the solution. Thank you! Mal

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Mailman CGI Error-Group mismatch error
by Wang, Mary Y 10 Sep '20

10 Sep '20

Hi, I received the following error this morning. So I rerun configure again with the following command: ./configure --with-cgi-id=apache --prefix=/var/mailman. I'm still getting the same error. Is there any place that I can look for so that I can debug this problem better? Perhaps, looking at the config history file or something. Any other places that I can check the cause of this error? "Mailman CGI error!!! The Mailman CGI wrapper encountered a fatal error. This entry is being stored in your syslog: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the CGI wrapper script to be executed as group "nobody", but the system's web server executed the CGI script as group "apache". Try tweaking the web server to run the script as group "nobody", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-cgi-gid=apache'." Thanks Mary

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Unable to create new list
by Andreas Nitsche 03 Oct '12

03 Oct '12

Hello list, I have setup a mailman environment to be able to manage multiple domains. For each domain there's running a seperate mailman instance. I'm compiling mailman with the following parameters: DOMAIN=$1 MAILMANROOT="/usr/local/mailman/${DOMAIN}" USERNAME="mailman-${DOMAIN}" ./configure --prefix=${MAILMANROOT} --with-var-prefix=${MAILMANROOT} --with-mailhost=${DOMAIN} --with-urlhost=lists.${DOMAIN} --with-username="${USERNAME}" --with-groupname="${USERNAME}" --with-mail-gid=${USERNAME} There are some scripts around each mailman instance which are generated to fit on each several instance, i.e. the init script /etc/init.d/mailman-${DOMAIN} ${MAILMANROOT} is owned by mailman-${DOMAIN}:nobody and user and group writable. The webserver (httpd.itk) is running with user mailman-${DOMAIN} and group nobody, so this should fit. When I try to create a new mailinglist I hit the page which says: "Bug in Mailman version 2.1.14". When I have a look at the error log of this mailman instance I can see this error: Sep 30 12:10:36 2012 (8424) command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias /usr/local/mailman/zaubert.net/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted) Sep 30 12:10:36 2012 admin(8424): @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ admin(8424): [----- Mailman Version: 2.1.14 -----] admin(8424): [----- Traceback ------] admin(8424): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(8424): File "/usr/local/mailman/zaubert.net/scripts/driver", line 112, in run_main admin(8424): main() admin(8424): File "/usr/local/mailman/zaubert.net/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 56, in main admin(8424): process_request(doc, cgidata) admin(8424): File "/usr/local/mailman/zaubert.net/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 239, in process_request admin(8424): sys.modules[modname].create(mlist, cgi=1) admin(8424): File "/usr/local/mailman/zaubert.net/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 238, in create admin(8424): _update_maps() admin(8424): File "/usr/local/mailman/zaubert.net/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 53, in _update_maps admin(8424): raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr) admin(8424): RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias /usr/local/mailman/zaubert.net/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted) admin(8424): [----- Python Information -----] admin(8424): sys.version = 2.6.6 (r266:84292, Sep 11 2012, 08:34:23) [GCC 4.4.6 20120305 (Red Hat 4.4.6-4)] admin(8424): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(8424): sys.prefix = /usr admin(8424): sys.exec_prefix = /usr admin(8424): sys.path = ['/usr/local/mailman/zaubert.net/pythonlib', '/usr/local/mailman/zaubert.net', '/usr/local/mailman/zaubert.net/scripts', '/usr/local/mailman/zaubert.net', '/usr/lib64/python26.zip', '/usr/lib64/python2.6/', '/usr/lib64/python2.6/plat-linux2', '/usr/lib64/python2.6/lib-tk', '/usr/lib64/python2.6/lib-old', '/usr/lib64/python2.6/lib-dynload', '/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages'] admin(8424): sys.platform = linux2 Can you tell me with which user this command gets executed? I had a look at the aliases file: -rw-rw----. 1 mailman-zaubert.net nobody 2159 30. Sep 13:33 aliases -rw-r-----. 1 mailman-zaubert.net nobody 49152 30. Sep 13:33 aliases.db I looked at the audit.log, because SELinux is enabled, but it's empty. When I try to execute the command on the command line this works perfectly without errors: su mailman-zaubert.net -c "/usr/sbin/postalias /usr/local/mailman/zaubert.net/data/aliases" --shell=/bin/bash It would be great to get any help on that. cheers Andi

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Automate Moderator Functions
by Dennis Putnam 03 Oct '12

03 Oct '12

I've seen various queries on this but nothing definitive about it being added as a feature or even a customizable mod. There are certain moderator actions that potentially could be automated. For example, I would never approve a posting from a non-member of a restricted list. It would make my moderator duties much easier if I could have mailman automatically reject or discard such posts. The same might be true for exceeding the size limit. Is this something that has been considered and rejected as a feature or is it something that is doable now that I have just not been able to find? TIA.

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prune_arch
by Con Wieland 03 Oct '12

03 Oct '12

Hello, I just found this very useful looking script but am getting the following errors when I try running it. ./prune_arch -l mgsa-l -d 1095 -n Traceback (most recent call last): File "./prune_arch", line 191, in ? main() File "./prune_arch", line 156, in main mdate = mktime_tz(parsedate_tz(msg['date'])) File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/_parseaddr.py", line 140, in mktime_tz if data[9] is None: TypeError: unsubscriptable object Any help would be appreciated Con Wieland Office of Information Technology University of California at Irvine

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Mailman and Postfix-style Virtual Domains (not a problem, only a question!)
by Norbert Aschendorff 02 Oct '12

02 Oct '12

Hey list, I'm maintaining a server with Postfix and Mailman including Postfix-style virtual domains. This works fine so far. But is it normal that the creation of a list for a virtual subdomain ($prefix/bin/newlist -e subdomain listname) not only creates entries in $prefix/data/virtual-mailman, but also in the aliases file for the "main" domain ($prefix/data/aliases)? I didn't find anything on the web, there are only issues related to non-found hash DBs or missing virtual domains etc. But in mailman-install.pdf which I used for the installation, there's the following sentence: "Mailman’s support of virtual domains is limited in that list names must be globally unique within a single Mailman instance, i.e., two lists may not have the same name even if they are in different domains." Is that related? Or am I doing something wrong? --Norbert P.S.: I'm rather new to Mailman, but I think that I've understood it basically.

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Question regarding SPAM
by Futchko, Rose 01 Oct '12

01 Oct '12

Hi, I have a question about SPAM being sent via Mailman. 1. Even though the message is marked as SPAM it is still sent to the list 2. The sender is not a member of the moderated list 3. Spam filters at the other members site are catching the Spam and returning the not delivered message (example below) 4. Have I mis-configured something in the Mailman to allow this to happen (It happens often) Thank you, Rose Example Message: This is the mail delivery agent at messagelabs.com. I was not able to deliver your message to the following addresses. Remote host said: 554 5.7.9 Message not accepted for policy reasons. --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Return-Path: <mailman-bounces(a)list.informs.org> X-Env-Sender: mailman-bounces(a)list.informs.org X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-85.messagelabs.com!1348767090!55220986!1 X-Originating-IP: [216.230.111.83] X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.6.1.3; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 16887 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2012 17:31:30 -0000 Received: from mail.informs.com (HELO mail.informs.org) (216.230.111.83) by server-8.tower-85.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 27 Sep 2012 17:31:30 -0000 Received: by mail.informs.org (Postfix, from userid 506) id 7354A20798; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:31:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on informs-app02-listserv.custcbb.local X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Spam-Level: ******************* X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=19.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_99,DATE_IN_PAST_03_06, Received: from informs-app02-listserv.custcbb.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.informs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0E42086E; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:31:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 06:31:17 -0600 From: Cierra Orozco via LinkedIn <member(a)linkedin.com> Reply-To: Cierra Orozco <JacksonYore(a)mnp.ca> To: southeastern-michigan-chapter-owner <southeastern-michigan-chapter-owner(a)list.informs.org> Message-ID: <126881171.1872436.8821718263356.JavaMail.app(a)ela0-app0430.prod> Subject: [SPAM] United Postal Service Tracking Number H8260315491 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2502201_6486519708.0424312323509"

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