Mailman 3 June 2015 - Mailman-Users

Editing Mailman's text files
by Pete Bell 08 May '24

08 May '24

Hi. I'm a new member of this group but have been running an email list with Mailman for a long time. I am now setting a list up again and want to give a "look and feel" to the list which has more branding of my user group as a whole, and less of a Mailman-feel. I seem to remember that besides editing the public HTML pages, it is possible to edit the text files which Mailman automatically sends out for certain needs (such as 'approve.txt', 'adminsubscribeack.txt', 'invite.txt', and so on). A. Is this still the case? B. If so, where can I find them? (in case they've changed from the ones I have from long ago). C. Where do they need putting, so that Mailman can use them again? It's important that I should tell you that Mailman on my webhosts servers is a "server-wide" installation, and I don't get to edit anything which other clients to their servers need. This would be only for my own use, and as such I need to know where these files go in my own webspace, and how to get Mailman to use them instead of the default ones. I should also say that I have done this before, so unless the facility to do this has been ditched in recent years, I *should* still be able to do it ! Does Mailman perhaps look for these files somewhere in my webspace (which I have to give a specific name), and if it doesn't find them it goes on to find its default versions of these files? Thanks in advance for your help. Pete Bell, UK

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Running two list with same email prefix
by Andrea Cappelli 27 Feb '24

27 Feb '24

Hi all, I'm running a mail server with Debian Lenny, MTA is Postfix and i will use postfix-to-mailma.py script to run list I would set up Mailman for running mailing list with same email prefix on different domains, obvious with different list names For example we have ml.domain1.com and ml.domain2.net, i would like to have LISTADDRESS LISTNAME tech(a)ml.domain1.com tech-ml.domain1.com tech(a)ml.domain.2.net tech-ml.domain2.net In this way i can have the same address on differente domains and Mailman (my version is 2.1.11) can distinguish between lists because the list name is different. The list name will be also used to access web interface, so we have http://ml.domain1.com/mailman/admin/tech-ml.domain1.com http://ml.domain2.net/mailman/admin/tech-ml.domain2.net Is possible to accomplish this task? Any idea?

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Hide list address?
by Ricardo Kleemann 17 Nov '23

17 Nov '23

Hi, Is there any way to configure Mailman such that, for an announcement-only type list, when a message is sent to the list, the To: shows the member's address, rather than the list address? Some list software allows the ability to hide the list address itself, so that address is not advertised. I couldn't find any configuration specific to that.

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Using cronjob to remove and add members to a mailing list
by Jerry Barnabee 10 Aug '22

10 Aug '22

I want to be able to run a cronjob on my server that uses a php script to add new users and/or remove users from a mailing list. Not having any luck finding any simple examples. My thought is that the php script would get email addresses from a database (which I can do) and then feed them to a mailman command line to either add or remove a user. The cronjob is entered via Cpanel. Have several cronjobs that modify databases but have never tried something that would actually execute a unix command. Thanks, Pineyscripter

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Add "sender's name/email" to BODY of mail as header?
by Mal 17 Feb '21

17 Feb '21

I want all mails sent to the list to come from the list's email address... But, in this case, if the user forgets to sign their name at the bottom of their mail body, effectively the mail to the list is anonymous...! Is there a way to add the user name (or email address) to the top of each mail so that the mails have the name of the sender, while the mail itself comes from the list address? I have looked high and low for an answer, but noone seems to have the solution. Thank you! Mal

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Mailman CGI Error-Group mismatch error
by Wang, Mary Y 10 Sep '20

10 Sep '20

Hi, I received the following error this morning. So I rerun configure again with the following command: ./configure --with-cgi-id=apache --prefix=/var/mailman. I'm still getting the same error. Is there any place that I can look for so that I can debug this problem better? Perhaps, looking at the config history file or something. Any other places that I can check the cause of this error? "Mailman CGI error!!! The Mailman CGI wrapper encountered a fatal error. This entry is being stored in your syslog: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the CGI wrapper script to be executed as group "nobody", but the system's web server executed the CGI script as group "apache". Try tweaking the web server to run the script as group "nobody", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-cgi-gid=apache'." Thanks Mary

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DMARC hack
by Allan Hansen 10 Apr '16

10 Apr '16

Hi, I have waited almost a year for AOL and Yahoo to admit that they messed up and to remove their DMARC policy. My AOL and Yahoo subscribers are pretty upset at me because I won’t let them post. A number now have two subscriptions, one for posting (from GMail) and another for receiving the messages. So against my better judgement, I included this hack in Cleanse.py; 22c22 < from email.Utils import formataddr, parseaddr — >from email.Utils import formataddr 69,74d68 < < # Added to deal with DMARC issuej < name, addrs = parseaddr(msg.get('from')) < addrs += '.invalid' < del msg['from'] < msg['from'] = formataddr((name, addrs)) \ No newline at end of file I found it in the discussion list. I don’t get compile errors, but Cleanse.pyc is not being updated. I have stopped and restarted Mailman and I have also rebooted, but same non-action. I have not tried ‘compileall’ and am not eager to, either (permissions, where to invoke, etc). Any suggestions? The host OS is Mac OS X Server 10.5.8 with Mailman 2.1.14 Yours, Allan

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duplicates
by Marco Stoecker 29 Oct '15

29 Oct '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I have Mailman up and running. I just sent an e-mail to 5 lists and the e-mail came duplicated to the recipients. I checked the header and the only difference is the following: 1. Header: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 2. Header: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 How can a avoid duplicates in future? What is the reason? BR Marco -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVCfIsAAoJEC1y3OsA+e10t2MP/0lS3W8F000CYn4MQ1M7Zfqj lzJskw5ysngsspQOCZ9kjBuHmh/TGHusZB90wkapMdAwlbuAypQKB6T7L6nwhKy4 xRkCxKJ6hZybb8g5pvatPnODbFfJE96kOAD9d6B1r5hv56FTE+/TG/50/kCQC4do 9AxsoBUD0hNcSwwTjazMGwGZ4NqDDVLXsrauCR02jB+VdqiZgGrGVnQUS6KRHKB+ fOc3VDxh/jbizRCkh8NFQfwW039QnLQyo+HM/pnYQyDcmsfyPg80/TMoyZLhR6PN NK3AZi+BykM8l7SfyWjmkltHERxYe3ouupQ0wPbWbOY/RCQ0gUUWb28CGZ3HChV6 eypbvPwnXk45WXvQuyhFsU7/KvWVBcb3MNezEm6Q/h5gQyI9FVmEABzjzsvkXxBg j9WhfiatL3ZN1cpCvb1RPxkP4hZ5YHf1fy9QqgXahLl+nuXSQu7IyKR0vJOXdq00 riB3Su7BWPV/lhaXXV6N9PA2TjjJ69tQ8oOfuB4UTJ19Wme1Zwo6J1pWkjY/xZsL izz9BrJeMZas2WqyBwHy2/mibyBMmG6nOW1F+FfqXSb/G/GZSA/yMg/5hb0GMgEc Fbihuiq2TW/TgkPkF+Bx6o+XtKAMA8yVAxrkOEo6YLbD28aga9uAKlai2ypiFQll 6aCeU5gwScRf5mlvnaay =Fkgv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Mailman 2.1.18-1 not respecting add_virtualhost
by Chris Miller 03 Jul '15

03 Jul '15

Hello, we recently updated our (vhost patched) Mailman installation from 2.1.14 to 2.1.18-1 (https://launchpad.net/~msapiro) in order to workaround Yahoo's recent change to their SPF policy that this version addresses. Virtual mailing list hosting worked fine up until this upgrade. Here is an example of our mm_cfg.py : VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'list.ourdomain.com' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'list.ourdomain.com' DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = On add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) add_virtualhost('list.customerdomain.com', 'customerdomain.com') If we change the default values above and run the below command, the available mailing lists move from the old default to the new. bin/withlist -l -a -r fix_url -- All add_virtualhost configuration lines are ignored. Since withlist is able to read the changes in our mm_cfg.py, this does not strike me as an issue with our configure options which were limited : ./configure --prefix=/usr/lib/mailman --with-var-prefix=/var/lib/mailman --with-cgi-gid=apache I am unaware of a method we can use to further debug this, such as a command that would effectively dump out Mailman's configuration options, thus validating if it is even reading the add_virtualhost configuration lines. -- Regards, Chris Chris Miller President - Rocket Scientist ScratchSpace Inc. (831) 621-7928 http://www.scratchspace.com

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Sub-lists
by Ron Webb 03 Jul '15

03 Jul '15

I am looking to set-up a mailing list for a group of people but was hoping there is a way to have sub-lists. For example, I'd like to have one group be everyone, then another group that is regional. I was thinking of " group-all(a)mydomain.com" for messages covering everyone but they could send a message to "group-sacramento(a)mydomain.com" to and it will only go to those that are interested in "Sacramento" specific messages. I would like to make subscribers opt-in or opt-out of the regional. At this point, I have not selected a hosting service yet. I wish to bring my own domain to wherever I choose. I'm not sure if someone that just advertises that they use Mailman is sufficient or if I need to find a hosting company that provides shell access for setup is what I need. I'm sure there is some Wiki or something if this sub-lists works but I must be using the wrong search term for what I want. Another thing that is important for me is I do NOT want to archive or cache messages, at least for not much more than a day. For me, I work for a large corporation. While it is a large corporation, those of us wishing this list are like bastard step-children. We work with others from the same corporation but we operate under completely different rules and a different hierarchy. We seldom see each other because there is usually only one of us working in an area at a time and we are spread out geographically. We are represented by the same union that the majority of the employees of the corporation are represented by, but since we do not have a common work area, we have no way of having "water-cooler talk". As it is "water-cooler talk", we do not wish it to be officially a part of the union nor the corporation. If there is any concern about something said, as the facilitator of communications, I wish to just say I do not save communications. If a group member wishes to save something, that is up to them, as is the case with how we are doing email now. I will also wish to add some type of disclaimer that no one will probably give it much thought, but it will state that statements made are the of the sole responsibility of the author of the statement and they are not the official opinion of the corporation nor the union and the maintainer of the list does not archive messages. I'm sure I'll come up with much better wording than that but I'm sure you get the gist. I'm just hoping I've found the right product and can receive some advice from those that have set up lists.

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