Mailman-Users September 2005

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Setting MIME as default for new Non-Digest subscribers
by Steve Reiter 31 Jul '11

31 Jul '11

Hi - I have searched FAQ and archives to find an answer. Hoping you can help. I have a new list (with previously imported addresses) for announcements only, and wish these announcements to be received immediately. I set the defaults to allow non-digest and to not allow digest. I wish to send out announcements in html, and so wish to make the default for new subscribers be MIME. While I see a setting under Digest Options (MIME_is_Default_Digest), I don't see any equivalent option under Non-Digest Options... and new subscribers continue to come in as plain text. QUESTIONS: In order to avoid having to manually change this option for each existing subscriber, is there a way to force all existing subscribers to receive MIME in Non-Digest mode? If not, is there a way to force all NEW subscribers to be enrolled with MIME as their default? Also, is there a way to "lock" the MIME switch on, so that users who try to change their option to plain text will be prevented from doing so? Thanks - Steve

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MSN and HotMail "Eating" Messages
by fshagan 24 May '07

24 May '07

Recently, my Mailman list users who use either a HotMail or MSN.COM email address have not received any messages. Mailman does not record a "bounce" from these email addresses, but they do not receive any of the list traffic. When trying to send a message to a Mailman list, the user gets the following error message: "This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. Delivery to the following recipients failed." And it lists the Mailman list email address. However, Mailman does not receive a bounce message. (My server is not listed with SpamHaus.org, or any of the other blacklists, so it should not be a spam filter sort of thing). One user requested help from MSN, and they responded with: "You are experiencing this issue because your .Net Passport <user's email address here> Profile (which is extensively used for authentication purposes) is corrupted (not updated). In order to resolve this issue, I would suggest you to Update your .NET passport profile." They follow that with instructions to go to their MSN .NET Passport profile and re-type all the information by hand (not by cut and paste). Then a 15-step procedure is given to delete all cookies, history and temporary internet files and re-set the disk cache (space for files) to 10MB. They believe that will solve the problem but alas, it has not for the 4 users I have with MSN or HotMail email addresses. Anyone else run into this and resolved it? I didn't see anything in the archives. If any of you have users with MSN or HotMail addresses, be advised they probably will not be able to receive emails, but you will not get "bounce" messages. They only way they will know is if they try to post to a Mailman list.

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Web admin slow
by Jon Harris 01 Dec '06

01 Dec '06

Hi List I have a (bit aged) Redhat 9 box (Pentium II/512Mb RAM) running Mailman 2.1.6 with Postfix. Its only has to run a single moderated mailing list sending out one email every day to around 20,000 subscribers. Sending out the emails is not problem - it works great. The major problem is logging in to approve the email. It (Apache/2.0.40) is so slow that it usually times out with a 500 error after you try and login. Is there a way of speeding up the web interface? Can I approve postings from the command line? There is a large archive as they have been running this for around 3 years. Will it speed up if we trash part of the archive. If so how can I trash archived data that is (say) over a year old? There was a thread on this problem, but it was not really resolved, and that user had 450,000 subscribers. Any help appreciated. Jon Harris

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Membership Management And Other Problems.
by multimedia-fan＠myrealbox.com 21 Mar '06

21 Mar '06

Greetings, I cannot "Set everyone's moderation bit, including those members not currently visible" to on, in the membership management section in any list. I have set OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = 1 In /Mailman/mm_cfgy.py But still have the same problem. Also I cannot set or unset digest for all users, any thing I overlooked? This was happening before the changes made in the next issue explained below. In the last couple of days we had to reconfigure reverse mapping in DNS for the server, and now the URLs that Mailman builds in the list admin and info pages are pointing to the old host name, is there a way of correcting this, without re-installing mailman from scratch? Any pointers, clues will be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your assistance.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe without confirmation
by Sintz, James 08 Dec '05

08 Dec '05

Thanks!! I understand the purpose of the confirmation, I just want the ability to turn it off. It is okay if users get unsubscribed from my list because of a spooked request. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:msapiro@value.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:52 AM To: Sintz, James; mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe without confirmation Sintz, James wrote: >Is there a way to enable unsubscribing without requiring user confirmation? Users are added to the list manually by an administrator, yet we do want to allow users the ability to unsubscribe using the listname-leave@ address. E-mail unsub requests require confirmation to prevent spoofed requests from succeeding. The user can avoid the confirmation by providing his/her password with the e-mailed unsubscribe command, but this only works if an unsubscribe command is mailed to the listname-request address. Mail to the listname-leave or listname-unsubscribe address is not parsed for commands and is treated as if it just contained a plain 'unsubscribe'. Send mail with subject 'help' (w/o the quotes) to the listname-request address for more info on the unsubscribe command. -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The Ohio Public Employees Retirement System intends this e-mail message, and any attachments, to be used only by the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed. This message may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. If the reader is not the intended recipient of this message or an employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are prohibited from printing, copying, storing, disseminating or distributing this communication. If you received this communication in error, please delete it from your computer and notify the sender by reply e-mail.

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A non-text attachment was scrubbed... -- URL break
by Tim Willson 05 Nov '05

05 Nov '05

I've looked at the Whole Mailman FAQ and looked at archived message threads back 5-6 months and have not see a discussion or resolution on the problem I'm seeing with URL line breaks in my list archived messages. Basically if I set Non-digest options/"Scrub attachments of regular delivery message?" to No my archived messages, scrubber adds the non-test attachment was scrubbed URL, URL's are ok full line and clickable. Messages from the list have the attachment and life is good. The first example below. If I set Non-digest options/"Scrub attachments of regular delivery message?" to Yes my archived messages URL's have an extra = in the URL string at the end of line one and a line break making the URL 2 lines and non-clickable. The second example. Please, if somebody has seen this problem, has a resolution, or if the FAQ has the answer, let me know. ------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Official notice Spam Filtering Implementation Update 09030.pdf Type: application/octet-stream Size: 76382 bytes Desc: not available Url : <http://www.mn.us/pipermail/listname/attachments/20050901/4bb779ff/Officialn oticeSpamFilteringUpdate09030-0001.pdf> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Official notice Spam Filtering Implementation Update 09030.pdf Type: application/octet-stream Size: 76382 bytes Desc: not available Url : <http://www.mn.us/pipermail/listname/attachments/20050901/2d8=> eb35e/OfficialnoticeSpamFilteringUpdate09030.pdf -tw -tw

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hide lists from listinfo page only (leave on admin page)
by Xiaoyan Ma 20 Oct '05

20 Oct '05

We have migrated all mailing lists from Majordomo to Mailman (mailman-2.1.5-25.rhel3n on redhat 3.0 AS). We would like to hide those lists that are closed for subscription from the listinfo page for 2 reasons: to keep the page short and to avoid subscription attempts. We would like to keep them on the admin page for the list owners. Setting "advertised = 1" will hide the list from both listinfo page and admin page. We would like to set this up at the list level so we dont have to modify the global configurations during upgrades. I have tried to modify web_page_url = listinfo/%(list_name)s to something like web_page_url = listinfo/%( )s to blank out the listinfo url but could not get the syntax right. Am I on the right track? What are the other options? Thanks. Xiaoyan

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Monthly password reminders not working
by Darren G Pifer 20 Oct '05

20 Oct '05

Hello, I thought this was working when we moved to Mailman 2.1.6b4 in June, (I could be wrong) but the monthly password reminder is not working. I, and a colleague, have tried to manually test the script for a single list but it is not working. The script that runs out of mailman's cron is: # 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password reminders. 0 5 1 * * /usr/bin/python -S /usr1/mailman/mailman/cron/mailpasswds I tried testing with: $ pwd /usr1/mailman/mailman/cron $ runas -u mailman ./mailpasswds -l testlist It just exits. Nothing in the mail or mailman logs. Other details: Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS release 3 Any suggestions? Darren Old Dominion University

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Mailman/PHP/Digest Issue
by Neal Berwick 20 Oct '05

20 Oct '05

Hey All, My apologies in advance if I'm directing this to the wrong location, but I'm about out of ideas. I recently built a small PHP web form to allow individuals to send email updates to our various mailman lists. Everything works quite nicely for non-digest users, but when I tried to configure the script for digest users, things started to get weird. Initially, no matter how many emails I dispatched using the form, the Mailman digest always listed a single topic. In the MIME digest it attached a single message (the first message sent to the list) and in plaintext it appended all the messages sent to the list but still listed as a single message. The headers where all subsequent messages were to start seemed pretty messed up. So I decided to play with the headers a bit and added the line in the php: $headers .= "X-Mailer: PHP/" . phpversion() . "\n"; After that change all digests calculated the number of messages correctly and displayed the headers accurately. Unfortunately, though every thing looks good in digest/plaintext, digest/MIME was acting up. When a MIME digest was received in Outlook, the messages were not attached to the digest. Yet when I sent to a gmail account they appeared below as forwarded messages. Now if I forsake the php form and send MIME email from outlook to the list Outlook correctly creates a multipart/alternative email and the MIME/digest contains appropriate attachments for all messages. Below I list the headers that I'm setting in php, the relevant sections of the plaintext digest with incorrectly counted messages/topics and finally the relevant sections of the plaintext digest with the correct message count. Thanks in advance to anyone who has any thoughts php: $boundary='--' . md5( uniqid("IsNealAGenius") ); $headers = "From: \"Home Office\" <" . $from. ">\n"; $headers .= "Mime-Version: 1.0\n"; $headers .= "Content-type: multipart/alternative;\n boundary=\"$boundary\"\n X-Mailer: PHP/" . phpversion() . "\n"; $message="\nThis is a multi-part message in MIME format.\n"; $message.="\n\n--$boundary\n"; $message.="Content-Type: text/plain; charset=\"us-ascii\"\n"; $message.="Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n\n"; $mail_to = "test_list(a)here.com"; $message .= strip_tags($test); $message .= "\n\n--$boundary\n"; $message .= "Content-Type: text/html; charset=\"us-ascii\"\n"; $message.="Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n\n"; $message .= $test; mail ($mail_to,"test",$message,$headers); ...................................................................................... plaintext digest 1. Today's Topics: 1. test (Home Office) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 10:19:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Home Office" neal(a)here.com To: test_list(a)here.com Subject: [Test_list] test Message-ID: 20050921141936.AF158524114(a)mail.here.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--274280a87c2f32840e53791334dfb49f" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 1 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----274280a87c2f32840e53791334dfb49f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <stripped HTML here.> ----274280a87c2f32840e53791334dfb49f Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <Real HTML here> ----274280a87c2f32840e53791334dfb49f-- >From apache(a)here.com Wed Sep 21 10:19:51 2005 Return-Path: apache(a)here.com X-Original-To: test_list(a)here.com Delivered-To: test_list(a)here.com Received: by mail.here.com <http://mail.here.com> (Postfix, from userid 48) id 0952E52406B; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 10:19:51 -0400 (EDT) To: test_list(a)here.com From: "Home Office" neal(a)here.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--921e4b971d970fe077e26dadad939251" Message-Id: 20050921141951.0952E52406B(a)mail.here.com Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 10:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Test_list] test X-BeenThere: test_list(a)here.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Test list to work out bugs <test_list.here.com> List-Unsubscribe: <*http://www.here.com/mailman/listinfo/test_list*<http://www.here.com/mailman/listinfo/test_list> >, <*mailto:test_list-request@here.com?subject=unsubscribe*<test_list-request(a)here.com?subject=unsubscribe> > List-Archive: </heremail> List-Post: <*mailto:test_list@here.com* <test_list(a)here.com>> List-Help: <*mailto:test_list-request@here.com?subject=help*<test_list-request(a)here.com?subject=help> > List-Subscribe: <*http://www.here.com/mailman/listinfo/test_list*<http://www.here.com/mailman/listinfo/test_list> >, <*mailto:test_list-request@here?subject=subscribe*<test_list-request@here?subject=subscribe> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----921e4b971d970fe077e26dadad939251 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ..... <Rest of message> ............................................................ plaintext digest #2: Today's Topics: 1. test (Home Office) 2. test (Home Office) 3. test (Home Office) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 09:56:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Home Office" neal(a)here.com To: test_list(a)here.com Subject: [Test_list] test Message-ID: 20050921135642.7C15B52406B(a)mail.here.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--c9dff2da6d2e9942c846b891d664122e" X-Mailer: PHP/4.3.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 1 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----c9dff2da6d2e9942c846b891d664122e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <Plain text here> ----d9d51c58d8acd322402f930ba7754354 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <HTML here> ----01f73f678c4ca55f470d0225d6131bb2 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:28:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Home Office" neal(a)here.com To: test_list(a)here.com Subject: [Test_list] test Message-ID: 20050921172837.6110952406B(a)mail.here.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--7cdc89be99811720df8db7a5ddb7bc0e" X-Mailer: PHP/4.3.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 2 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----7cdc89be99811720df8db7a5ddb7bc0e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <rest of message>

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Exporting subscribers list
by Arlequín 18 Oct '05

18 Oct '05

Hello, there! I am using MailMain trough its web-based interface. I don't have access to the server where its runs, because it's a third-party hosting company which provides me the MailMan service. I want to export the subscribers list in a format like this: subscriber1(a)mydomain.com subscriber2(a)mydomain.com . . . . . . . subscriber9(a)mydomain.com I wasn't able to find the way to perform this operation, searching deeply into the options tree. Is it possible to obtain this kind of list? T.I.A. -- Arlequín _o) amahoro_AT_adinet_DOT_com_DOT_uy / \\ http://counter.li.org/ _(___V Linux Registered User #207262

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