Mailman-Users July 2021

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Problem with outlook.com
by nikos 15 Jun '22

15 Jun '22

Hello list. For some reason none of hotmail or outlook users don't receive any of our newsletter. Finally all of them auto unsubscribe. The following is an error received form protection.outlook.com: Remote Server returned '550 5.6.0 CAT.InvalidContent.Exception: ExchangeDataException, Decoding of header Subject failed+ADs- raw value: +AFs-Ps+AF0- +AD0-?iso8859-7?b?wer98fnz5yDF8OX05enh6t7yIOXq5N7r+-fPn8iDz9Oft?+AD0-; cannot handle content of message That happened since September 10th this year. Before, all received without problem. Any suggestions? Thank you in advance. Nikos.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Automate Moderator Functions
by Andre de Azevedo Cunha 18 Apr '22

18 Apr '22

Hi, i`m trying to reject messages bigger then MAX_MESSAGE_SIZE. I configured my Hold.py was described bellow: replaced hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, _ MessageTooBig(bodylen,_mlist.max_message_size)) with rej = MessageTooBig(bodylen, mlist.max_message_size) _ raise Errors.RejectMessage, rej.reason_notice_ The message was rejected, but the sender dont receive any notify about that. The mailman vette log too. How can i solve this? Thanks, André Dennis Putnam wrote: > >I am getting back to this and I have a question about maintenance. What >is the correct way to modify this so that it will not get destroyed by >updates? There are two ways to proceed. You can modify Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py itself, but before overwriting it, make a "diff -u" between the base Hold.py and your modified version to use as a patch to apply after any upgrade. A better way is to leave Hold.py unchanged and make your own edited version as say Mailman/Handlers/MyHold.py. Then you can replace the base Hold.py Module with your MyHold.py by putting GLOBAL_PIPELINE[GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold')] = 'MyHold' in mm_cfg.py. Note that if you are going to do this, and you want also to move MimeDel before Hold, you must either put the above line after the lines GLOBAL_PIPELINE.remove('MimeDel') GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') in mm_cfg.py or put it before, but then also change GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') to GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('MyHold'), 'MimeDel') I recommend the former as in # # Put MimeDel ahead of Hold so "too big" is based on content filtered # message. # GLOBAL_PIPELINE.remove('MimeDel') GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') # # Replace Hold with local version # GLOBAL_PIPELINE[GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold')] = 'MyHold' Since mm_cfg.py survives upgrades, this should survive. >Also does this same procedure apply to other automatic rejections such >as implicit destination? >On 9/24/2012 8:43 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> To automatically reject or discard messages that exceed the list's size >> limit, find the section of the Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py that ends with >> the lines >> >> >> if bodylen/1024.0 > mlist.max_message_size: >> hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, >> MessageTooBig(bodylen, >> mlist.max_message_size)) >> # no return >> >> (there is one wrapped line in the above) and replace >> >> hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, >> MessageTooBig(bodylen, >> mlist.max_message_size)) >> >> with >> >> rej = MessageTooBig(bodylen, mlist.max_message_size)) >> raise Errors.RejectMessage, rej.reason_notice >> >> to reject the message or with >> >> raise Errors.DiscardMessage >> >> to discard the message. Note that this will not honor the list's >> forward_auto_discards setting. to do that you would need to put >> >> from Mailman.Handlers.Moderate import do_discard >> >> with the other imports near the beginning of the >> Mailman.Handlers.hold.py module and then replace the lines with >> >> do_discard(mlist, msg) Yes, similar changes would apply to other holds in Hold.py. -- Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net [1]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan -- Links: ------ [1] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

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Newbie User
by David Elliott 18 Mar '22

18 Mar '22

Hi, I am a newbie to Mailman and cpanel and I need some help, please. I have set up a mailing list for my tennis club (about 300 on list) and it seems to work ok BUT each recipient only sees the mailing list name rather than his own email name in the 'to' box. One of the recipients recently did a 'reply to all' and consequently sent his reply to the whole mailing list. I'm sure there must be a way to prevent this but I can't find it! David Elliott

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Munge without CC or Reply-To
by Diez 22 Feb '22

22 Feb '22

Hello. I'm new at this list. I'm trying to setup a list (I'm not the site admin), and I'd like to use Munge From setting, but I'd like not have Reply-To field or CC field, but I suspect is not possible. I was testing with anonymous_list, but the problem is that only a certain member should send some kind of calls, but with anonymous_list anyone could send it. I'm setting up with 2.1.23 version. Regards and thanks in advanced and sorry for my bad english

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subscription flood, redux
by Karl Berry 31 Jul '21

31 Jul '21

I was just hit with a subscription flood, along the lines of https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2014-May/076880.html https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1082746 I've mitigated the current attack, but it's happened before and will happen again. I'm already using SUBSCRIBE_FORM_SECRET. I also saw Mark's patch in the thread above to disable subscriptions for a particular list, which is helpful. Still, trying to look ahead, I have two further questions: 1) The above mailman-users thread refers to using fail2ban. This sounds sensible. Does anyone have a a working fail2ban filter they can share for this? I'd rather not write one from scratch; my previous attempts at doing so have been rather uneven. (Not the easiest thing to search for, since fail2ban itself uses mailman for its mailing lists, it seems. I couldn't find anything, at any rate.) 2) At least in my cases, the floods try to subscribe the same address over and over (and over and ...). It occurs to me that mailman could silently discard a request to subscribe an address foo(a)bar.com if foo(a)bar.com already has a pending subscription -- that is, not sending out the confirmation request. Would this be doable? Mark, anyone? Although I realize that has downsides, for myself at least I'd prefer to minimize the backscatter pain for the random targeted addresses. Real people who are failing to subscribe can write the owner. Thanks in advance, Karl

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List Posting Issue
by Brian Canty 20 Jul '21

20 Jul '21

Hi I was wondering if someone can help with my issue. I am a client of EMWD - (RIP Brian). I recently switched to Office 365 platform and none of my posts are working. Does anyone have any ideas of how I can resolve this? Thanks in advance. Brian Canty American Psychoanalytic Association

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Feature Request - Show Member Name but not email address
by Gregory Beyer 20 Jul '21

20 Jul '21

Hello, I have a feature request for MailMan. Would you please add to the Privacy Options section, Membership Exposure, an option to show only the member name, but keep their email address hidden from the member list, that non-admin members may view? I'd like my members to see who, by name, is on the list, but not divulge their email addresses./ / Mark Sapiro informed the list that "You can do this, but only by modifying the FormatUsers method in Mailman/HTMLFormatter.py." Unfortunately, MailMan admins on shared hosting do not have direct access to Mailman files. If this option were added to Membership Exposure, we could set this option without necessity for direct file access. Further, my hosting provider will not modify that file just for me, as there are likely hundreds of other Mailman users, using the same installation as I. Thank you. -- *__________________________________ Gregory Beyer *greg(a)beyerusa.net

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MM 2.1 - How to show member name, but not member address in member list
by greg＠beyerusa.net 19 Jul '21

19 Jul '21

Hi, is it possible to show only the member name, but keep their email address hidden from the member list, that non-admin members may view? I'd like my members to see who, by name, is on the list, but not divulge their email addresses. The hide flag on membership management hides everything. Thanks, Greg

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Is there a way to get a list of all list admins?
by Steven Jones 16 Jul '21

16 Jul '21

I am moving mailman off rhel6 to rhel8 Is there a way to extract list admins on the command line so I can notify them? regards Steven

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Need The URL for the Current Install Instructions For Mailman 2
by temp590＠dsh.twilightparadox.com 14 Jul '21

14 Jul '21

I am looking for the install instructions for Mailman 2.1 to assist me in doing a new install of Mailman 2.1.34. When I go to https://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/ and click on documentation, the only choice is for Mailman Suite (3). There are no guides for Mailman 2. I also went to the wiki and there is a guide "How_to_Install_Mailman3_on_Debian10" but nothing that I could find on doing a new install for the current download of Mailman 2.1 on Debian 10. Is there a link somewhere that I am missing? It seems to me that I have seen one in the past.

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