Mailman-Users November 2020

mailman-users@python.org

21 participants
21 discussions

by nikos

Hello list. I'm receiving a lot of fake Subscription Requests and spend time to discard them. 1. how can I "lock" lists not to receive requests except administrator's mass subscription? 2. how can I mass discard those request from console? Thank you in advance, Nikos.

4 months, 3 weeks

Add "sender's name/email" to BODY of mail as header?

by Mal

I want all mails sent to the list to come from the list's email address... But, in this case, if the user forgets to sign their name at the bottom of their mail body, effectively the mail to the list is anonymous...! Is there a way to add the user name (or email address) to the top of each mail so that the mails have the name of the sender, while the mail itself comes from the list address? I have looked high and low for an answer, but noone seems to have the solution. Thank you! Mal

8 months

Non-member regexps

by Daniel Krause

Good Day We are using mailman 3, and would like to whitelist a domain for acceptance of messages as non-members. It seems possible from my online searches, I have also tried with an online python regex tester(https://www.regextester.com/94044), but I have not managed to be successful. Below are 2 examples I have tried ^.+(a)noldor\.co\.za$ ^[a-zA-Z0-9_.+-]+@(?:(?:[a-zA-Z0-9-]+\.)?[a-zA-Z]+\.)?noldor\.co\.za$ ^.+(a)gmail.com$ ^.*gmail\.com$ Regards -- *Daniel Krause* *Head of IT* *Office: **+27 87 238 4238* <0872384238> *Mobile : **+971 55 418 4733* <0971554184733> *Email: **daniel(a)noldor.co.za* <daniel(a)noldor.co.za> *Web: **www.noldor.co.za* <http://www.noldor.co.za/>

8 months, 1 week

From Format

by Dennis Putnam

I have mailman 2.1.34 running on both RHEL 7 and CentOS 7. When mail arrives from CentOS 7 the from header reads: {sender's name} via {list name} <email address> I don't know what I did to get that format. When mail arrives from RHEL 7 the from header has just some text. I'd like the RHEL 7 from header to be the same but I cannot find how to do that. Can someone point me in the right direction? TIA. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

10 months, 4 weeks

Re: Migrating Mailman lists from one server to another

by Mark Sapiro

On 11/22/20 5:51 AM, Tony Stocker wrote: > On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 12:47 PM Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: >> >> Basically, just "copy and paste" the /var/lib/mailman/lists directory >> from the old machine to the new. Also see <https://wiki.list.org/x/4030682>. >> > Will doing this also copy the config files that maintain the passwords > for the various lists? So that our mailing list maintainers will be > able to login as normal to manage things? What about the password > that's used to create new mailing lists? Will it be copied as well > when I copy that directory? Assuming you don't use some kind of custom MemberAdaptor, all list specific settings including list admin and moderator passwords, list membership, member options, etc. are in the lists/LISTNAME/config.pck file. The site admin and list creator passwords are files defined as SITE_PW_FILE and LISTCREATOR_PW_FILE in Defaults.py/mm_cfg.py. The defaults for these are /var/lib/mailman/data/adm.pw and /var/lib/mailman/data/creator.pw. Also in /var/lib/mailman/data/ are aliases and maybe virtual mappings for Mailman-Postfix integration, but these can be updated on the new server by running Mailman's bin/genaliases after moving the lists/* files. Other thinggs in data/ are installation specific and should not be moved. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

11 months

Migrating Mailman lists from one server to another

by Tony Stocker

We are in the process of upgrading our mailing server with a new machine. This system is also running an updated version of the operating system (RHEL-8 vs RHEL-6.) We have numerous Mailman mailing lists, along with their associated configurations, and archives. Fortunately, the archives are located on a networked file system, so we don't have to move those files. However, I would like to be able to just "copy and paste", if you will, the entire configuration from one server to the other so that we don't have to reconfigure anything. Is this possible? If so, are there any detailed instructions for it posted anywhere? Thanks! -- Tony Stocker

11 months

mailman3 installation

by Christian Stalberg

Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS / apache 2.4.41 / postfix 3.4.13 I am following the installation guidance at https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#setup-virtualenv Question: where should I place the available <https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-suite/tree/master> mailman-suite repo in my filesystem?

11 months

Removal of Line Breaks in Replies to Digest Messages

by Michael Reeder LCPC -- Hygeia Regular

Okay, upon reflection I think I figured out what happened here. I replied to an existing thread but deleted the entirety of the message thread and changed the subject entirely. I thought that started a new message thread but perhaps the list software registers that as a reply to an existing thread. I organize my email client by date and not by thread so I would not see this. Apologizes to all if this is the case. I'm told by my list subscriber the following: a. He thinks that the Digest message formatting is messed-up as it originally comes from the list, but he is not sure (reply messages might be messing up the formatting). b. He is using iPhone and Outlook for Apple email clients. c. He is also experiencing quote marks (") and apostrophes (') being turned into question marks (?) throughout the text of digest messages. Is this mess a function of his Apple email clients, or a problem that rests with the Mailman list management software? Thanks, Michael *Michael Reeder, LCPC * *Hygeia Counseling Services : Baltimore / Mt. Washington Village location* *410-205-2419 / michael(at)hygeiacounseling.com* *http://www.hygeiacounseling.com - main website. * On 11/17/2020 9:21 PM, Michael Reeder LCPC -- Hygeia Regular wrote: > Mark -- I very much appreciate your answer below. I'll work on the > (nearly impossible) task of training users to respond to digests > properly and also explain to people that the Mailman list mgmt > software can't control formatting screw-ups by email client programs. > > I agree with not hijacking threads... What hijack? Looks to me like > I started a new topic. Right?? > > Thanks, > Michael Reeder > michael(a)hygeiacounseling.com > > > On 11/17/2020 2:32 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> On 11/16/20 10:36 PM, Michael Reeder LCPC -- Hygeia Regular wrote: >>> Hello All, >> >> Please don't hijack threads. When you want to post a new topic, don't do >> it by replying to another post, just compose a ney message to the list. >> >> >>> I am running a listserv which was recently moved to GNU Mailman 2.1.23 >>> on a Dream Host server (I assume UNIX). I am encountering the >>> following >>> problem: >> >> Please see <https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%20is%20not%20Listserv>. >> >> >>> Replies to Digest messages (both MIME and plain text) sometimes have >>> line breaks stripped from them. We have seen this so far with both a >>> version of Microsoft Outlook and an email client program for an Android >>> phone. As far as I know, the digest messages themselves originally all >>> look fine when sent from the listserv. >>> >>> Anyone know if there is anything I can do about this? >> >> Use a different mail client that doesn't do this. Otherwse, there's >> nothing you can do to control what users mail clients do. >> >> >>> Bonus Question: I do not have command prompt access -- only admin >>> panel >>> access (listserv software is implemented through Dream Host). >>> Anything I >>> can do from the admin panel? What would I ask Dream Host to change? >> >> There is no change to the digests themselves that would mitigate this >> issue without breaking the way the original digests render. >> >> Further, people shouldn't be replying to a digest. For a MIME format >> digest, they should open the individual message and reply to that. For >> the plain digest, they should just copy/paste relevant context from the >> digest into a new post to the list. Of course, training list members to >> do that is probably not possible ... >>

11 months

Removal of Line Breaks in Replies to Digest Messages

by Michael Reeder LCPC

Okay, upon reflection I think I figured out what happened here. I replied to an existing thread but deleted the entirety of the message thread and changed the subject entirely. I thought that started a new message thread but perhaps the list software registers that as a reply to an existing thread. I organize my email client by date and not by thread so I would not see this. Apologizes to all if this is the case. I'm told by my list subscriber the following: a. He thinks that the Digest message formatting is messed-up as it originally comes from the list, but he is not sure (reply messages might be messing up the formatting). b. He is using iPhone and Outlook for Apple email clients. c. He is also experiencing quote marks (") and apostrophes (') being turned into question marks (?) throughout the text of digest messages. Is this mess a function of his Apple email clients, or a problem that rests with the Mailman list management software? Thanks, Michael Michael Reeder, LCPC Hygeia Counseling Services : Baltimore / Mt. Washington Village location 410-205-2419 / michael(at)hygeiacounseling.com http://www.hygeiacounseling.com - main website. On 11/17/2020 9:21 PM, Michael Reeder LCPC -- Hygeia Regular wrote: Mark -- I very much appreciate your answer below. I'll work on the (nearly impossible) task of training users to respond to digests properly and also explain to people that the Mailman list mgmt software can't control formatting screw-ups by email client programs. I agree with not hijacking threads... What hijack? Looks to me like I started a new topic. Right?? Thanks, Michael Reeder michael(a)hygeiacounseling.com On 11/17/2020 2:32 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 11/16/20 10:36 PM, Michael Reeder LCPC -- Hygeia Regular wrote: Hello All, Please don't hijack threads. When you want to post a new topic, don't do it by replying to another post, just compose a ney message to the list. I am running a listserv which was recently moved to GNU Mailman 2.1.23 on a Dream Host server (I assume UNIX). I am encountering the following problem: Please see <https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%20is%20not%20Listserv>. Replies to Digest messages (both MIME and plain text) sometimes have line breaks stripped from them. We have seen this so far with both a version of Microsoft Outlook and an email client program for an Android phone. As far as I know, the digest messages themselves originally all look fine when sent from the listserv. Anyone know if there is anything I can do about this? Use a different mail client that doesn't do this. Otherwse, there's nothing you can do to control what users mail clients do. Bonus Question: I do not have command prompt access -- only admin panel access (listserv software is implemented through Dream Host). Anything I can do from the admin panel? What would I ask Dream Host to change? There is no change to the digests themselves that would mitigate this issue without breaking the way the original digests render. Further, people shouldn't be replying to a digest. For a MIME format digest, they should open the individual message and reply to that. For the plain digest, they should just copy/paste relevant context from the digest into a new post to the list. Of course, training list members to do that is probably not possible ...

11 months, 1 week

CPU %-usage surge associated with list archives

by Onyeibo Oku

Hello everyone, I am observing increased CPU(%) usage whenever a Mailman User Service runs. The journal tells me that SELinux is preventing httpd from map access on the file /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/<list>/<date>/<page>.html. A setroubleshoot service follows. This cycle repeats quickly, resulting in a surge in CPU (%) usage. Why am I getting AVC denials {map} associated with list archives? Any ideas on how I should stabilize this? Regards Onyeibo

11 months, 1 week