Mailman 3 January 2022 - Mailman-Users

Editing Mailman's text files
by Pete Bell 08 May '24

08 May '24

Hi. I'm a new member of this group but have been running an email list with Mailman for a long time. I am now setting a list up again and want to give a "look and feel" to the list which has more branding of my user group as a whole, and less of a Mailman-feel. I seem to remember that besides editing the public HTML pages, it is possible to edit the text files which Mailman automatically sends out for certain needs (such as 'approve.txt', 'adminsubscribeack.txt', 'invite.txt', and so on). A. Is this still the case? B. If so, where can I find them? (in case they've changed from the ones I have from long ago). C. Where do they need putting, so that Mailman can use them again? It's important that I should tell you that Mailman on my webhosts servers is a "server-wide" installation, and I don't get to edit anything which other clients to their servers need. This would be only for my own use, and as such I need to know where these files go in my own webspace, and how to get Mailman to use them instead of the default ones. I should also say that I have done this before, so unless the facility to do this has been ditched in recent years, I *should* still be able to do it ! Does Mailman perhaps look for these files somewhere in my webspace (which I have to give a specific name), and if it doesn't find them it goes on to find its default versions of these files? Thanks in advance for your help. Pete Bell, UK

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Running two list with same email prefix
by Andrea Cappelli 27 Feb '24

27 Feb '24

Hi all, I'm running a mail server with Debian Lenny, MTA is Postfix and i will use postfix-to-mailma.py script to run list I would set up Mailman for running mailing list with same email prefix on different domains, obvious with different list names For example we have ml.domain1.com and ml.domain2.net, i would like to have LISTADDRESS LISTNAME tech(a)ml.domain1.com tech-ml.domain1.com tech(a)ml.domain.2.net tech-ml.domain2.net In this way i can have the same address on differente domains and Mailman (my version is 2.1.11) can distinguish between lists because the list name is different. The list name will be also used to access web interface, so we have http://ml.domain1.com/mailman/admin/tech-ml.domain1.com http://ml.domain2.net/mailman/admin/tech-ml.domain2.net Is possible to accomplish this task? Any idea?

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Hide list address?
by Ricardo Kleemann 17 Nov '23

17 Nov '23

Hi, Is there any way to configure Mailman such that, for an announcement-only type list, when a message is sent to the list, the To: shows the member's address, rather than the list address? Some list software allows the ability to hide the list address itself, so that address is not advertised. I couldn't find any configuration specific to that.

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Using cronjob to remove and add members to a mailing list
by Jerry Barnabee 10 Aug '22

10 Aug '22

I want to be able to run a cronjob on my server that uses a php script to add new users and/or remove users from a mailing list. Not having any luck finding any simple examples. My thought is that the php script would get email addresses from a database (which I can do) and then feed them to a mailman command line to either add or remove a user. The cronjob is entered via Cpanel. Have several cronjobs that modify databases but have never tried something that would actually execute a unix command. Thanks, Pineyscripter

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Problem with outlook.com
by nikos 15 Jun '22

15 Jun '22

Hello list. For some reason none of hotmail or outlook users don't receive any of our newsletter. Finally all of them auto unsubscribe. The following is an error received form protection.outlook.com: Remote Server returned '550 5.6.0 CAT.InvalidContent.Exception: ExchangeDataException, Decoding of header Subject failed+ADs- raw value: +AFs-Ps+AF0- +AD0-?iso8859-7?b?wer98fnz5yDF8OX05enh6t7yIOXq5N7r+-fPn8iDz9Oft?+AD0-; cannot handle content of message That happened since September 10th this year. Before, all received without problem. Any suggestions? Thank you in advance. Nikos.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Automate Moderator Functions
by Andre de Azevedo Cunha 18 Apr '22

18 Apr '22

Hi, i`m trying to reject messages bigger then MAX_MESSAGE_SIZE. I configured my Hold.py was described bellow: replaced hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, _ MessageTooBig(bodylen,_mlist.max_message_size)) with rej = MessageTooBig(bodylen, mlist.max_message_size) _ raise Errors.RejectMessage, rej.reason_notice_ The message was rejected, but the sender dont receive any notify about that. The mailman vette log too. How can i solve this? Thanks, André Dennis Putnam wrote: > >I am getting back to this and I have a question about maintenance. What >is the correct way to modify this so that it will not get destroyed by >updates? There are two ways to proceed. You can modify Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py itself, but before overwriting it, make a "diff -u" between the base Hold.py and your modified version to use as a patch to apply after any upgrade. A better way is to leave Hold.py unchanged and make your own edited version as say Mailman/Handlers/MyHold.py. Then you can replace the base Hold.py Module with your MyHold.py by putting GLOBAL_PIPELINE[GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold')] = 'MyHold' in mm_cfg.py. Note that if you are going to do this, and you want also to move MimeDel before Hold, you must either put the above line after the lines GLOBAL_PIPELINE.remove('MimeDel') GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') in mm_cfg.py or put it before, but then also change GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') to GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('MyHold'), 'MimeDel') I recommend the former as in # # Put MimeDel ahead of Hold so "too big" is based on content filtered # message. # GLOBAL_PIPELINE.remove('MimeDel') GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') # # Replace Hold with local version # GLOBAL_PIPELINE[GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold')] = 'MyHold' Since mm_cfg.py survives upgrades, this should survive. >Also does this same procedure apply to other automatic rejections such >as implicit destination? >On 9/24/2012 8:43 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> To automatically reject or discard messages that exceed the list's size >> limit, find the section of the Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py that ends with >> the lines >> >> >> if bodylen/1024.0 > mlist.max_message_size: >> hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, >> MessageTooBig(bodylen, >> mlist.max_message_size)) >> # no return >> >> (there is one wrapped line in the above) and replace >> >> hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, >> MessageTooBig(bodylen, >> mlist.max_message_size)) >> >> with >> >> rej = MessageTooBig(bodylen, mlist.max_message_size)) >> raise Errors.RejectMessage, rej.reason_notice >> >> to reject the message or with >> >> raise Errors.DiscardMessage >> >> to discard the message. Note that this will not honor the list's >> forward_auto_discards setting. to do that you would need to put >> >> from Mailman.Handlers.Moderate import do_discard >> >> with the other imports near the beginning of the >> Mailman.Handlers.hold.py module and then replace the lines with >> >> do_discard(mlist, msg) Yes, similar changes would apply to other holds in Hold.py. -- Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net [1]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan -- Links: ------ [1] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

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Newbie User
by David Elliott 17 Mar '22

17 Mar '22

Hi, I am a newbie to Mailman and cpanel and I need some help, please. I have set up a mailing list for my tennis club (about 300 on list) and it seems to work ok BUT each recipient only sees the mailing list name rather than his own email name in the 'to' box. One of the recipients recently did a 'reply to all' and consequently sent his reply to the whole mailing list. I'm sure there must be a way to prevent this but I can't find it! David Elliott

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Munge without CC or Reply-To
by Diez 22 Feb '22

22 Feb '22

Hello. I'm new at this list. I'm trying to setup a list (I'm not the site admin), and I'd like to use Munge From setting, but I'd like not have Reply-To field or CC field, but I suspect is not possible. I was testing with anonymous_list, but the problem is that only a certain member should send some kind of calls, but with anonymous_list anyone could send it. I'm setting up with 2.1.23 version. Regards and thanks in advanced and sorry for my bad english

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migration from mailman 2 to 3
by Lucio Chiappetti 31 Jan '22

31 Jan '22

One of the lists of which I am a co-moderator has been moved from mailman 2 to 3. While the administrator of the mailman site (not local) has directed us to https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/migration.html, I find there guides for system administrators and members but I do not find an equivalent of the http://list.org/mailman-admin/index.html "List Administration Manual" ... ... in particular I'd like a checklist between the old "keywords" (e.g hold_these_nonmembers) and new equivalent ones (which seems "unnamed" in mailman 3) ... at least in the form of "under which new web page to look for a configuration item which was in a given old web page") Does anything like that exist ? Thanks Lucio Chiappetti

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Tracking -owner notification emails
by Bruce Johnson 26 Jan '22

26 Jan '22

I have a mailing list where the moderators are not recieving notifications of held messages. Our email system is complex, but the list server (running postfix) relays through our SMTP server; our incoming email server is an in-the-cloud Barracuda spam and email security service, and end delivery it to O365 mailboxes. My test email list, of course, works as expected as do the other lists on this server; and the setup for this particular list doesn’t look different than other lists like it. :-( This is the mail log for the arrivale and dispostion of the test (moderated) message: Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/smtpd[2120]: connect from localhost.localdomain[::1] Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/smtpd[2120]: E0AAF16006A: client=localhost.localdomain[::1] Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/cleanup[2123]: E0AAF16006A: message-id=<mailman.5289.1643152728.2706.pharmtox_faculty(a)pharmacy.arizona.edu<mailto:mailman.5289.1643152728.2706.pharmtox_faculty@pharmacy.arizona.edu>> Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/qmgr[16969]: E0AAF16006A: from=<pharmtox_faculty-bounces(a)pharmacy.arizona.edu<mailto:pharmtox_faculty-bounces@pharmacy.arizona.edu>>, size=1426, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/smtpd[2120]: disconnect from localhost.localdomain[::1] Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/smtpd[2120]: connect from localhost.localdomain[::1] Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/smtpd[2120]: E2F4B160ADE: client=localhost.localdomain[::1] Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/cleanup[2123]: E2F4B160ADE: message-id=<mailman.5291.1643152728.2706.pharmtox_faculty(a)pharmacy.arizona.edu<mailto:mailman.5291.1643152728.2706.pharmtox_faculty@pharmacy.arizona.edu>> Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/qmgr[16969]: E2F4B160ADE: from=<pharmtox_faculty-bounces(a)pharmacy.arizona.edu<mailto:pharmtox_faculty-bounces@pharmacy.arizona.edu>>, size=13239, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/smtpd[2120]: disconnect from localhost.localdomain[::1] I can see the message in the Mailman vette log Jan 25 16:18:48 2022 (2706) PharmTox_Faculty post from bjohnson(a)arizona.edu<mailto:bjohnson@arizona.edu> held, message-id=<054EC6B4-9607-4A04-968B-E93DEAF934D9(a)email.arizona.edu<mailto:054EC6B4-9607-4A04-968B-E93DEAF934D9@email.arizona.edu>>: Post by non-member to a members-only list But I cannot find a record of Mailman sending the messages to the moderators. How do I find those so I can find the message ID’s to track them? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs

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