Mailman-Users January 2022

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Problem with outlook.com
by nikos 15 Jun '22

15 Jun '22

Hello list. For some reason none of hotmail or outlook users don't receive any of our newsletter. Finally all of them auto unsubscribe. The following is an error received form protection.outlook.com: Remote Server returned '550 5.6.0 CAT.InvalidContent.Exception: ExchangeDataException, Decoding of header Subject failed+ADs- raw value: +AFs-Ps+AF0- +AD0-?iso8859-7?b?wer98fnz5yDF8OX05enh6t7yIOXq5N7r+-fPn8iDz9Oft?+AD0-; cannot handle content of message That happened since September 10th this year. Before, all received without problem. Any suggestions? Thank you in advance. Nikos.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Automate Moderator Functions
by Andre de Azevedo Cunha 18 Apr '22

18 Apr '22

Hi, i`m trying to reject messages bigger then MAX_MESSAGE_SIZE. I configured my Hold.py was described bellow: replaced hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, _ MessageTooBig(bodylen,_mlist.max_message_size)) with rej = MessageTooBig(bodylen, mlist.max_message_size) _ raise Errors.RejectMessage, rej.reason_notice_ The message was rejected, but the sender dont receive any notify about that. The mailman vette log too. How can i solve this? Thanks, André Dennis Putnam wrote: > >I am getting back to this and I have a question about maintenance. What >is the correct way to modify this so that it will not get destroyed by >updates? There are two ways to proceed. You can modify Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py itself, but before overwriting it, make a "diff -u" between the base Hold.py and your modified version to use as a patch to apply after any upgrade. A better way is to leave Hold.py unchanged and make your own edited version as say Mailman/Handlers/MyHold.py. Then you can replace the base Hold.py Module with your MyHold.py by putting GLOBAL_PIPELINE[GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold')] = 'MyHold' in mm_cfg.py. Note that if you are going to do this, and you want also to move MimeDel before Hold, you must either put the above line after the lines GLOBAL_PIPELINE.remove('MimeDel') GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') in mm_cfg.py or put it before, but then also change GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') to GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('MyHold'), 'MimeDel') I recommend the former as in # # Put MimeDel ahead of Hold so "too big" is based on content filtered # message. # GLOBAL_PIPELINE.remove('MimeDel') GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') # # Replace Hold with local version # GLOBAL_PIPELINE[GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold')] = 'MyHold' Since mm_cfg.py survives upgrades, this should survive. >Also does this same procedure apply to other automatic rejections such >as implicit destination? >On 9/24/2012 8:43 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> To automatically reject or discard messages that exceed the list's size >> limit, find the section of the Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py that ends with >> the lines >> >> >> if bodylen/1024.0 > mlist.max_message_size: >> hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, >> MessageTooBig(bodylen, >> mlist.max_message_size)) >> # no return >> >> (there is one wrapped line in the above) and replace >> >> hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, >> MessageTooBig(bodylen, >> mlist.max_message_size)) >> >> with >> >> rej = MessageTooBig(bodylen, mlist.max_message_size)) >> raise Errors.RejectMessage, rej.reason_notice >> >> to reject the message or with >> >> raise Errors.DiscardMessage >> >> to discard the message. Note that this will not honor the list's >> forward_auto_discards setting. to do that you would need to put >> >> from Mailman.Handlers.Moderate import do_discard >> >> with the other imports near the beginning of the >> Mailman.Handlers.hold.py module and then replace the lines with >> >> do_discard(mlist, msg) Yes, similar changes would apply to other holds in Hold.py. -- Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net [1]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan -- Links: ------ [1] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

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Newbie User
by David Elliott 17 Mar '22

17 Mar '22

Hi, I am a newbie to Mailman and cpanel and I need some help, please. I have set up a mailing list for my tennis club (about 300 on list) and it seems to work ok BUT each recipient only sees the mailing list name rather than his own email name in the 'to' box. One of the recipients recently did a 'reply to all' and consequently sent his reply to the whole mailing list. I'm sure there must be a way to prevent this but I can't find it! David Elliott

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Munge without CC or Reply-To
by Diez 22 Feb '22

22 Feb '22

Hello. I'm new at this list. I'm trying to setup a list (I'm not the site admin), and I'd like to use Munge From setting, but I'd like not have Reply-To field or CC field, but I suspect is not possible. I was testing with anonymous_list, but the problem is that only a certain member should send some kind of calls, but with anonymous_list anyone could send it. I'm setting up with 2.1.23 version. Regards and thanks in advanced and sorry for my bad english

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migration from mailman 2 to 3
by Lucio Chiappetti 31 Jan '22

31 Jan '22

One of the lists of which I am a co-moderator has been moved from mailman 2 to 3. While the administrator of the mailman site (not local) has directed us to https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/migration.html, I find there guides for system administrators and members but I do not find an equivalent of the http://list.org/mailman-admin/index.html "List Administration Manual" ... ... in particular I'd like a checklist between the old "keywords" (e.g hold_these_nonmembers) and new equivalent ones (which seems "unnamed" in mailman 3) ... at least in the form of "under which new web page to look for a configuration item which was in a given old web page") Does anything like that exist ? Thanks Lucio Chiappetti

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Tracking -owner notification emails
by Bruce Johnson 25 Jan '22

25 Jan '22

I have a mailing list where the moderators are not recieving notifications of held messages. Our email system is complex, but the list server (running postfix) relays through our SMTP server; our incoming email server is an in-the-cloud Barracuda spam and email security service, and end delivery it to O365 mailboxes. My test email list, of course, works as expected as do the other lists on this server; and the setup for this particular list doesn’t look different than other lists like it. :-( This is the mail log for the arrivale and dispostion of the test (moderated) message: Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/smtpd[2120]: connect from localhost.localdomain[::1] Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/smtpd[2120]: E0AAF16006A: client=localhost.localdomain[::1] Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/cleanup[2123]: E0AAF16006A: message-id=<mailman.5289.1643152728.2706.pharmtox_faculty(a)pharmacy.arizona.edu<mailto:mailman.5289.1643152728.2706.pharmtox_faculty@pharmacy.arizona.edu>> Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/qmgr[16969]: E0AAF16006A: from=<pharmtox_faculty-bounces(a)pharmacy.arizona.edu<mailto:pharmtox_faculty-bounces@pharmacy.arizona.edu>>, size=1426, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/smtpd[2120]: disconnect from localhost.localdomain[::1] Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/smtpd[2120]: connect from localhost.localdomain[::1] Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/smtpd[2120]: E2F4B160ADE: client=localhost.localdomain[::1] Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/cleanup[2123]: E2F4B160ADE: message-id=<mailman.5291.1643152728.2706.pharmtox_faculty(a)pharmacy.arizona.edu<mailto:mailman.5291.1643152728.2706.pharmtox_faculty@pharmacy.arizona.edu>> Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/qmgr[16969]: E2F4B160ADE: from=<pharmtox_faculty-bounces(a)pharmacy.arizona.edu<mailto:pharmtox_faculty-bounces@pharmacy.arizona.edu>>, size=13239, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/smtpd[2120]: disconnect from localhost.localdomain[::1] I can see the message in the Mailman vette log Jan 25 16:18:48 2022 (2706) PharmTox_Faculty post from bjohnson(a)arizona.edu<mailto:bjohnson@arizona.edu> held, message-id=<054EC6B4-9607-4A04-968B-E93DEAF934D9(a)email.arizona.edu<mailto:054EC6B4-9607-4A04-968B-E93DEAF934D9@email.arizona.edu>>: Post by non-member to a members-only list But I cannot find a record of Mailman sending the messages to the moderators. How do I find those so I can find the message ID’s to track them? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs

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emails sitting in postfix mailq a long time
by Steven Jones 25 Jan '22

25 Jan '22

Hi, trying to figure out why there are a lot of these in postfix's mail queu, 75D752B3E0* 415295 Tue Jan 25 12:38:50 MAILER-DAEMON xxxxxx-bounces(a)lists.xxxxxx Are these bounces back into mailman? regards Steven

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Mailman data backup
by kukyayuni＠svk.jp 25 Jan '22

25 Jan '22

Hi Please tell me about Mailman backup. We want to back up our mailing list configuration data, archives, etc. without stopping the Mailman service. Can you please tell us how to do this?

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Anonymous list not anonymous
by Christian Lerrahn 23 Jan '22

23 Jan '22

Hi, I feel like this question is just my search fu failing me but since I've upgraded my anonymous lists to Mailman 3, they seem to no longer be truly anonymous any more. I never seemed to to have a problem like this on Mailman 2. The problem I have is that all emails carry an "X-MailFrom" which apparently represents the SMTP "mail from" [1]. The problem for me is that most of the time, that address is the actual sender's address and therefore discloses the sender just as much as the "From" line in the email would. What am I missing and how do I get that filtered out? Cheers, Christian [1] https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/mta/docs/b…

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Member posting to a list but address not in membership list.
by Adam Morris 12 Jan '22

12 Jan '22

I have someone who is posting to a list I run. I subscribed them originally but their address doesn't show up in the list of members so I can't change moderation status etc. Where else could I look to find their address? TIA. -- Adam Morris Mobile: 0414 431105 Email, iMessage & FaceTime adam(a)damorris.com

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