Mailman-Users February 2020

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22 discussions

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automate Moderator Functions
by Andre de Azevedo Cunha 18 Apr '22

18 Apr '22

Hi, i`m trying to reject messages bigger then MAX_MESSAGE_SIZE. I configured my Hold.py was described bellow: replaced hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, _ MessageTooBig(bodylen,_mlist.max_message_size)) with rej = MessageTooBig(bodylen, mlist.max_message_size) _ raise Errors.RejectMessage, rej.reason_notice_ The message was rejected, but the sender dont receive any notify about that. The mailman vette log too. How can i solve this? Thanks, André Dennis Putnam wrote: > >I am getting back to this and I have a question about maintenance. What >is the correct way to modify this so that it will not get destroyed by >updates? There are two ways to proceed. You can modify Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py itself, but before overwriting it, make a "diff -u" between the base Hold.py and your modified version to use as a patch to apply after any upgrade. A better way is to leave Hold.py unchanged and make your own edited version as say Mailman/Handlers/MyHold.py. Then you can replace the base Hold.py Module with your MyHold.py by putting GLOBAL_PIPELINE[GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold')] = 'MyHold' in mm_cfg.py. Note that if you are going to do this, and you want also to move MimeDel before Hold, you must either put the above line after the lines GLOBAL_PIPELINE.remove('MimeDel') GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') in mm_cfg.py or put it before, but then also change GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') to GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('MyHold'), 'MimeDel') I recommend the former as in # # Put MimeDel ahead of Hold so "too big" is based on content filtered # message. # GLOBAL_PIPELINE.remove('MimeDel') GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') # # Replace Hold with local version # GLOBAL_PIPELINE[GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold')] = 'MyHold' Since mm_cfg.py survives upgrades, this should survive. >Also does this same procedure apply to other automatic rejections such >as implicit destination? >On 9/24/2012 8:43 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> To automatically reject or discard messages that exceed the list's size >> limit, find the section of the Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py that ends with >> the lines >> >> >> if bodylen/1024.0 > mlist.max_message_size: >> hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, >> MessageTooBig(bodylen, >> mlist.max_message_size)) >> # no return >> >> (there is one wrapped line in the above) and replace >> >> hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, >> MessageTooBig(bodylen, >> mlist.max_message_size)) >> >> with >> >> rej = MessageTooBig(bodylen, mlist.max_message_size)) >> raise Errors.RejectMessage, rej.reason_notice >> >> to reject the message or with >> >> raise Errors.DiscardMessage >> >> to discard the message. Note that this will not honor the list's >> forward_auto_discards setting. to do that you would need to put >> >> from Mailman.Handlers.Moderate import do_discard >> >> with the other imports near the beginning of the >> Mailman.Handlers.hold.py module and then replace the lines with >> >> do_discard(mlist, msg) Yes, similar changes would apply to other holds in Hold.py. -- Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net [1]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan -- Links: ------ [1] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

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Newbie User
by David Elliott 18 Mar '22

18 Mar '22

Hi, I am a newbie to Mailman and cpanel and I need some help, please. I have set up a mailing list for my tennis club (about 300 on list) and it seems to work ok BUT each recipient only sees the mailing list name rather than his own email name in the 'to' box. One of the recipients recently did a 'reply to all' and consequently sent his reply to the whole mailing list. I'm sure there must be a way to prevent this but I can't find it! David Elliott

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Add "sender's name/email" to BODY of mail as header?
by Mal 17 Feb '21

17 Feb '21

I want all mails sent to the list to come from the list's email address... But, in this case, if the user forgets to sign their name at the bottom of their mail body, effectively the mail to the list is anonymous...! Is there a way to add the user name (or email address) to the top of each mail so that the mails have the name of the sender, while the mail itself comes from the list address? I have looked high and low for an answer, but noone seems to have the solution. Thank you! Mal

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Mailman CGI Error-Group mismatch error
by Wang, Mary Y 10 Sep '20

10 Sep '20

Hi, I received the following error this morning. So I rerun configure again with the following command: ./configure --with-cgi-id=apache --prefix=/var/mailman. I'm still getting the same error. Is there any place that I can look for so that I can debug this problem better? Perhaps, looking at the config history file or something. Any other places that I can check the cause of this error? "Mailman CGI error!!! The Mailman CGI wrapper encountered a fatal error. This entry is being stored in your syslog: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the CGI wrapper script to be executed as group "nobody", but the system's web server executed the CGI script as group "apache". Try tweaking the web server to run the script as group "nobody", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-cgi-gid=apache'." Thanks Mary

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Find a smtp server to send out emails
by Leon 20 Mar '20

20 Mar '20

Hi, This problem is not caused by mailman, but I still want to give it a shot here. I'm hosting a mailing list on top of mailman. Emails are supposed to be sent out by AWS ses. However, ses requires that sender address must be verified, which leads to a problem that emails sent by subscribers to mailing list cannot be sent to other subcirbers, since their addresses are not verified. And it is impossible to verified every subscriber. Are there smtp service providers allowing unverified email address to send out emails, or do I have other solutions? Thanks. Leon

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Handling Munged From Addresses
by Dennis Putnam 03 Mar '20

03 Mar '20

I think this may have been addressed but I can't find it. Now that I am munging the from address to mitigate DMARC, recipients can no longer tell who the message is from. What are other folks doing to handle that? Other than having list members add their own signature? Thanks.

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Possible Backup Issue
by Dennis Putnam 27 Feb '20

27 Feb '20

I'm not sure why I am getting these errors but it seems to be associated with backups. Is there a backup cronjob that didn't run, fail or is something else wrong? The directories do exist but not the indicated pck files. TIA Feb 25 12:02:06 2020 (14100) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 2] No such file or directory Feb 25 12:02:06 2020 (5133) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/spool/mailman/out/1582657325.390982+504a3666a91ef8722e1af700669bf0190e00417d.pck' Feb 25 12:02:06 2020 (5133) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 99, in _oneloop msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 154, in dequeue fp = open(filename) IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/spool/mailman/out/1582657325.390982+504a3666a91ef8722e1af700669bf0190e00417d.pck' Feb 25 12:02:06 2020 (5133) Skipping and preserving unparseable message: 1582657325.390982+504a3666a91ef8722e1af700669bf0190e00417d Feb 25 12:02:06 2020 (14100) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 99, in _oneloop msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 158, in dequeue os.rename(filename, backfile) OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory Feb 25 12:02:06 2020 (14100) Skipping and preserving unparseable message: 1582657325.390982+30007f7a3ce65a426ba60c1ab46d996c33d2bb9a Feb 25 12:02:06 2020 (14102) Failed to unlink/preserve backup file: /var/spool/mailman/out/1582657325.390982+504a3666a91ef8722e1af700669bf0190e00417d.bak Feb 25 12:02:07 2020 (5128) Failed to unlink/preserve backup file: /var/spool/mailman/archive/1582657325.390982+30007f7a3ce65a426ba60c1ab46d996c33d2bb9a.bak Feb 25 12:07:35 2020 (5134) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/spool/mailman/virgin/1582657654.150712+53c19a1ee899509786cc9beb40990d4c631f65d4.pck' Feb 25 12:07:35 2020 (5134) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 99, in _oneloop msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 154, in dequeue fp = open(filename) IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/spool/mailman/virgin/1582657654.150712+53c19a1ee899509786cc9beb40990d4c631f65d4.pck' Feb 25 12:07:35 2020 (5134) Skipping and preserving unparseable message: 1582657654.150712+53c19a1ee899509786cc9beb40990d4c631f65d4 Feb 25 12:07:35 2020 (14098) Failed to unlink/preserve backup file: /var/spool/mailman/virgin/1582657654.150712+53c19a1ee899509786cc9beb40990d4c631f65d4.bak Feb 25 12:29:07 2020 (14099) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 2] No such file or directory Feb 25 12:29:07 2020 (14099) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 99, in _oneloop msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 158, in dequeue os.rename(filename, backfile) OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory Feb 25 12:29:07 2020 (14099) Skipping and preserving unparseable message: 1582658947.082654+30ee2b8943fe331a15218871760c1c8d3a5d8a90 Feb 25 12:29:07 2020 (5131) Failed to unlink/preserve backup file: /var/spool/mailman/in/1582658947.082654+30ee2b8943fe331a15218871760c1c8d3a5d8a90.bak Feb 25 13:04:00 2020 (14099) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 2] No such file or directory Feb 25 13:04:00 2020 (14099) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 99, in _oneloop msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 158, in dequeue os.rename(filename, backfile) OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory Feb 25 13:04:00 2020 (14099) Skipping and preserving unparseable message: 1582661039.25433+fcd57e8ec68cce26d6ec44748d97987a885b8f3c Feb 25 13:04:00 2020 (5131) Failed to unlink/preserve backup file: /var/spool/mailman/in/1582661039.25433+fcd57e8ec68cce26d6ec44748d97987a885b8f3c.bak Feb 25 13:04:01 2020 (14104) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/spool/mailman/bounces/1582661040.887134+c53e72b90df57867b3447d0e85584d819d2f14b4.pck' Feb 25 13:04:01 2020 (14104) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 99, in _oneloop msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 154, in dequeue fp = open(filename) IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/spool/mailman/bounces/1582661040.887134+c53e72b90df57867b3447d0e85584d819d2f14b4.pck' Feb 25 13:04:01 2020 (14104) Skipping and preserving unparseable message: 1582661040.887134+c53e72b90df57867b3447d0e85584d819d2f14b4 Feb 25 13:04:01 2020 (5129) Failed to unlink/preserve backup file: /var/spool/mailman/bounces/1582661040.887134+c53e72b90df57867b3447d0e85584d819d2f14b4.bak

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Archives Permission Denied
by Dennis Putnam 26 Feb '20

26 Feb '20

I am in the process of migrating mailman to a new server. It seems to have been done correctly but mailman is unable to write to the archive files. IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/rushtalk/2020-February.txt' I ran check_perms and it found no issues. However, when I look at the ownership of the archives I get this: -rw-r--r--. 1 root mailman 72404 Feb 16 14:26 2020-February.txt Shouldn't either the owner be mailman or permissions be -rw-rw-r--? TIA.

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Membership List Include Legend Link Wrong
by Dennis Putnam 25 Feb '20

25 Feb '20

The link to include legend on the membership management page is: http://localhost.localdomain/mailman/admin/rushtalk/members/list?legend=yes Why is that not defaulting to the real host and how do I fix it? TIA.

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Mailman 2.1.30rc1 released
by Mark Sapiro 19 Feb '20

19 Feb '20

I am pleased to announce the release of Mailman 2.1.30rc1. Python 2.6 is the minimum supported, but Python 2.7 is strongly recommended. This is a routine bug fix release with a few new features. See the attached README.txt for details. Mailman 2.1.30 will be the last release of the Mailman 2.1 branch from the GNU Mailman project. It contains some new strings which are untranslated in most of the i18n translations. If you can help update any of the translations, please contribute your changes. Changes can be submitted via a bzr merge proposal on Launchpad or by sending an updated mailman.po file and or templates directly to me. This will be the last chance to get i18n updates into a release. Mailman is free software for managing email mailing lists and e-newsletters. Mailman is used for all the python.org and SourceForge.net mailing lists, as well as at hundreds of other sites. For more information, please see our web site at one of: http://www.list.org https://www.gnu.org/software/mailman http://mailman.sourceforge.net/ Mailman 2.1.30rc1 can be downloaded from https://launchpad.net/mailman/2.1/ https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/mailman/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/mailman/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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