Mailman 3 October 2011 - Mailman-Users

Hide list address?
by Ricardo Kleemann 17 Nov '23

17 Nov '23

Hi, Is there any way to configure Mailman such that, for an announcement-only type list, when a message is sent to the list, the To: shows the member's address, rather than the list address? Some list software allows the ability to hide the list address itself, so that address is not advertised. I couldn't find any configuration specific to that.

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Add "sender's name/email" to BODY of mail as header?
by Mal 17 Feb '21

17 Feb '21

I want all mails sent to the list to come from the list's email address... But, in this case, if the user forgets to sign their name at the bottom of their mail body, effectively the mail to the list is anonymous...! Is there a way to add the user name (or email address) to the top of each mail so that the mails have the name of the sender, while the mail itself comes from the list address? I have looked high and low for an answer, but noone seems to have the solution. Thank you! Mal

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Mailman CGI Error-Group mismatch error
by Wang, Mary Y 10 Sep '20

10 Sep '20

Hi, I received the following error this morning. So I rerun configure again with the following command: ./configure --with-cgi-id=apache --prefix=/var/mailman. I'm still getting the same error. Is there any place that I can look for so that I can debug this problem better? Perhaps, looking at the config history file or something. Any other places that I can check the cause of this error? "Mailman CGI error!!! The Mailman CGI wrapper encountered a fatal error. This entry is being stored in your syslog: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the CGI wrapper script to be executed as group "nobody", but the system's web server executed the CGI script as group "apache". Try tweaking the web server to run the script as group "nobody", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-cgi-gid=apache'." Thanks Mary

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bounces not getting through for processing
by Anne Wainwright 15 Nov '11

15 Nov '11

Hi, Sorry if this is a bit vague. I give an excerpt from a log file today. One of many with slightly different wordings depending on which server was responding. Some reporting me as 'exceeding the limit for bounced messages'. Oct 30 16:02:39 jason postfix/smtp[11547]: B6883E81A7: to=<fables-list-bounces+dmorris=inext.co.za(a)fables.co.za>, relay=smtp.isdsl.net[196.26.208.193]:25, conn_use=5, delay=45, delays=0.02/0/0.24/45, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host smtp.isdsl.net[196.26.208.193] said: 550 Sorry, I don't accept bounce messages with a invalid recipient. (in reply to RCPT TO command)) (some of the bounce addresses _were_ valid, I checked one, got an answer back from the addressee, but that could be a different issue) Verp is on as you can see. But on a run last week without verp we were left in the same situation as described here. There were a lot similar to this. I note that get_bounce_info shows no bounce information when I ran it after the run. anne@jason:~ ssh$ sudo /usr/lib/mailman/bin/withlist -r get_bounce_info fables-list Importing get_bounce_info... Running get_bounce_info.get_bounce_info()... Loading list fables-list (unlocked) Bounce info for fables-list list ------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------ Finalizing ditto bounce results for a small test list as well which has deliberate dud addresses on. Further, since I am running this through a relay, the relevant email account fables-list-bounces@ shows no activity whatsoever today. No bounce mail passed through there. Not a doubt that I should have had a lot of bounces on this list which has been dormant for months, and the log file did show plenty. Any idea where I might find the holdup? I suspect either the postfix configuration or something to do with the smtp relay isp. I don't think the bounces get back to the isp email account, are then not downloaded, are then not processed. ??? regards Anne

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problem sending multiple listserv commands via email
by Christine Cubillo 01 Nov '11

01 Nov '11

I am having a problem sending multiple subscribe commands via email. The first command in my list is always processed but the remaining commands are always unprocessed or ignored. Thanks in advance for any help. ***Message Sent: subscribe MyPassword nodigest address=email1(a)someaddress.com subscribe MyPassword nodigest address=email2(a)someaddress.com subscribe MyPassword nodigest address=email3(a)someaddress.com ***Response Received: - Results: Usage: unsubscribe [password] [address=<address>] Unsubscribe from the mailing list. If given, your password must match your current password. If omitted, a confirmation email will be sent to the unsubscribing address. If you wish to unsubscribe an address other than the address you sent this request from, you may specify `address=<address>' (no brackets around the email address, and no quotes!) - Unprocessed: subscribe MyPassword nodigest address=email2(a)someaddress.com subscribe MyPassword nodigest address=email3(a)someaddress.com - Done.

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Implicit Address rehash
by Steve Campbell 01 Nov '11

01 Nov '11

I've set up a mail list with the name "Cn-dailydeals" that resides on a certain server. Our Interactive department has written a php script that sends an email to this list that continuously gets held due to the "implicit address" stuff. Posts to the list back in December of 2007 suggested I could create an alias to get around the problem. I've tried every which way to create the regexp that will match this but am failing terribly. The sender is getting the following back from the post: Your mail to 'Cn-dailydeals' with the subject Gazette-Mail Daily Deal Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Message has implicit destination Can someone suggest a proper regexp to match this, and do I need the "@server" part in the alias? I've tried using escapes and everyting, but nothing seems to work. Thanks for any help steve campbell

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Is there a demo
by andy＠safermail.co.uk 29 Oct '11

29 Oct '11

Is there a live demo of MailMan ?

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Blocking messages from kijiji
by francis picabia 28 Oct '11

28 Oct '11

Hello, We run a mailing list for staff which should not receive email from outside of the list membership. The only non-member address allowed to post is another mailing list. Today we received a post from post(a)kijiji.ca and it made it through to the list. I see this in the post log file: Oct 26 18:21:41 2011 (2999) post to fyi from post(a)kijiji.ca, size=5293, message-id=<1190302152.2079281319664066415.JavaMail.root@kj-classy012>, success We've tested this with a second small membership and restricted mailing list for our IT staff, and again a post from kijiji gets through. If we email from a gmail account or something, it is blocked as expected. In kijiji interface, they allow you to set up the sender, and this is likely passing the test for the sender, but it is only the sender in the envelope, which isn't reported in mailman (nor Postfix in what I saw). We've been running the same mailman 2.1.9 from Redhat for a few years and there has never been a problem like this before. I think we would prefer if both the sender From: and the envelope sender had to match, or had to both be allowed to post. Adding the post(a)kijiji.ca address to the rejected senders did not block them, which isn't surprising as it is looking at the other subscribed sender. Anyone else have experiences with that or suggested approaches?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Blocking messages from kijiji (SENDER_HEADERS solution interferes with logging?)
by francis picabia 28 Oct '11

28 Oct '11

On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:07 AM, francis picabia <fpicabia(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 9:54 AM, francis picabia <fpicabia(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 9:37 AM, francis picabia <fpicabia(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> We run a mailing list for staff which should not >>> receive email from outside of the list membership. >>> >>> The only non-member address allowed to post is >>> another mailing list. >>> >>> Today we received a post from post(a)kijiji.ca >>> and it made it through to the list. >>> >>> I see this in the post log file: >>> >>> Oct 26 18:21:41 2011 (2999) post to fyi from post(a)kijiji.ca, >>> size=5293, message-id=<1190302152.2079281319664066415.JavaMail.root@kj-classy012>, >>> success >>> >>> We've tested this with a second small membership and restricted >>> mailing list for our IT staff, and again a post from kijiji gets through. >>> >>> If we email from a gmail account or something, it is blocked as expected. >>> >>> In kijiji interface, they allow you to set up the sender, and this is >>> likely passing the test for the sender, but it is only >>> the sender in the envelope, which isn't reported in mailman >>> (nor Postfix in what I saw). >>> >>> We've been running the same mailman 2.1.9 from Redhat for >>> a few years and there has never been a problem like this before. >>> >>> I think we would prefer if both the sender From: and the envelope >>> sender had to match, or had to both be allowed to post. >>> >>> Adding the post(a)kijiji.ca address to the rejected senders did not block them, >>> which isn't surprising as it is looking at the other subscribed sender. >>> >>> Anyone else have experiences with that or suggested approaches? >>> >> >> I looked at older postings in this mailing list and it appears this is >> a solution: >> >> Quoting Mark Sapiro: >> >>> If this is your Mailman installation, you could try putting >>> >>> SENDER_HEADERS = (None,) >>> >>> in mm_cfg.py. This would say that the post is considered to be from a >>> member only if the envelope sender is a member." >> >> I'll try this. >> > > On second thought what we needed is similar, but probably: > > SENDER_HEADERS = ('from') > > Would there be problems "from" this? > > For internal emails we already use canonical_maps in > postfix to standardize the from address into something > predictable. > This works, but of course it has caught someone using another unconventional list with a problem of the sort: "but it always worked this way before". I check out the /var/log/maillog area for signs the user is caught by this change, but oddly, nothing is appearing in the logs. It appears than restricting the SENDER_HEADERS this way causes no logging on the mailman end. Is there a way to fix this?

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Virtual Hosting Query
by Drew Ferguson 28 Oct '11

28 Oct '11

Hi I am trying to get virtual hosting working in Mailman 2.1.14 with Postfix Documentation at http://list.org/mailman-install/postfix-virtual.html specifies setting POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS to list the virtual domains required in mm_cfg.py However, doing this does not seem to have the desired effect with list creation reporting Error: Unknown virtual host on create list Google points to an old mail http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-February/034943.html which says to put a line like add_virtualhost('web.domain.com','smtp.domain.com') in mm_cfg.py and doing so allows the creation of the list Have I missed something fundamental or should this be in the documentation? Ta -- Drew

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