Mailman 3 April 2015 - Mailman-Users

Editing Mailman's text files
by Pete Bell 08 May '24

08 May '24

Hi. I'm a new member of this group but have been running an email list with Mailman for a long time. I am now setting a list up again and want to give a "look and feel" to the list which has more branding of my user group as a whole, and less of a Mailman-feel. I seem to remember that besides editing the public HTML pages, it is possible to edit the text files which Mailman automatically sends out for certain needs (such as 'approve.txt', 'adminsubscribeack.txt', 'invite.txt', and so on). A. Is this still the case? B. If so, where can I find them? (in case they've changed from the ones I have from long ago). C. Where do they need putting, so that Mailman can use them again? It's important that I should tell you that Mailman on my webhosts servers is a "server-wide" installation, and I don't get to edit anything which other clients to their servers need. This would be only for my own use, and as such I need to know where these files go in my own webspace, and how to get Mailman to use them instead of the default ones. I should also say that I have done this before, so unless the facility to do this has been ditched in recent years, I *should* still be able to do it ! Does Mailman perhaps look for these files somewhere in my webspace (which I have to give a specific name), and if it doesn't find them it goes on to find its default versions of these files? Thanks in advance for your help. Pete Bell, UK

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Running two list with same email prefix
by Andrea Cappelli 27 Feb '24

27 Feb '24

Hi all, I'm running a mail server with Debian Lenny, MTA is Postfix and i will use postfix-to-mailma.py script to run list I would set up Mailman for running mailing list with same email prefix on different domains, obvious with different list names For example we have ml.domain1.com and ml.domain2.net, i would like to have LISTADDRESS LISTNAME tech(a)ml.domain1.com tech-ml.domain1.com tech(a)ml.domain.2.net tech-ml.domain2.net In this way i can have the same address on differente domains and Mailman (my version is 2.1.11) can distinguish between lists because the list name is different. The list name will be also used to access web interface, so we have http://ml.domain1.com/mailman/admin/tech-ml.domain1.com http://ml.domain2.net/mailman/admin/tech-ml.domain2.net Is possible to accomplish this task? Any idea?

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Hide list address?
by Ricardo Kleemann 17 Nov '23

17 Nov '23

Hi, Is there any way to configure Mailman such that, for an announcement-only type list, when a message is sent to the list, the To: shows the member's address, rather than the list address? Some list software allows the ability to hide the list address itself, so that address is not advertised. I couldn't find any configuration specific to that.

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Add "sender's name/email" to BODY of mail as header?
by Mal 17 Feb '21

17 Feb '21

I want all mails sent to the list to come from the list's email address... But, in this case, if the user forgets to sign their name at the bottom of their mail body, effectively the mail to the list is anonymous...! Is there a way to add the user name (or email address) to the top of each mail so that the mails have the name of the sender, while the mail itself comes from the list address? I have looked high and low for an answer, but noone seems to have the solution. Thank you! Mal

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Mailman CGI Error-Group mismatch error
by Wang, Mary Y 10 Sep '20

10 Sep '20

Hi, I received the following error this morning. So I rerun configure again with the following command: ./configure --with-cgi-id=apache --prefix=/var/mailman. I'm still getting the same error. Is there any place that I can look for so that I can debug this problem better? Perhaps, looking at the config history file or something. Any other places that I can check the cause of this error? "Mailman CGI error!!! The Mailman CGI wrapper encountered a fatal error. This entry is being stored in your syslog: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the CGI wrapper script to be executed as group "nobody", but the system's web server executed the CGI script as group "apache". Try tweaking the web server to run the script as group "nobody", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-cgi-gid=apache'." Thanks Mary

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duplicates
by Marco Stoecker 29 Oct '15

29 Oct '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I have Mailman up and running. I just sent an e-mail to 5 lists and the e-mail came duplicated to the recipients. I checked the header and the only difference is the following: 1. Header: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 2. Header: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 How can a avoid duplicates in future? What is the reason? BR Marco -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVCfIsAAoJEC1y3OsA+e10t2MP/0lS3W8F000CYn4MQ1M7Zfqj lzJskw5ysngsspQOCZ9kjBuHmh/TGHusZB90wkapMdAwlbuAypQKB6T7L6nwhKy4 xRkCxKJ6hZybb8g5pvatPnODbFfJE96kOAD9d6B1r5hv56FTE+/TG/50/kCQC4do 9AxsoBUD0hNcSwwTjazMGwGZ4NqDDVLXsrauCR02jB+VdqiZgGrGVnQUS6KRHKB+ fOc3VDxh/jbizRCkh8NFQfwW039QnLQyo+HM/pnYQyDcmsfyPg80/TMoyZLhR6PN NK3AZi+BykM8l7SfyWjmkltHERxYe3ouupQ0wPbWbOY/RCQ0gUUWb28CGZ3HChV6 eypbvPwnXk45WXvQuyhFsU7/KvWVBcb3MNezEm6Q/h5gQyI9FVmEABzjzsvkXxBg j9WhfiatL3ZN1cpCvb1RPxkP4hZ5YHf1fy9QqgXahLl+nuXSQu7IyKR0vJOXdq00 riB3Su7BWPV/lhaXXV6N9PA2TjjJ69tQ8oOfuB4UTJ19Wme1Zwo6J1pWkjY/xZsL izz9BrJeMZas2WqyBwHy2/mibyBMmG6nOW1F+FfqXSb/G/GZSA/yMg/5hb0GMgEc Fbihuiq2TW/TgkPkF+Bx6o+XtKAMA8yVAxrkOEo6YLbD28aga9uAKlai2ypiFQll 6aCeU5gwScRf5mlvnaay =Fkgv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Mailman 2.1.18-1 not respecting add_virtualhost
by Chris Miller 04 Jul '15

04 Jul '15

Hello, we recently updated our (vhost patched) Mailman installation from 2.1.14 to 2.1.18-1 (https://launchpad.net/~msapiro) in order to workaround Yahoo's recent change to their SPF policy that this version addresses. Virtual mailing list hosting worked fine up until this upgrade. Here is an example of our mm_cfg.py : VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'list.ourdomain.com' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'list.ourdomain.com' DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = On add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) add_virtualhost('list.customerdomain.com', 'customerdomain.com') If we change the default values above and run the below command, the available mailing lists move from the old default to the new. bin/withlist -l -a -r fix_url -- All add_virtualhost configuration lines are ignored. Since withlist is able to read the changes in our mm_cfg.py, this does not strike me as an issue with our configure options which were limited : ./configure --prefix=/usr/lib/mailman --with-var-prefix=/var/lib/mailman --with-cgi-gid=apache I am unaware of a method we can use to further debug this, such as a command that would effectively dump out Mailman's configuration options, thus validating if it is even reading the add_virtualhost configuration lines. -- Regards, Chris Chris Miller President - Rocket Scientist ScratchSpace Inc. (831) 621-7928 http://www.scratchspace.com

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Bounces being detected as spam/virus sending rate
by Steven D'Aprano 11 May '15

11 May '15

Hi, I run a mailing list of about 1-2 thousand subscribers for announcements only. My ISP has started sending me automated messages claiming that there is a high spam/virus sending rate from my IP address. It took me a long time to get a straight answer from them, but eventually they told me that they are not triggering on me sending email, but on the number of bounces that come back. My setup is that outgoing mail goes through the ISP's mail server (that was their recommendation) but incoming mail comes directly to me. I send out an announcement, and a few days or a week later I get an automated message from the ISP suggesting I might be sending spam or a virus and pointing me to the usual generic Windows anti-virus solutions. All my computers here are Linux, so while it is not impossible that I have been infected and am now part of a spammer's botnet, I think it's unlikely. I receive unhandled bounce notifications (no more than a handful of those, which I then manually remove) and see notifications of addresses that are removed for excessive bouncing, again no more than a handful at a time. How can I see a list of members set to No Mail for bouncing? Can you suggest anything I can do to avoid triggering the ISP's system? (A hard question, I know, since we don't know precisely what triggers it in the first place.) -- Steve

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Mailman 3.0 Installation Manual
by João Sá Marta 30 Apr '15

30 Apr '15

Hi, Where can I get the Mailman 3.0 Installation Manual ? Regards, João

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ANNOUNCING: GNU Mailman 3.0
by Barry Warsaw 29 Apr '15

29 Apr '15

Twenty years ago, I attended the first Python Workshop at NIST with about 20 other old school Pythonistas. Earlier this month I attended PyCon 2015 in Montreal. PyCon is always exhilarating, but this one was incredibly special for me personally, because my son was on spring break and joined me for the first half of the conference. Both the Python language and its community have grown a little bit <wink> in the intervening years, but what hasn't changed is our love of the language, and the truly amazing people we share that love with. The Python community really is one of the very best open source communities on the planet. The best community inside that great Python family has to be the GNU Mailman team. They're all smart and cool, fun to hang out with, and fun to hack with. With diverse backgrounds, each and every one are good friends and valued technical peers. As has been the case for the last few years, we've sprinted on Mailman 3, getting lots of great work done, but never quite getting something we were satisfied enough with to release. The first alpha of Mailman 3 was released a little over 7 years ago. And so I'm here --and on behalf of Abhilash, Aurélien, Florian, John, Mark, Stephen, Sumana, Terri, our GSoC students, and all the great people who have contributed over the years-- to proudly announce the official release of GNU Mailman 3.0, code named "Show Don't Tell". Mailman 3 is really a suite of 5 tools: * The core, which provides the mail delivery engine, the unified user model, moderation and modification of email messages, and interfaces to external archivers; * Postorius, our new Django-based web user interface for users and list administrators; * HyperKitty, our new Django-based web archiver, providing rich access to the historical record of mailing list traffic; * mailman.client, the official Python bindings to the core's REST API; * mailman-bundler, a set of scripts to make it easy to deploy the full suite inside Python virtual environments. What's new about Mailman 3? Well, lots! Some highlights include: * Backed by a relational database; * True support for multiple domains, with no cross-domain mailing list naming restrictions; * One user account to manage all your subscriptions on a site; * The core's functionality exposed through an administrative REST+JSON API; * All passwords hashed by default, and no monthly password reminders! * Users can post to lists via the web interface; * Built-in archive searching! and more. Tons more. There will be things you love about Mailman 3, and things you don't like. You'll glimpse great possibilities and glaring holes. You'll be excited and frustrated. Such is life with an all-volunteer free software project. For the things you like, and the exciting possibilities, we encourage you to experiment, to do wacky things we haven't thought of, integrate it with your own tools, or just carefully go about deploying a Mailman 3 system. Tell us how you're using it! For the things you don't like, we invite you to join us. Come to the mailing list <mailman-developers(a)python.org> and talk with us. Submit bug reports and pull requests. Help us close the gaps and make Mailman 3 better. Whether your interests are for Internet RFCs, web site development, operations, or you just want to find a fun Python project to hack on with cool people, as they say, contributions are welcome. See the release notes, as well as links to download each component: http://wiki.list.org/Mailman3 You probably want to start with the bundler and let it grab and install all the other parts. More information is available at: http://www.list.org http://wiki.list.org http://launchpad.net/mailman #mailman on freenode mailman-developers(a)python.org Happy Mailman Day, -Barry & the Mailman Cabal

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