Mailman 3 April 2015 - Mailman-Users

Documentation error?
by Lindsay Haisley 23 Apr '15

23 Apr '15

The Mailman installation instructions at <http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node10.html> make reference to the following stanza in the configuration for the Apache web server. <Directory "/usr/local/mailman/archives/public/"> AddDefaultCharset Off </Directory> Is this correct under _any_ circumstances these days? My recollection is that Mailman was revised many years and versions ago to comply more closely to the Linux FSH and that the appropriate directory is now /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/ Should this be changed or amended? Should I file a bug? -- Lindsay Haisley | "The only unchanging certainty FMP Computer Services | is the certainty of change" 512-259-1190 | http://www.fmp.com | - Ancient wisdom, all cultures

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Forbidden is still there.
by Dr. Mikeal Hughes 23 Apr '15

23 Apr '15

I did discover if I type in www.biblematters.net in my browser I still get the Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu) Server at www.biblematters.net Port 80 But if I type in http://www.biblematters.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo I get a page that apparently doesn’t update. if I type in http://www.biblematters.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/biblematters I get the Administrator page put my password in and it says Authorization Failed. Mike

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Icons, email and list creation oh my!
by Mark Sapiro 23 Apr '15

23 Apr '15

On 04/23/2015 08:45 AM, Dr. Mikeal Hughes wrote: > The page is www.biblematters.net Are you saying that is the page on which you found "an old help screen in the mailman home page"? I can't even access that page - 403. >> On Apr 23, 2015, at 10:41, Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: >> >> On 04/23/2015 05:52 AM, Dr. Mikeal Hughes wrote: >>> 1. The icons are >>> not showing up on the bottom of the Web pages. I went to an old help >>> screen in the mailman home page to find it out dated. >> >> >> Please provide the URL of this page so I can fix it if it's wrong or >> misleading. >> >> >>> I typed in the >>> directory /usr/local/apache/icons to the merriment of no such file or >>> directory. Ok that must have been for apache 1 or something. So I >>> need to find out where the icons are located now and where I need to >>> put them for mailman to pick them up. >> >> >> The Icons are in Mailman's misc/ directory. Where you have to copy them >> is to the directory Apache looks in for /icons/ URLs. Check your Apache >> config. >> > I don’t have an Apache.config. Or can’t locate it. I think it is running under the bible matters.net.conf file. In Debian/Ubuntu, your apache config is the files in /etc/apache2 including apache2.conf, conf-available/*, conf.d/*, mods-available/* and sites-available/* You probably have /etc/apache2/mods-available/alias.conf containing Alias /icons/ "/usr/share/apache2/icons/" which says /usr/share/apache2/icons/ is where you should put the mailman.jpg, PythonPowered.png and gnu-head-tiny.jpg files assuming you haven't changed the Defaults.py IMAGE_LOGOS = '/icons/' setting by overriding it with something else in mm_cfg.py. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Icons, email and list creation oh my!
by Dr. Mikeal Hughes 23 Apr '15

23 Apr '15

Well I spent 9 hours yesterday getting all the permissions and ownerships changed in my directories yesterday to get mailman at least showing up on the web. Now I have these issues and I am sure with the “brain trust” here can get them worked out. 1. The icons are not showing up on the bottom of the Web pages. I went to an old help screen in the mailman home page to find it out dated. I typed in the directory /usr/local/apache/icons to the merriment of no such file or directory. Ok that must have been for apache 1 or something. So I need to find out where the icons are located now and where I need to put them for mailman to pick them up. 2. Issue two - The email address that appears on the Welcome page for people to send mail to is wrong. It should be mail(a)biblematters.net <mailto:mail@biblematters.net> instead it is mail(a)www.biblematters.net <mailto:mail@www.biblematters.net> where do I go to get rid of the www out of the address? 3. And finally, drum roll please, I can’t create a new list through the Web portal. I get an error that I am not authorized to do so. I say why not I am the one who put the bloody server together and you mean I can create a list on the thing. If I can’t then who can. Or maybe it don’t want a list but I do. Seriously though any help you can give me will surely be appreciated. If you aren’t married I will be happy to dance at your wedding for the help. Mikeal Hughes, N9GI GROL, Comptia A+, Comptia Network+, MOS Mikeal Hughes & Associates EngineerHughes(a)comcast.net Cell: 815-546-1867

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Can't login through Administrator Authentication
by Dr. Mikeal Hughes 23 Apr '15

23 Apr '15

Ok created list through command line since I could through the web portal. Sent name, email address and password. I went into my Administrator Authentication portal and put in the Password and I get Authorization failed. Mikeal Hughes, N9GI GROL, Comptia A+, Comptia Network+, MOS Mikeal Hughes & Associates EngineerHughes(a)comcast.net Cell: 815-546-1867

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Mailman install - biblematters.net
by Dr. Mikeal Hughes 23 Apr '15

23 Apr '15

Ok here is the way I have the program set up. I have another website I run on this server - www.mikealrhughes.com that is working fine. So I assumed that the mailman install has to go through the etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ In there I have a biblematters.net.conf and a mikealrhughes.com.conf. I assumed I didn’t need a mailman.conf file. I have the directory pointing to usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman where the admin admindb listing and etc are located. Here is my bible matters.net.conf file: <VirtualHost *:80> # The ServerName directive sets the request scheme, hostname and port that # the server uses to identify itself. This is used when creating # redirection URLs. In the context of virtual hosts, the ServerName # specifies what hostname must appear in the request's Host: header to # match this virtual host. For the default virtual host (this file) this # value is not decisive as it is used as a last resort host regardless. # However, you must set it for any further virtual host explicitly. ServerName www.biblematters.net #ServerAdmin macmikeal(a)mac.com DocumentRoot /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman # AllowOverride None #Options ExecCGI #AddHandler cgi-script .cgi #Order allow,deny #Allow from all # Available loglevels: trace8, ..., trace1, debug, info, notice, warn, # error, crit, alert, emerg. # It is also possible to configure the loglevel for particular # modules, e.g. #LogLevel info ssl:warn ErrorLog ${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/error.log CustomLog ${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/access.log combined # For most configuration files from conf-available/, which are # enabled or disabled at a global level, it is possible to # include a line for only one particular virtual host. For example the # following line enables the CGI configuration for this host only # after it has been globally disabled with "a2disconf". #Include conf-available/serve-cgi-bin.conf </VirtualHost> # vim: syntax=apache ts=4 sw=4 sts=4 sr noet

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DMARC documentation lacking
by Fil 23 Apr '15

23 Apr '15

Hello, just upgraded from 2.1.16 to 2.1.20, because I was fed up with the DMARC issue. I googled a bit and found http://wiki.list.org/DEV/DMARC but it lacks info, especially: 1) how to add a default value in mm_cfg.py from the release notes I guess it's something like DEFAULT_DMARC_MODERATION_ACTION = 1 # Munge 2) what numbers correspond to each action (I dug them out from a comment in SpamDetect.py) # Note that for dmarc_moderation_action, 0 = Accept, # 1 = Munge, 2 = Wrap, 3 = Reject, 4 = Discard (I would have updated http://wiki.list.org/DEV/DMARC but it's immutable.) -- Fil

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traceback: TypeError: expected string or buffer
by Fil 23 Apr '15

23 Apr '15

Apr 23 06:23:46 2015 (19383) SHUNTING: 1422957261.069973+11febcd5ef3a2e5ca1331e7ee7dddb0f11888759 Apr 23 06:23:46 2015 (19383) Uncaught runner exception: expected string or buffer Apr 23 06:23:46 2015 (19383) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 119, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/var/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 190, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/var/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in _dispose more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File "/var/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/var/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SpamDetect.py", line 142, in process headers += getDecodedHeaders(p, lcset) File "/var/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SpamDetect.py", line 74, in getDecodedHeaders v = decode_header(re.sub('\n\s', ' ', v)) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/re.py", line 151, in sub return _compile(pattern, flags).sub(repl, string, count) TypeError: expected string or buffer I tried to investigate a bit but it appears that in some cases, v is an "instance", and the message goes to qfiles/shunt/ Does it ring a bell? (I have to say it might be linked to one of my local patches, though I really can't see which.) thanks -- Fil

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Somebody could not subscribe to pypy-dev@python.org
by Laura Creighton 23 Apr '15

23 Apr '15

In a message of Wed, 22 Apr 2015 16:52:33 -0700, Mark Sapiro writes: >It wouldn't be his machine. It would be something between his machine >and mail.python.org. Perhaps some kind of load balancer or other >device which submits each separate http request from one of a pool of >IP addresses. Thus, the subscribe only works if whatever it is uses >the same IP for both the GET and POST and the presence/absence of a >password is just a coincidence. BINGO. He has found out that this is what happens at his (new) work site. It's a load balancer. He is very grateful for getting this figured out. :) I fear that this sort of load balancing is going to become all the more common in the future. Is insisting that the IP addresses match serving a useful purpose? Should we have a more informative error message? Laura

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Mailman Initiation problems
by Dr. Mikeal Hughes 23 Apr '15

23 Apr '15

Well I have been trying to get mailman to go on this Ubuntu 14.04 Server install now for 3 days. I am down to this problem. Any time I type in http://biblematters.net/cgi-bin/mailman/admin <http://biblematters.net/cgi-bin/mailman/admin> I get. A 403 error that says. Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu) Server at www.biblematters.net Port 80 Any ideas where this problem might be?

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