Mailman 3 February 2007 - Mailman-Users

Hide list address?
by Ricardo Kleemann 16 Nov '23

16 Nov '23

Hi, Is there any way to configure Mailman such that, for an announcement-only type list, when a message is sent to the list, the To: shows the member's address, rather than the list address? Some list software allows the ability to hide the list address itself, so that address is not advertised. I couldn't find any configuration specific to that.

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Add "sender's name/email" to BODY of mail as header?
by Mal 16 Feb '21

16 Feb '21

I want all mails sent to the list to come from the list's email address... But, in this case, if the user forgets to sign their name at the bottom of their mail body, effectively the mail to the list is anonymous...! Is there a way to add the user name (or email address) to the top of each mail so that the mails have the name of the sender, while the mail itself comes from the list address? I have looked high and low for an answer, but noone seems to have the solution. Thank you! Mal

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Setting MIME as default for new Non-Digest subscribers
by Steve Reiter 31 Jul '11

31 Jul '11

Hi - I have searched FAQ and archives to find an answer. Hoping you can help. I have a new list (with previously imported addresses) for announcements only, and wish these announcements to be received immediately. I set the defaults to allow non-digest and to not allow digest. I wish to send out announcements in html, and so wish to make the default for new subscribers be MIME. While I see a setting under Digest Options (MIME_is_Default_Digest), I don't see any equivalent option under Non-Digest Options... and new subscribers continue to come in as plain text. QUESTIONS: In order to avoid having to manually change this option for each existing subscriber, is there a way to force all existing subscribers to receive MIME in Non-Digest mode? If not, is there a way to force all NEW subscribers to be enrolled with MIME as their default? Also, is there a way to "lock" the MIME switch on, so that users who try to change their option to plain text will be prevented from doing so? Thanks - Steve

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Mailman/Qmail/Plesk Problem
by Douglas G. Phillips 24 Jul '09

24 Jul '09

OK, I've got another problem with Qmail/Plesk/Mailman (same customer, rebuilt server). Plesk is 7.5.4 reloaded. Mail delivered fails with "need GID 110 got 101" error. I set up the brute-force wrapper to deliver with GID 110, and set the permissions correctly for it to work. Now, I'm getting the following (broken up into multiple lines for courtesy): qmail: 1157518628.995172 delivery 726: success: group_mismatch_error._Mailman_expected_the_mail_wrapper_script_to_be/ executed_as_one_of_the_following_groups:/[mail,_nobody,_mailman],/ but_the_system's_mail_server_executed_the_mail_script_as_group:_"popuser"./ Try_tweaking_the_mail_server_to_run_the_script_as_one_of_these_groups:/ [mail,_nobody,_mailman],/or_re-run_configure_providing_the_ command_line_option:/'--with-mail-gid=popuser'./Failed_to_start_ /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman./did_0+0+1/ I'm about ready to pull my hair out. I even added the popuser user to the mailman group in /etc/passwd. So, that being said, are there any ideas out there? I have been messing with this for a week, and have not come up with anything else to do. -- Douglas G. Phillips Simple Business Solutions ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

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migrating Mailman server
by Peter Matulis 19 Sep '07

19 Sep '07

I have the task of setting up a replacement for an existing Mailman/Postfix server. I am new to Mailman and I am looking for some guidance in this transition. Mailman is currently being used solely as a diffusion of information. That is, it does not accept contributions from list members (read-only). Firstly, should I attempt to migrate data/files over to the new system or should I start fresh? The new system will be running OpenBSD 4.0. Other comments welcome. Peter

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MSN and HotMail "Eating" Messages
by fshagan 24 May '07

24 May '07

Recently, my Mailman list users who use either a HotMail or MSN.COM email address have not received any messages. Mailman does not record a "bounce" from these email addresses, but they do not receive any of the list traffic. When trying to send a message to a Mailman list, the user gets the following error message: "This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. Delivery to the following recipients failed." And it lists the Mailman list email address. However, Mailman does not receive a bounce message. (My server is not listed with SpamHaus.org, or any of the other blacklists, so it should not be a spam filter sort of thing). One user requested help from MSN, and they responded with: "You are experiencing this issue because your .Net Passport <user's email address here> Profile (which is extensively used for authentication purposes) is corrupted (not updated). In order to resolve this issue, I would suggest you to Update your .NET passport profile." They follow that with instructions to go to their MSN .NET Passport profile and re-type all the information by hand (not by cut and paste). Then a 15-step procedure is given to delete all cookies, history and temporary internet files and re-set the disk cache (space for files) to 10MB. They believe that will solve the problem but alas, it has not for the 4 users I have with MSN or HotMail email addresses. Anyone else run into this and resolved it? I didn't see anything in the archives. If any of you have users with MSN or HotMail addresses, be advised they probably will not be able to receive emails, but you will not get "bounce" messages. They only way they will know is if they try to post to a Mailman list.

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Confirmation and sent messages not reaching end-user
by Jason Luck 11 Mar '07

11 Mar '07

- Mailman 2.1.7 - RPM - Redhat Fedora Linux version 2.6.15-1.2054_FC5 - Sendmail Question: I'm setting up a Mailman system and have hit a roadblock that looks to deal with sending and receiving messages. What I know: I've looked through the FAQ and specfically FAQ 3.14, and am able to get a number of the items requested, but don't know enough to be able to decipher what the outputs are saying. I can seemingly create lists...both at the command prompt using newlist and through the web-interface, but do not receive any confirmation emails once those lists are created. Additionally, I subscribed to one of the lists and tried to send a message to the list and did not receive the message. Also, the archives do not show the message. I've listed below a few of the responses from the outputs of the FAQ and can provide additional log file info if it will be helpful. Thanks. FAQ3.14 3) yes uses smrsh, grep "smrsh" sendmail.cf output: ##### $Id: smrsh.m4,v 8.14 1999/11/18 05:06:23 ca Exp $ ##### Mprog, P=/usr/sbin/smrsh, F=lsDFMoqeu9, S=EnvFromL/HdrFromL, R=EnvToL/HdrToL, D=$z:/, A=smrsh -c $u ls -l smrsh output: total 4lrwxrwxrwx 1 root mailman 29 Sep 16 05:18 mailman -> /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman 4) Interface grep "Port" sendmail.cf O DaemonPortOptions=Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA #O ClientPortOptions=Family=inet, Address=0.0.0.0 netstat -na |grep ":25 " output: tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN a bit shady here... /etc/hosts has nothing in it. SMTPHOST...in mm_cfg.py...no info on DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' MTA = 'Manual' SMTPHOST = 'localhost' SMTPPORT = 0 # default from smtplib SENDMAIL_CMD = '/usr/lib/sendmail' 5) qrunner is running 6) Locks Can't find any locks folder under a mailman directory 7) Logs more post Feb 21 18:30:00 2007 (6645) post to test from mailman-owner(a)falconfootball.org, size=1492, message-id=<mailman.0.1172099747.6557.test @falconfootball.org>, 1 failures Feb 21 18:30:00 2007 (6645) post to test from mailman-owner(a)falconfootball.org, size=1845, message-id=<mailman.1.1172099747.6557.test(a)falconfootball.org>, 1 failures Feb 21 18:30:01 2007 (6645) post to mailman from mailman-owner(a)falconfootball.org, size=1876, message-id=<mailman.0.1172100348.6610.mailman(a)falconfootball.org>, 1 failures Feb 21 18:45:00 2007 (6645) post to test from mailman-owner(a)falconfootball.org, size=1492, message-id=<mailman.0.1172099747.6557.test(a)falconfootball.org>, 1 failures Feb 21 18:45:00 2007 (6645) post to test from mailman-owner(a)falconfootball.org, size=1845, message-id=<mailman.1.1172099747.6557.test(a)falconfootball.org>, 1 failures Feb 21 18:45:00 2007 (6645) post to mailman from mailman-owner(a)falconfootball.org, size=1876, message-id=<mailman.0.1172100348.6610.mailman(a)falconfootball.org>, 1 failures Feb 21 18:58:02 2007 (6645) post to test from test-request(a)falconfootball.org, size=1636, message-id=<mailman.0.1172102281.6821.test(a)falconfootball.org>, 1 failures

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No mail and no posts from mailman
by Bob McClure Jr 28 Feb '07

28 Feb '07

I am befuddled. mailman-2.1.8-0.FC4.1 (from RPM) Fedora Core 4 (kept up to date with nightly yum) postfix-2.2.2-2 (from RPM) This is an established list server that has had one functioning list (albeit very low volume, so I can't swear that it is still working). I added a new list, put myself and one other person as the administrator, set it to send notifications of new subscribers, and subscribed both of us to the list. Then I sent two test emails to the list, but they seem to have gone into a black hole. My workstation mail server sent them: Feb 26 18:07:33 bobcat postfix/smtp[1119]: 5B3EF42C8: to=<foobarlist(a)lists.bobcatos.com>, relay=bubba.bobcatos.com[192.168.3.2], delay=0, status=sent (250 Ok: queued as AC98C2057) Feb 26 22:08:54 bobcat postfix/smtp[11974]: DFFA742C8: to=<foobarlist(a)lists.bobcatos.com>, relay=bubba.bobcatos.com[192.168.3.2], delay=1, status=sent (250 Ok: queued as 429CA2056) My list server got it: Feb 26 18:07:41 bubba postfix/local[17421]: AC98C2057: to=<foobarlist(a)lists.bobcatos.com>, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post foobarlist) Feb 26 22:09:03 bubba postfix/local[20514]: 429CA2056: to=<foobarlist(a)lists.bobcatos.com>, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post foobarlist) But nothing came out. Nothing held for moderation. Nothing in the /var/log/mailman/* logs about them. Nothing in the archives. Following FAQ 3.14: 0) Did it. 1) # ps auxww| grep mailmanctl |grep -v grep mailman 7087 0.0 0.3 13048 1672 ? Ss 2006 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s -q start # ps auxww | egrep 'p[y]thon' mailman 7087 0.0 0.3 13048 1672 ? Ss 2006 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s -q start mailman 7097 0.0 0.5 12912 2508 ? S 2006 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s 2) My /etc/mailman/aliases contains (among other things) # STANZA START: foobarlist # CREATED: Sat Feb 24 18:33:52 2007 foobarlist: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post foobarlist" foobarlist-admin: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin foobarlist" foobarlist-bounces: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces foobarlist" foobarlist-confirm: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm foobarlist" foobarlist-join: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join foobarlist" foobarlist-leave: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave foobarlist" foobarlist-owner: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner foobarlist" foobarlist-request: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request foobarlist" foobarlist-subscribe: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe foobarlist" foobarlist-unsubscribe: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe foobarlist" # STANZA END: foobarlist And the aliases.db file was updated. But then we knew that from the maillog entries. Also, my postfix main.cf contains alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases, hash:/etc/mailman/aliases But then we knew that from the maillog entries, too. 3) Smrsh (not applicable) 4) Interface: This is a full-bore company mail server and has serviced the other list just fine, not to mention Squirrelmail and several daemons and cron jobs that send mail. 5) qrunner: Mailman is started by /etc/rc.d/init.d/mailman, and # service mailman status mailman (pid 7087) is running... 6) Locks: # ls -l ~mailman/locks ls: /usr/lib/mailman/locks: No such file or directory 7) Logs: The only things in the logs are the subscriptions: [root@bubba mailman]# cat qrunner Feb 25 04:08:42 2007 (7087) Master watcher caught SIGHUP. Re-opening log files. Feb 25 04:08:44 2007 (7097) RetryRunner qrunner caught SIGHUP. Reopening logs. [root@bubba mailman]# cat subscribe Feb 26 17:42:35 2007 (10359) foobarlist: new bob(a)bobcatos.com, admin mass sub Feb 26 17:42:35 2007 (10359) foobarlist: new otherperson(a)domain.com, admin mass sub The only thing in error is the result of running mailmanctl with no arguments. /var/log/mailman/smtp is zero-length. 8) Qfiles: # ls -l ~mailman/qfiles ls: /usr/lib/mailman/qfiles: No such file or directory # locate qfiles /usr/lib/mailman/bin/show_qfiles Okay, with this and (6), I'm wondering if some directories are missing. But if so, why is (or was) the other list functioning, and why is there nothing in the logs about it? Also, the server has been up for 216 days, and the other list was created since the last boot, so there's been no system crash to take something out. 9) SMTPHOST: /var/log/mailman/smtp shows no signs of distress, in fact, it is zero-length (and owned by mailman). 10) Sendmail + mm-handler (not applicable) For FAQ 1.7: a) N/A since this is v2.1.8. b, c, and d) Aliases are ok by inspection and log entries, above. e) qrunner is running. f) No messages for moderation. g) /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py contains DEFAULT_URL_HOST = "www.bobcatos.com" DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = "lists.bobcatos.com" add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) What clues am I missing? Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. bob(a)bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com "But what about you?" Jesus asked. "Who do you say I am?" Peter answered, "You are the Christ." Mark 8:29 (NIV)

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Moderation issues
by Bill Lempesis 28 Feb '07

28 Feb '07

I want members to be able to send to the list unmoderated but reject all non-member postings. Can't figure this out with 2.1.9 Bill

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shunting - archive problem?
by Sruli Shaffren 28 Feb '07

28 Feb '07

Hi, I am looking for help on a problem with one of my lists. Currently everything is shunting. This is using version 2.1.6 of Mailman: Feb 28 08:04:24 2007 (16894) Uncaught runner exception: 356461.34359.qm(a)web50307.mail.yahoo.com Feb 28 08:04:24 2007 (16894) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py", line 89, in _dispose mlist.ArchiveMail(msg) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 217, in ArchiveMail h.close() File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 321, in close self.write_TOC() File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 1324, in write_TOC rss.write(self.RSS()) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 1023, in RSS article = items[i] = self.database.getArticle(self.archive, items[i]) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py", line 284, in getArticle buf = self.articleIndex[msgid] File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py", line 146, in __getitem__ return self.dict[item] KeyError: 356461.34359.qm(a)web50307.mail.yahoo.com Feb 28 08:04:26 2007 (16894) SHUNTING: 1164951564.8909371+0c84386d68f178608e0aa40e88a8aaac49173559 I have tried to shut down the qrunner and have rebuilt the archives using this command: # bin/arch --wipe list Any suggestions? -- Sruli Shaffren Also Networks sruli(a)alsonetworks.com

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