Mailman-Users October 2019

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Using cronjob to remove and add members to a mailing list
by Jerry Barnabee 10 Aug '22

10 Aug '22

I want to be able to run a cronjob on my server that uses a php script to add new users and/or remove users from a mailing list. Not having any luck finding any simple examples. My thought is that the php script would get email addresses from a database (which I can do) and then feed them to a mailman command line to either add or remove a user. The cronjob is entered via Cpanel. Have several cronjobs that modify databases but have never tried something that would actually execute a unix command. Thanks, Pineyscripter

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Automate Moderator Functions
by Andre de Azevedo Cunha 18 Apr '22

18 Apr '22

Hi, i`m trying to reject messages bigger then MAX_MESSAGE_SIZE. I configured my Hold.py was described bellow: replaced hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, _ MessageTooBig(bodylen,_mlist.max_message_size)) with rej = MessageTooBig(bodylen, mlist.max_message_size) _ raise Errors.RejectMessage, rej.reason_notice_ The message was rejected, but the sender dont receive any notify about that. The mailman vette log too. How can i solve this? Thanks, André Dennis Putnam wrote: > >I am getting back to this and I have a question about maintenance. What >is the correct way to modify this so that it will not get destroyed by >updates? There are two ways to proceed. You can modify Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py itself, but before overwriting it, make a "diff -u" between the base Hold.py and your modified version to use as a patch to apply after any upgrade. A better way is to leave Hold.py unchanged and make your own edited version as say Mailman/Handlers/MyHold.py. Then you can replace the base Hold.py Module with your MyHold.py by putting GLOBAL_PIPELINE[GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold')] = 'MyHold' in mm_cfg.py. Note that if you are going to do this, and you want also to move MimeDel before Hold, you must either put the above line after the lines GLOBAL_PIPELINE.remove('MimeDel') GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') in mm_cfg.py or put it before, but then also change GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') to GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('MyHold'), 'MimeDel') I recommend the former as in # # Put MimeDel ahead of Hold so "too big" is based on content filtered # message. # GLOBAL_PIPELINE.remove('MimeDel') GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') # # Replace Hold with local version # GLOBAL_PIPELINE[GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold')] = 'MyHold' Since mm_cfg.py survives upgrades, this should survive. >Also does this same procedure apply to other automatic rejections such >as implicit destination? >On 9/24/2012 8:43 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> To automatically reject or discard messages that exceed the list's size >> limit, find the section of the Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py that ends with >> the lines >> >> >> if bodylen/1024.0 > mlist.max_message_size: >> hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, >> MessageTooBig(bodylen, >> mlist.max_message_size)) >> # no return >> >> (there is one wrapped line in the above) and replace >> >> hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, >> MessageTooBig(bodylen, >> mlist.max_message_size)) >> >> with >> >> rej = MessageTooBig(bodylen, mlist.max_message_size)) >> raise Errors.RejectMessage, rej.reason_notice >> >> to reject the message or with >> >> raise Errors.DiscardMessage >> >> to discard the message. Note that this will not honor the list's >> forward_auto_discards setting. to do that you would need to put >> >> from Mailman.Handlers.Moderate import do_discard >> >> with the other imports near the beginning of the >> Mailman.Handlers.hold.py module and then replace the lines with >> >> do_discard(mlist, msg) Yes, similar changes would apply to other holds in Hold.py. -- Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net [1]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan -- Links: ------ [1] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

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Newbie User
by David Elliott 17 Mar '22

17 Mar '22

Hi, I am a newbie to Mailman and cpanel and I need some help, please. I have set up a mailing list for my tennis club (about 300 on list) and it seems to work ok BUT each recipient only sees the mailing list name rather than his own email name in the 'to' box. One of the recipients recently did a 'reply to all' and consequently sent his reply to the whole mailing list. I'm sure there must be a way to prevent this but I can't find it! David Elliott

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Add "sender's name/email" to BODY of mail as header?
by Mal 17 Feb '21

17 Feb '21

I want all mails sent to the list to come from the list's email address... But, in this case, if the user forgets to sign their name at the bottom of their mail body, effectively the mail to the list is anonymous...! Is there a way to add the user name (or email address) to the top of each mail so that the mails have the name of the sender, while the mail itself comes from the list address? I have looked high and low for an answer, but noone seems to have the solution. Thank you! Mal

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Mailman CGI Error-Group mismatch error
by Wang, Mary Y 10 Sep '20

10 Sep '20

Hi, I received the following error this morning. So I rerun configure again with the following command: ./configure --with-cgi-id=apache --prefix=/var/mailman. I'm still getting the same error. Is there any place that I can look for so that I can debug this problem better? Perhaps, looking at the config history file or something. Any other places that I can check the cause of this error? "Mailman CGI error!!! The Mailman CGI wrapper encountered a fatal error. This entry is being stored in your syslog: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the CGI wrapper script to be executed as group "nobody", but the system's web server executed the CGI script as group "apache". Try tweaking the web server to run the script as group "nobody", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-cgi-gid=apache'." Thanks Mary

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Find a smtp server to send out emails
by Leon 20 Mar '20

20 Mar '20

Hi, This problem is not caused by mailman, but I still want to give it a shot here. I'm hosting a mailing list on top of mailman. Emails are supposed to be sent out by AWS ses. However, ses requires that sender address must be verified, which leads to a problem that emails sent by subscribers to mailing list cannot be sent to other subcirbers, since their addresses are not verified. And it is impossible to verified every subscriber. Are there smtp service providers allowing unverified email address to send out emails, or do I have other solutions? Thanks. Leon

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Installing Mailman on a Debian system with Apache 2.4.2, CGI error!
by Jayson Smith 05 Dec '19

05 Dec '19

Hi, This is a weird one. I think of myself as knowing my way around Mailman pretty well for a user/admin/installer/upgrader. I'm upgrading to a Debian 9 system from CentOS 6.5. Debian's Apache configs took a bit of getting used to, but I actually like them better. It uses Apache 2.4.2. I wanted to install Mailman from source, since the latest version is 2.1.26, Debian has 2.1.23, and IIRC that's too old to have some screen reader optimizations I want. So I built, installed, all working well. I copied over the Mailman config from my CentOS system to use in Apache, making some changes so it'd work under 2.4.2. Here it is: -------------------- # # httpd configuration settings for use with mailman. # ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ <Directory /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/> AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI Require all granted </Directory> Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/ <Directory /var/lib/mailman/archives/public> Options Indexes MultiViews FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Require all granted AddDefaultCharset Off </Directory> # Uncomment the following line, to redirect queries to /mailman to the # listinfo page (recommended). # RedirectMatch ^/mailman[/]*$ /mailman/listinfo -------------------- The problem is that the CGI isn't working. If I go to http://temphostname/mailman/listinfo/mailman for example, Apache says /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/mailman doesn't exist. If I just go to /mailman/listinfo I get an Elf binary thrown at me, rather than the page saying there are no advertised lists. If I do the same thing from the server using the Lynx web browser, I get the same binary thrown at me, with a page title, "Mailman CGI error!" It sounds to me like Apache 2.4.2 isn't seeing that /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin is, in fact, CGI scripts, and is trying to treat them like regular files. Has something else changed between Apache versions? Thanks, Jayson

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bug
by Dave Stevens 30 Oct '19

30 Oct '19

Bug in Mailman version 2.1.26 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. I was trying to log in to the mailman pending admin tasks page to delete an attempted post by a non-member. in /var/log/mailman/error is: admin(22004): [----- Traceback ------] admin(22004): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(22004): File "/var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 117, in run_main admin(22004): main() admin(22004): File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py", line 219, in main admin(22004): mlist.Lock() admin(22004): File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 162, in Lock admin(22004): self.__lock.lock(timeout) admin(22004): File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 243, in lock admin(22004): self.__write() admin(22004): File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 422, in __write admin(22004): fp = open(self.__tmpfname, 'w') admin(22004): IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/lib/mailman/locks/amsmembers.lock.web6.bcenclave.ca.22004.0' admin(22004): [----- Python Information -----] admin(22004): sys.version = 2.7.15+ (default, Oct 7 2019, 17:39:04) [GCC 7.4.0] admin(22004): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(22004): sys.prefix = /usr admin(22004): sys.exec_prefix = /usr admin(22004): sys.path = ['/var/lib/mailman/pythonlib', '/var/lib/mailman', '/usr/lib/mailman/scripts', '/var/lib/mailman', '/usr/lib/python2.7', '/usr/lib/python2.7/plat-x86_64-linux-gnu', '/usr/lib/python2.7/lib-tk', '/usr/lib/python2.7/lib-old', '/usr/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload', '/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages', '/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages'] admin(22004): sys.platform = linux2 admin(22004): [----- Environment Variables -----] admin(22004): CONTENT_LENGTH: 40 admin(22004): SERVER_NAME: cleanairplan.ca admin(22004): SERVER_PORT: 10000 admin(22004): HTTPS: ON admin(22004): HTTP_COOKIE: admin(22004): REMOTE_ADDR: 207.194.211.2 admin(22004): PYTHONPATH: /var/lib/mailman admin(22004): PATH_INFO: /amsmembers admin(22004): SCRIPT_NAME: /virtualmin-mailman/unauthenticated/admindb.cgi admin(22004): REQUEST_METHOD: POST admin(22004): HTTP_HOST: cleanairplan.ca:10000 admin(22004): USER: www-data admin(22004): CONTENT_TYPE: application/x-www-form-urlencoded admin(22004): SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.0 admin(22004): QUERY_STRING: admin(22004): LOGNAME: www-data admin(22004): REQUEST_URI: /virtualmin-mailman/unauthenticated/admindb.cgi/amsmembers admin(22004): DOCUMENT_ROOT: /usr/share/webmin I don't know what to do about this. Dave

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Trouble with Mailman 2 and Postfix 3.1 - Fixed
by Alan Ordway 24 Oct '19

24 Oct '19

Thought I would share this problem I ran into and the solution incase anyone else has it. Running Mailman 2.1.20 on Ubuntu 16 and a recent update to postfix stopped my lists. In my syslog I was seeing a message similar to: Oct 24 16:43:59 mailman postfix/smtpd[18686]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mailman.ihmc.us[184.182.233.xxx]: 451 4.3.0 <user(a)ihmc.us>: Temporary lookup failure; from=<podcast-bounces(a)mailman.ihmc.us> to=<user(a)ihmc.us> proto=ESMTP helo=<mailman.ihmc.us> As it turns out Postfix 3 tightened up on relaying. In my postfix/main.cf I had both mynetworks_style = subnet mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 [::ffff:127.0.0.0]/104 [::1]/128 I finally found at <http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html <http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html>> that if mynetworks is present then mynetworks_style is ignored. So I commented out mynetworks and changed mynetworks_style = host and now mail from lists is being delivered again. Hope this helps someone else. -- Alan M Ordway

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List first created
by Peter Fraser 23 Oct '19

23 Oct '19

Hi All I was wondering, is there a way to tell when a mailing list was first created? Regards SI

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