Mailman 3 February 1999 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] error compiling CVS copy from a few minutes ago
by Vivek Khera 26 Feb '99

26 Feb '99

>>>>> "BAW" == Barry A Warsaw <bwarsaw(a)cnri.reston.va.us> writes: BAW> Please let me know how it goes! The copy from CVS seems to work ok... I did have a *lot* of confusion with restricting posting to only list members. It seems that the only way to make an "only members allowed to post" list is to set "members_post_only" to yes, *and* put anything into the box below it to allow other specific addresses to post. I just added "nobody(a)no.where". If I set members_post_only to yes and leave the other box blank, anyone can post. If I set members_post_only to no and leave the other box blank, *nobody* can post. I suspect others will have similar problems with the terminology used, unless this is a bug ;-) Personally, I think if members_post_only is set to yes, then *only* members should be allowed to post regardless of the setting of the additional posters list. This is a very common setting for mailing lists (at least mine ;-) Thanks! I really like the HTML interface to config the lists... much easier than anything else out there. Now, the only feature missing for me is an option to bounce messages rather than forcing them on the moderator. v. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera(a)kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 PGP & MIME spoken here http://www.kciLink.com/home/khera/

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error compiling CVS copy from a few minutes ago
by Vivek Khera 26 Feb '99

26 Feb '99

I went to compile the CVS current copy from a few minutes ago. The file common.c has the following compiler error on BSD/OS 4.0: gmake[1]: Entering directory `/u/sources/local/email/mailman-cvs/mailman/src' gcc -c -I. -DPREFIX="\"/opt/mailman\"" -DPYTHON="\"/usr/contrib/bin/python\"" -DHELPFUL -g -O2 -DHAVE_STRERROR=1 -DHAVE_SETREGID=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYSLOG_H=1 -DGETGROUPS_T=gid_t -DHAVE_VPRINTF=1 ./common.c ./common.c: In function `run_script': ./common.c:145: `logident' undeclared (first use this function) ./common.c:145: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ./common.c:145: for each function it appears in.) gmake[1]: *** [common.o] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/u/sources/local/email/mailman-cvs/mailman/src' It is not clear to me what the proper string here should be, perhaps it should be the variable 'script'? I configured with "./configure --prefix=/opt/mailman --with-mail-gid=nogroup" v. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera(a)kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 PGP & MIME spoken here http://www.kciLink.com/home/khera/

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Mailman & QMail
by Martin Preishuber 25 Feb '99

25 Feb '99

Hi there, I've just installed Mailman 5 times without too great success ... I guess the problem is qmail-related ... The installation went fine (I used configure --prefix=/home/users/mailman --with-mail-gid=qmail --with-cgi-gid=nobody which seems to be correct) but mailman just doesn't send any mail ... when I create a new list with newlist, it doesn't do anything (at least there's nothing in the maillog) plus when subscribing to a mailinglist, the mail gets forwarded to list@host but then there's nothing again ... could anyone give me some hint, what I'm doing wrong ? Thanks, Martin -- Martin Preishuber - Student, ECLiPt Core Member, SysAdmin http://eclipt.uni-klu.ac.at, mailto:Martin.Preishuber@stuco.uni-klu.ac.at Some rise by sin and some by virtue fall.

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what's the best config for an announce-only list?
by Vivek Khera 25 Feb '99

25 Feb '99

I have three mailing lists that are announce-only. That is, anyone can sign up, but only a fixed handful of people are allowed to post to the lists. Under SmartList, I have it set up that anyone who is not authorized to post gets a "you are not authorized" message. The best I see in Mailman (1.0b8) is to make the list moderated. But in this case, someone has to go in and manually toss the messages. I don't see an equivalent flag for a user of "do not allow posting". Is anyone else using Mailman to handle announce-only lists like this? What configuration have you used? Related to this, one of the lists has about 70,000 members and is generated prior to posting from an SQL database. Does anyone have a command-line utility one can use to *replace* the current users list with those from a file? It seems to me that the users are stored in a db file... Thanks. v. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera(a)kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 PGP & MIME spoken here http://www.kciLink.com/home/khera/

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Strange Problem.
by Harald Meland 25 Feb '99

25 Feb '99

[Michael Quigley] > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > "|/d0/mailman/mail/wrapper post webmaster" > (expanded from: webmaster(a)goingv.com) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > 554 "|/d0/mailman/mail/wrapper post webmaster"... unknown mailer error 1 This indicates that the "wrapper" binary or something exec()d by it, exit()ed with a status 1 (indicating that something failed). The first thing to suspect is that "wrapper" is being run under the wrong gid. If that is the case, it tries logging this to syslog. The fix is either to reconfigure mailman with the "--with-mail-gid" option (and then rebuild and reinstall), or else configure your MTA to run the pipe under the correct gid. [ If mrxadmin has a .forward file containing "webmaster(a)goingv.com", the MTA doing the local delivery to mrxadmin is the same as the one expanding "webmaster(a)goingv.com" into a Mailman pipe (via som alias file), your MTA might be taking a shortcut: 1. Mail arrives for mrxadmin, a local user. 2. MTA changes UID (and GID) to mrxadmin prior to delivery. 3. Local delivery discovers .forward file. 4. Since the address in the .forward file is expanded to a pipe locally, the local delivery process running as mrxadmin tries delivering to the Mailman pipe. 5. Mailman notices that it's run under the incorrect GID, and rejects the message. If this is what's going on, I'm not sure why the messages are delivered to the members on the Mailman list anyway. I know how to configure Exim so that it doesn't take such shortcuts -- if you are using some other MTA, you'll have to ask someone familiar with that MTA for help on configuration. ] If those GIDs aren't the problem, you might get a traceback of where things fail if you configure your MTA to return any output the pipe generates along with the delivery report. Again, I only how to do this in Exim. -- Harald

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Re: [Mailman-Users] error with getpass module
by Harald Meland 25 Feb '99

25 Feb '99

[danilo lujambio] > Sorry , > but when I try to use mmsitepass I found : > > no module getpass > > I have been looking for in my Setup file for this modules , but I didn't find > it. I think this is one of the modules that wasn't included in earlier Python versions, but is included in 1.5.1. To remedy this, recent Mailman versions supplies it's own version of the module in "Mailman/pythonlib/getpass.py". So upgrading either of Python or Mailman (or both) should get you all set. -- Harald

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Hostname in mail headers
by Harald Meland 25 Feb '99

25 Feb '99

[Marcus C. Gottwald] > I was sure that none of the involved MTAs that I have control > over did something like that. But when I was digging into it, > I found that all mails were addressed to listname@main-fqdn > although had been sent to listname@some-other-fqdn. This > happens when the other fqdn is not a "real" DNS-entry, but a > CNAME. Using CNAMEs in mail addresses is Wrong. So don't. Cf RFC 1123, section 5.2.2: 5.2.2 Canonicalization: RFC-821 Section 3.1 The domain names that a Sender-SMTP sends in MAIL and RCPT commands MUST have been "canonicalized," i.e., they must be fully-qualified principal names or domain literals, not nicknames or domain abbreviations. A canonicalized name either identifies a host directly or is an MX name; it cannot be a CNAME. -- Harald

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Problem after installation
by Oliver Timme 24 Feb '99

24 Feb '99

Hello All I have now installed Mailman on our Linux system. I also opened a new list called 'kunden'. When I call the URL http://www2.sercon.ch/cgi-bin/listinfo I get an information page on wich the new list is listed, fine. But if I click on the list 'kunden', and then want to subscribe, I got an error: File Not Found The reason is, because Mailman jumps to this URL: http://www2.sercon.ch/subscribe/kunden You can see that ther is missing the /cgi-bin !! It's the same if I want to list the listmembers! Whats wrong? Where can I change the configfiles for this problem?? Thanks for any help, Oliver

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use of name "mailman"
by Christopher Kolar 23 Feb '99

23 Feb '99

Sorry to bug you all with this (not being on the developers' list myself), but I was wondering if I am the only person to wonder about the use of the name "Mailman." It is used by Endymion (www.endymion.com) for both the commercial and the (excellent, free) standard versions of their WWW-POP3 interface software. I am running both on the same server and about once or twice a day get confused over which I am reading about. Apart from the confusion of a few users, maybe the development team should look into the use of the name (from a legal perspective). Apologies if this has already been taken care of, just trying to be helpful. --chris

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restricted posting in 1.0b8 not working right
by Vivek Khera 23 Feb '99

23 Feb '99

I'm trying out a test list, and it seems to work to let me subscribe, but when I post a message, it always defers it saying that I'm not a member (I have restricted posting to members only). I don't have the all postings must be moderated setting. I've tried setting the SMART_ADDRESS_MATCH = 0 under the assumption that my @kciLink.com was not matching @kcilink.com (which is how it ends up in the list). That didn't matter. I also subscribed from a remote machine which has an all-lower case domain name setting and that also let me subscribe but didn't let me post. I also noticed while testing this that the detection of administrivia to the main list address is not caught. A "subscribe" message to the list gets the same "you're not a member" treatment. Is the restricted posting feature not working? It doesn't show up in the bugs list on the ToDo page. v. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera(a)kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 PGP & MIME spoken here http://www.kciLink.com/home/khera/

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