Mailman 3 March 1999 - Mailman-Users

Importing archives
by Grace, Terry March 24, 1999

March 24, 1999

When trying to import text files into a list archive using the command "./arch test-list /home/tgrace/ntlist/test-list/LL990312.LOG", I get: Pickling archive state into /home/mailman/archives/private/test-list/pipermail.pck LL990312.LOG contains only a single e-mail message (including smtp headers) with no special formatting or special characters. Nothing gets entered into the archives. Anyone have any ideas on how to correct?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Debian package [was: Please help]
by Douglas Bates March 24, 1999

March 24, 1999

>>>>> "Lala" == Lala <lala(a)cite.bme.hu> writes: Lala> While trying to launch mailman, I encountered a problem I Lala> could not solve. Please help if you can. Lala> I have Debian and have installed python (it was python-base Lala> that is included in the distribution). There is already a Debian package of mailman. If you install the package it will take care of the dependencies for you. As you can see from the description below, there are several python packages that need to be installed before mailman can function. % dpkg --print-avail mailman Package: mailman Priority: optional Section: mail Installed-Size: 1074 Maintainer: Gergely Madarasz <gorgo(a)caesar.elte.hu> Architecture: i386 Version: 1.0b9-1 Depends: libc6, python-base, python-misc, python-net, mail-transport-agent Recommends: cron (>= 3.0pl1-42), base-passwd (>= 1.3.0) Filename: dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/mail/mailman_1.0b9-1.deb Size: 241000 MD5sum: 38983a7b2b3882b60d79a2a134ced052 Description: Powerful, web based list processor The GNU Mailing List Manager, which manages email discussion lists much like Majordomo and Smartmail. Unlike most similar products, Mailman gives each mailing list a web page, and allows users to subscribe, unsubscribe, etc. over the web. Even the list manager can administer his or her list entirely from the web. . Mailman also integrates most things people want to do with mailing lists, including archiving, mail <-> news gateways, and so on. It has all of the features you expect from such a product, plus integrated support for the web (including web based archiving), automated bounce handling and integrated spam prevention. . For more information see http://www.list.org/.

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RE: [Mailman-Users] newbee question.
by Bos, P.G.J. - SPLXM March 24, 1999

March 24, 1999

Andy, Thanks for the response. > ---------- > From: Andy Carpenter[SMTP:Andy.Carpenter@cs.man.ac.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, 24 March, 1999 11:56 AM > To: mailman-users(a)python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] newbee question. > > When you compiled mailman you specified what group id it > would run under. This needs to match the group id that your > web server runs. It looks like your web server runs as group > staff (1), so you need to use this when you configure mailman > prior to compilation. Not quite so, my webserver runs as user nobody and group nobody, so I'm puzzled why mailman is complaining about GID=1. And where do I change this? cheers Pieter.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] newbee question.
by Andy Carpenter March 24, 1999

March 24, 1999

When you compiled mailman you specified what group id it would run under. This needs to match the group id that your web server runs. It looks like your web server runs as group staff (1), so you need to use this when you configure mailman prior to compilation. Andy. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Dr Andy Carpenter Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester, Manchester M13 9PL, UK Email: Andy.Carpenter(a)cs.man.ac.uk Tel: +44 161 275 6168 Fax: +44 161 275 6280 >hello * >as a newbee in mailman land, I'm experiencing the following problem: > >part of /var/log/maillog: > >Mar 24 10:24:43 spock sendmail[10486]: Received message KAA10486: from user >root: size is 40, class is 0, priority is 30040, and nrcpts=1, message id is ><199903240924.KAA10486(a)spock.xm.klm.nl>, relay=root@localhost >Mar 24 10:24:43 spock Mailman mail-wrapper: Failure to exec script. WANTED >gid 6, GOT gid 1. (Reconfigure to take 1?) >Mar 24 10:24:43 spock sendmail[15864]: KAA10486: >to="|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test_list", xdelay=00:00:00, >xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, stat=Unknown mailer error 2 >Mar 24 10:24:43 spock sendmail[15864]: KAA10486: KAA15864: postmaster >notify: Unknown mailer error 2 >Mar 24 10:24:43 spock sendmail[10492]: KAA15864: to=root, xdelay=00:00:00, >xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, stat=Sent > >mailman record of my /etc/passwd file: > >mailman:!:200:6::/home/mailman:/usr/bin/ksh > >the /etc/group file: > >system:!:0:root >staff:!:1:xm20pb >bin:!:2:root,bin >sys:!:3:root,bin,sys >adm:!:4:bin,adm >uucp:!:5:uucp >mail:!:6: >security:!:7:root >cron:!:8:root >printq:!:9: >audit:!:10:root >ecs:!:28: >nobody:!:4294967294:nobody,lpd >usr:!:100:guest >perf:!:20: >shutdown:!:21: >mailman:!:200:mailman > >permissions of the wrapper: > >-rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 42932 Mar 24 10:21 wrapper > >permissions of the /home/mailman/scripts directory: > >drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Mar 24 10:20 . >drwxrwsr-x 15 mailman mailman 512 Mar 22 18:07 .. >-rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 1496 Mar 24 10:20 answer_majordomo_mail >-rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 2101 Mar 24 10:19 contact_transport >-rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 5028 Mar 24 10:19 deliver >-rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 8258 Mar 24 10:20 driver >-rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 1251 Mar 24 10:19 dumb_deliver >-rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 1787 Mar 24 10:20 mailcmd >-rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 1756 Mar 24 10:20 mailowner >-rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 1521 Mar 24 10:19 paths.py >-rw-r--r-- 1 root mail 273 Mar 24 10:21 paths.pyc >-rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 2832 Mar 24 10:20 post > >Where do I have to take the appropriate actions to get thing working >properly. > >I have ran configure several times followed by make ; make install >The machine is IBM RS-6000 with AIX 4.2 and sendmail >spock.xm.klm.nl ESMTP Sendmail AIX4.2/UCB 8.7 >as shipped with AIX. > >Who can help me. > >regards Pieter. > > >-- >Pieter G.J. Bos >KLM Information Services >building 878 room 1346 >+31 (20) 6489313 >Schiphol Rijk >Po box 7700 >1117 ZL Schiphol Airport > > > >------------------------------------------------------ >Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users(a)python.org >http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > >

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newbee question.
by Bos, P.G.J. - SPLXM March 24, 1999

March 24, 1999

hello * as a newbee in mailman land, I'm experiencing the following problem: part of /var/log/maillog: Mar 24 10:24:43 spock sendmail[10486]: Received message KAA10486: from user root: size is 40, class is 0, priority is 30040, and nrcpts=1, message id is <199903240924.KAA10486(a)spock.xm.klm.nl>, relay=root@localhost Mar 24 10:24:43 spock Mailman mail-wrapper: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 6, GOT gid 1. (Reconfigure to take 1?) Mar 24 10:24:43 spock sendmail[15864]: KAA10486: to="|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test_list", xdelay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, stat=Unknown mailer error 2 Mar 24 10:24:43 spock sendmail[15864]: KAA10486: KAA15864: postmaster notify: Unknown mailer error 2 Mar 24 10:24:43 spock sendmail[10492]: KAA15864: to=root, xdelay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, stat=Sent mailman record of my /etc/passwd file: mailman:!:200:6::/home/mailman:/usr/bin/ksh the /etc/group file: system:!:0:root staff:!:1:xm20pb bin:!:2:root,bin sys:!:3:root,bin,sys adm:!:4:bin,adm uucp:!:5:uucp mail:!:6: security:!:7:root cron:!:8:root printq:!:9: audit:!:10:root ecs:!:28: nobody:!:4294967294:nobody,lpd usr:!:100:guest perf:!:20: shutdown:!:21: mailman:!:200:mailman permissions of the wrapper: -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 42932 Mar 24 10:21 wrapper permissions of the /home/mailman/scripts directory: drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Mar 24 10:20 . drwxrwsr-x 15 mailman mailman 512 Mar 22 18:07 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 1496 Mar 24 10:20 answer_majordomo_mail -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 2101 Mar 24 10:19 contact_transport -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 5028 Mar 24 10:19 deliver -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 8258 Mar 24 10:20 driver -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 1251 Mar 24 10:19 dumb_deliver -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 1787 Mar 24 10:20 mailcmd -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 1756 Mar 24 10:20 mailowner -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 1521 Mar 24 10:19 paths.py -rw-r--r-- 1 root mail 273 Mar 24 10:21 paths.pyc -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 2832 Mar 24 10:20 post Where do I have to take the appropriate actions to get thing working properly. I have ran configure several times followed by make ; make install The machine is IBM RS-6000 with AIX 4.2 and sendmail spock.xm.klm.nl ESMTP Sendmail AIX4.2/UCB 8.7 as shipped with AIX. Who can help me. regards Pieter. -- Pieter G.J. Bos KLM Information Services building 878 room 1346 +31 (20) 6489313 Schiphol Rijk Po box 7700 1117 ZL Schiphol Airport

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How about this for the error message?
by Dan Delaney March 24, 1999

March 24, 1999

This is what Mailman returns for by sig if I don't put an "end" command": >>>> --Dan **** --dan: Command UNKNOWN. >>>> ____________________________________________________________________________ **** ____________________________________________________________________________: Command UNKNOWN. >>>> Daniel G. Delaney * Dionysos(a)Dionysia.org * www.Dionysia.org/~dionysos **** daniel: Command UNKNOWN. >>>> PGP Public Key: http://Dionysia.org/~dionysos/pgp5.html **** pgp: Command UNKNOWN. >>>> "Only two things are infinite: the universe and stupidity-- **** "only: Command UNKNOWN. >>>> and I'm not sure about the former." **** and: Command UNKNOWN. >>>> --Albert Einstein **** --albert: Command UNKNOWN. That's pretty darn obtrusive, and a little daunting to average Joe Shmoe computer user who gets nervous when the computer starts yelling at him about errors. So, how about the following instead? Unrecognized line: --Dan Unrecognized line: _______________________________ Unrecognized line: Daniel G. Delaney * Dionysos@ Unrecognized line: PGP Public Key: http://Dionysia Unrecognized line: "Only two things are infinite: Unrecognized line: and I'm not sure about the form Unrecognized line: --Albert Einstein That's so much easier to look at, and it conveys the message--that the mail server didn't recognize those lines. Note that it should only returns the first 40 or so characters of the line instead of the whole thing. Here's another idea. Petidomo will STOP parsing the message for commands if it gets FOUR unrecognized lines in a row. I think that's a pretty darn good idea. You could even simply put a little message after the fourth "Unrecognized line" message that says "Ignoring remainder of message." What's everyone think? Should this idea go to the dev list instead? If so, could someone who's also on that list please forward it over there? Cheers. --Dan ____________________________________________________________________________ Daniel G. Delaney * Dionysos(a)Dionysia.org * www.Dionysia.org/~dionysos PGP Public Key: http://Dionysia.org/~dionysos/pgp5.html "Only two things are infinite: the universe and stupidity-- and I'm not sure about the former." --Albert Einstein

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Converting existing archives
by Doug Hughes March 23, 1999

March 23, 1999

Anybody have a script for converting an existing smartlist type archive to a mailman archive? Probably not too hard. But if somebody already has a script, saves me from reinventing the wheel. Doug Hughes Engineering Network Services doug(a)eng.auburn.edu Auburn University

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How does Mailman use identd?
by J C Lawrence March 23, 1999

March 23, 1999

On Tue, 23 Mar 1999 12:51:42 -0600 Paul Barnett <ptb(a)home.ptb.org> wrote: > I meant that the authentication failed, because the packets were > blocked by default. But, it wasn't a fatal error -- the message > was still passed and the subscription succeeded. All I have to do > is add a rule to admit the packets if I want to do so -- identd is > still configured in /etc/inetd.conf. There are versions of identd which will forward the request to internal servers (pidentd?), or which will operate off their own non-/etc/passwd data in answering the reply. Poke about freshmeat and other such and you hsould find them. > Thanks for the info. Welcome. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw(a)kanga.nu ---------(*) Internet: claw(a)varesearch.com ..Honorary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith...

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How does Mailman use identd?
by Paul Barnett March 23, 1999

March 23, 1999

>This is just an MTA doing authentication and logging of its mail >traffic. A Good Thing. Ah, so it wasn't Mailman. It's probably sendmail/qmail/etc. >> It obviously failed.. > >Actually non-obviously. It is not difficult to configure a suitable >identd daemon on a firewall to give useful returns. I meant that the authentication failed, because the packets were blocked by default. But, it wasn't a fatal error -- the message was still passed and the subscription succeeded. All I have to do is add a rule to admit the packets if I want to do so -- identd is still configured in /etc/inetd.conf. Thanks for the info.

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Address Format
by Richard B. Pyne March 23, 1999

March 23, 1999

One other thought, what would it take to get mailman to store full RFC822 addresses such as: "User Name" <username(a)domain.tld> There are a lot of list users who's email addresses have little or no relationship to their real names and it would be nice to be able to (at least as an option) show their name in a subscriber list. ------------------------------ Richard B. Pyne, KB7RMU rpyne(a)kinfolk.org http://pyne.kinfolk.org/rbp2

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