Mailman 3 September 2000 - Mailman-Users

RE: [Mailman-Users] /home/mailman/logs/smtp-failures (fwd)
by Chris Hedemark Sept. 27, 2000

Sept. 27, 2000

OK I had a nearly fully functioning list server with 2.0beta2. The upgrade to 2.0beta6 was prompted by a problem with archiving (it wasn't archiving messages). It was actually sending messages just fine. With 2.0beta6 we have archiving, but messages aren't moving. I've tried sending mail from this box using "pine" and "mail" and it works fine. I'm going to have a bunch of relevant logs posted shortly. -----Original Message----- From: F. Winter [mailto:winter@PHYSnet.uni-hamburg.de] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 10:09 AM To: Chris Hedemark Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] /home/mailman/logs/smtp-failures (fwd) Hi Chris! > The weird thing is, I didn't have this problem with 2.0beta2. It started > when I got the 2.0beta6 installed. > Do you mean that you have exactly the same problem that no list works with 2.0beta6 ? I tried 1.1stable although. The same result. > -----Original Message----- > From: F. Winter [mailto:winter@PHYSnet.uni-hamburg.de] > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 9:46 AM > To: mailman-users(a)python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] /home/mailman/logs/smtp-failures (fwd) > > > Hi guys! > > The problem Dan has sounds exactly like my one: > > The first "test" mailing list does not send the notification > email either. I have the same logs in smtp, smtp-failure and > post every minute. > > I run Tru64 UNIX 4.0f. Python 1.5.2 and Mailman 2.0beta6 > and exim 3.16 > > Yes, I installed the crontab under the user mailman. And I > followed the HOWTO "exim and mailman" found at www.exim.org. > > I tried with installing the aliases into system-alias and > without it. Nothing changed. The first notificaten email > does not arrive. There are no entries in exim's log files. > > Any suggestions? > > > -- > Frank Winter Tel.: +(49)-40-42838-2404 > PHYSnet RZ Email: winter(a)PHYSnet.uni-hamburg.de > Uni Hamburg > Jungiusstr. 9 > D-20355 Hamburg > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 17:16:39 -0700 (PDT) > From: Dan Mick <Dan.Mick(a)West.Sun.COM> > To: mailman-users(a)python.org, hedemark(a)bops.com > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] /home/mailman/logs/smtp-failures > > What is your MTA, and what do its logs say? > > > OK I did the upgrade to 2.0beta6 and all hell has broken loose. Followed > > INSTALL and UPGRADE but something is still wrong. > > > > My smtp-failures log is full of stuff like this: > > > > Sep 26 13:05:02 2000 (1549) -1 hedemark(a)bops.com (ignore) > > > > There is one log entry for every mailing list subscriber, and this gets > > updated every minute. Looks like lots of stuff is backed up in the queue > > and not going out. Have tried recompiling Mailman to no avail. This is > on > > a Red Hat 6.2 system. > > > > FWIW, it is doing a decent job of archiving my pile of test messages. > > Though nobody is actually getting the test messages. > > > > Thanks for being patient with me guys. > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users(a)python.org > http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users(a)python.org > http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users(a)python.org > http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >

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RE: [Mailman-Users] migration from ezmlm
by Gregory Leblanc Sept. 27, 2000

Sept. 27, 2000

> -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Southworth [mailto:pauls@etext.org] > > Has anyone taken some notes on converting from qmail/ezmlm to mailman? > If so, I'd like to hear from you. > > My biggest concern is handling the listname-subscribe and > listname-unsubscribe addresses so I can avoid having to completely > reeducate a large subscriber base. With ezmlm, a user can > send an empty > message to listname-subscribe to be added to a list, or > listname-unsubscribe to be removed. From reading the mailman docs, it > seems like this feature is missing. If I assume incorrectly, > or if anyone > has hacked it together, I'd like to hear from you. Procmail is your friend. :-) As of right now Mailman doesn't have that built in, but it's easy enough to hack something on top. Just make some aliases for listname-subscribe/unsubscribe, and have procmail re-write those messages to send a message to listname-request with subscribe <email> in the message (I can't remember if it's subject or body, maybe it doesn't matter). Greg

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RE: [Mailman-Users] /home/mailman/logs/smtp-failures (fwd)
by Chris Hedemark Sept. 27, 2000

Sept. 27, 2000

The weird thing is, I didn't have this problem with 2.0beta2. It started when I got the 2.0beta6 installed. -----Original Message----- From: F. Winter [mailto:winter@PHYSnet.uni-hamburg.de] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 9:46 AM To: mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] /home/mailman/logs/smtp-failures (fwd) Hi guys! The problem Dan has sounds exactly like my one: The first "test" mailing list does not send the notification email either. I have the same logs in smtp, smtp-failure and post every minute. I run Tru64 UNIX 4.0f. Python 1.5.2 and Mailman 2.0beta6 and exim 3.16 Yes, I installed the crontab under the user mailman. And I followed the HOWTO "exim and mailman" found at www.exim.org. I tried with installing the aliases into system-alias and without it. Nothing changed. The first notificaten email does not arrive. There are no entries in exim's log files. Any suggestions? -- Frank Winter Tel.: +(49)-40-42838-2404 PHYSnet RZ Email: winter(a)PHYSnet.uni-hamburg.de Uni Hamburg Jungiusstr. 9 D-20355 Hamburg ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 17:16:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Mick <Dan.Mick(a)West.Sun.COM> To: mailman-users(a)python.org, hedemark(a)bops.com Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] /home/mailman/logs/smtp-failures What is your MTA, and what do its logs say? > OK I did the upgrade to 2.0beta6 and all hell has broken loose. Followed > INSTALL and UPGRADE but something is still wrong. > > My smtp-failures log is full of stuff like this: > > Sep 26 13:05:02 2000 (1549) -1 hedemark(a)bops.com (ignore) > > There is one log entry for every mailing list subscriber, and this gets > updated every minute. Looks like lots of stuff is backed up in the queue > and not going out. Have tried recompiling Mailman to no avail. This is on > a Red Hat 6.2 system. > > FWIW, it is doing a decent job of archiving my pile of test messages. > Though nobody is actually getting the test messages. > > Thanks for being patient with me guys. ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

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Re: [Mailman-Users] /home/mailman/logs/smtp-failures (fwd)
by F. Winter Sept. 27, 2000

Sept. 27, 2000

Hi guys! The problem Dan has sounds exactly like my one: The first "test" mailing list does not send the notification email either. I have the same logs in smtp, smtp-failure and post every minute. I run Tru64 UNIX 4.0f. Python 1.5.2 and Mailman 2.0beta6 and exim 3.16 Yes, I installed the crontab under the user mailman. And I followed the HOWTO "exim and mailman" found at www.exim.org. I tried with installing the aliases into system-alias and without it. Nothing changed. The first notificaten email does not arrive. There are no entries in exim's log files. Any suggestions? -- Frank Winter Tel.: +(49)-40-42838-2404 PHYSnet RZ Email: winter(a)PHYSnet.uni-hamburg.de Uni Hamburg Jungiusstr. 9 D-20355 Hamburg ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 17:16:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Mick <Dan.Mick(a)West.Sun.COM> To: mailman-users(a)python.org, hedemark(a)bops.com Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] /home/mailman/logs/smtp-failures What is your MTA, and what do its logs say? > OK I did the upgrade to 2.0beta6 and all hell has broken loose. Followed > INSTALL and UPGRADE but something is still wrong. > > My smtp-failures log is full of stuff like this: > > Sep 26 13:05:02 2000 (1549) -1 hedemark(a)bops.com (ignore) > > There is one log entry for every mailing list subscriber, and this gets > updated every minute. Looks like lots of stuff is backed up in the queue > and not going out. Have tried recompiling Mailman to no avail. This is on > a Red Hat 6.2 system. > > FWIW, it is doing a decent job of archiving my pile of test messages. > Though nobody is actually getting the test messages. > > Thanks for being patient with me guys. ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

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migration from ezmlm
by Paul Southworth Sept. 27, 2000

Sept. 27, 2000

Has anyone taken some notes on converting from qmail/ezmlm to mailman? If so, I'd like to hear from you. My biggest concern is handling the listname-subscribe and listname-unsubscribe addresses so I can avoid having to completely reeducate a large subscriber base. With ezmlm, a user can send an empty message to listname-subscribe to be added to a list, or listname-unsubscribe to be removed. From reading the mailman docs, it seems like this feature is missing. If I assume incorrectly, or if anyone has hacked it together, I'd like to hear from you. --Paul

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman2.0beta6 and exim
by Nigel Metheringham Sept. 27, 2000

Sept. 27, 2000

winter(a)PHYSnet.uni-hamburg.de said: > The thing that does not work is that the admin notification never > reaches its destination. > Sep 26 23:22:06 2000 (30258) All recipients refused: host not found > Sep 26 23:22:07 2000 (30258) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.056 seconds Look in your exim log file - for me thats /var/log/exim/main.log but it tends to vary between installations. I would guess that either the sender address - <listname> -admin(a)your.domain (and Mailman needs to be have been told the right domain for the list), or the administrator recipient address cannot be resolved by exim, so it is bouncing the message at smtp time. Other points... - Make sure your MTA actually delivers mail correctly on your system before getting into mailman stuff - Make sure the MTA knows about all the list domains - Make sure you restarted or sent a kill -HUP to the running exim daemon - this will really bite you this way since the daemon may be using the old version of the config file with different set ups and maybe local domains whilst your exim config looks fine and works fine when you start up processes to test it. Nigel. -- [ - Opinions expressed are personal and may not be shared by VData - ] [ Nigel Metheringham Nigel.Metheringham(a)VData.co.uk ] [ Phone: +44 1423 850000 Fax +44 1423 858866 ]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] help on subscribing without confirm or approval
by J C Lawrence Sept. 27, 2000

Sept. 27, 2000

On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 21:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Yee Siew Chin <siew_chin(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > how can i configure that mailman will works on subscribing > without confirm or approval? This is currently not possible without editing the Mailman source. -- J C Lawrence Home: claw(a)kanga.nu ---------(*) Other: coder(a)kanga.nu http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Keys etc: finger claw(a)kanga.nu --=| A man is as sane as he is dangerous to his environment |=--

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2.0beta6 archive failure
by Roger B.A. Klorese Sept. 27, 2000

Sept. 27, 2000

I just did a scratch install and set up my test list. Permissions claimed to be OK, but my first attempt to post to a test list yields: Sep 26 22:38:51 2000 (2659) Archive file access failure: /home2/mailman/home/archives/private/demo-list.mbox/demo-list.mbox (0, 'Error') Sep 26 22:38:51 2000 (2659) Delivery exception: (0, 'Error') Sep 26 22:38:51 2000 (2659) Traceback (innermost last): File "/home2/mailman/home/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py", line 82, in do_pipeline func(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/home2/mailman/home/Mailman/Handlers/ToArchive.py", line 47, in process mlist.ArchiveMail(msg, msgdata) File "/home2/mailman/home/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 189, in ArchiveMail self.__archive_to_mbox(msg) File "/home2/mailman/home/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 160, in __archive_to_mbox mbox.AppendMessage(post) File "/home2/mailman/home/Mailman/Mailbox.py", line 41, in AppendMessage self.fp.seek(-1, 2) IOError: (0, 'Error') ...am I missing anything obvious? BSD/OS 3.1 (yeah, yeah, I know), python 1.5.2. -- ROGER B.A. KLORESE rogerk(a)QueerNet.ORG PO Box 14309 San Francisco, CA 94114 "There is only one real blasphemy -- the refusal of joy!" -- Paul Rudnick

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help on subscribing without confirm or approval
by Yee Siew Chin Sept. 27, 2000

Sept. 27, 2000

hi how can i configure that mailman will works on subscribing without confirm or approval? rgds, Siew Chin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Mailman-Users] /home/mailman/logs/smtp-failures
by Dan Mick Sept. 26, 2000

Sept. 26, 2000

What is your MTA, and what do its logs say? > OK I did the upgrade to 2.0beta6 and all hell has broken loose. Followed > INSTALL and UPGRADE but something is still wrong. > > My smtp-failures log is full of stuff like this: > > Sep 26 13:05:02 2000 (1549) -1 hedemark(a)bops.com (ignore) > > There is one log entry for every mailing list subscriber, and this gets > updated every minute. Looks like lots of stuff is backed up in the queue > and not going out. Have tried recompiling Mailman to no avail. This is on > a Red Hat 6.2 system. > > FWIW, it is doing a decent job of archiving my pile of test messages. > Though nobody is actually getting the test messages. > > Thanks for being patient with me guys.

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