Mailman 3 December 2003 - Mailman-Users

MAILMAN + OUTLOOK
by Tercio Eulalio de A. Fonseca 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

Hi ALL, Some users in my company had their outlook configurated for break messages greater than 100k (for example). When someone send a 200K message, the outlook divide it in 2 parts, deliver to mailman and the mailman deliver 2 messages to the mailman users and the Outlook of this users doesn´t join the messages in 1. But when I send this same 200k message to a single person the outlook join the 2 parts. It´s happening because the READERS that the mailman put in the messages??? Thanks, Tércio Eulálio de A. Fonsêca Administrador de Redes Coordenadoria de Produção e Suporte - SI - TRE-PE 0xx81 3424-8686 ramal 242, tercio(a)tre-pe.gov.br

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Email Subject commands
by Evan M. Dechtman 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

I have recently installed Mailman 2.1 and cannot find the Email subject commands to subscribe and unscribes etc...can you help out? Thanks, Evan

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Personalisation
by Christian Schoepplein 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

Hi! What do I have to set in mm_cfg-py to enable personalisation by default for new lists (not full personalisation). In listconfigs i saw, that personalize = 1 would be the thing to set, but is it possible to use this setting in mm_cfg.py? Thanks! Schoeppi -- Christian Schoepplein | Beste Rockband der Welt: http://www.lily-rockt.de mail at schoeppi.net | Linux fuer Blinde: http://www.blinux.suse.de

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Mailman Preprocessor Available - seeking feedback
by darwin＠desktopengineer.com 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

Hello, Below is the description of a preprocessor script I wrote for mailman. I was looking to emulate the Topica.com features of "<list>-subscribe", "<list>-unsubscribe" and "<list>-post-<password>" in an efficient and extensible manner. I am seeking feedback on the script and I have two areas that are troubling right now: *) I still get a succesful completion AND an error message back from mailman when sending to "<list>-unsubscribe" (yet I don't get one when sending to "<list>-unsubscribe" which *should* process exactly the same way. I know I coiuld re-write the entire message - but I am wondering if there is a way to make unsubscribe work the same way as subscribe and post - by doing replacements to the inbound message. *) I am wondering if there is a way to alter all the messages sent out by mailman to match my configuration. There are some in "Templates" - but others seem hardcoded. Right now I am tied to Mailman 2.0.13 due to needing to stay compliant with the RedHat 2.1AS distribution. The script can be found at http://desktopengineer.com/mmpreproc Thanks for any time anyone can take to send feedback, D. # This script pre-processes mail commands to mailman to faciliate announcement lists and easy subscribe and unsubscribe. # It modifies the list behavior as follows: # *) unsubscribes only made through the alias <list>-subscribe(a)domain.com and automatically sets users password to their email # *) unsubscribes only made through the alias <list>-unsubscribe(a)domain.com and automatically unsubscribes with no confirm, email=password is assumed # *) posting to the list can only be done through a special alias that includes a password component such as <list>-post-<password>@domain.com. # The list can be configured for moderation and only allow a specific list of emails to be automatically approved. Since it is recommended # that you delete the <list>@domain.com alias, using this method prevents the need to moderate messages that try to use the standard posting # alias - even if you do not allow auto approval of posts to specific email addresses. # *) This script accomplishes its objectives by having the mail message piped to it and then it pipes the message into the standard mailman wrapper for # processing. This is more efficient than re-mailing back to the same system. In addition, since the program simply does regex substitutions to # inbound message headers, the posting password alias can work easily with complex messages that include mime sections because the entire message does not # need to pass through mail again and therefore be disassembled, reassembled and then emailed correctly. # *) Many other modifications could be made for preprocessing mailman commands and posts - the script design is modular and dynamic - it pulls apart the # mail aliases components (seperate by "-" character) and decides what to do with the message based on these components. # Install # *) Tested with mailman 2.0.13 (Redhat 2.1AS Version) # *) Ensure you have Mail:Mailer (mailtools) installed if you wish to have error notification or debug emails sent, or rewrite the email section # to suite your system. # *) Copy mmprepoc.pl to <mailmanroot>/mail (e.g. "cp mmpreproc.pl /path/to/mailman/mail") # *) Change ownership to the mailman user (e.g. "chown mailman mmpreproc.pl") # *) Change security to be executable (e.g. "chmod 755 mmpreproc.pl") # *) For sendmail create a link in the /etc/smrsh directory (e.g. "ln -s /path/to/mailman/mail/mmpreproc.pl") # *) Set $mailmanpath - this should be the directory with all your mailman subdirectories (including "bin") in it. # *) Set $blockrequests - if set to "1" this script blocks all <list>-request(a)domain.com messages except replys to # subscription confirmations. # *) Set $emaildiscards, $emailerrors, $emaildebug and $emailnotifyaddress if you wish to use email notification. # Configure Mailman (note your lists cannot have a "-" character in their name): # *) add the list alias <listname>-subscribe: "|/path/to/mailman/mail/mmpreproc.pl" # *) add the list alias <listname>-unsubscribe: "|/path/to/mailman/mail/mmpreproc.pl" # Configure Mailman: If using the post-password alias feature # *) add the list alias <listname>-post-<password>: "|/path/to/mailman/mail/subprocessor" # *) remove the list alias <list> or send it to null so that you don't have to moderate messages sent there. # *) in mail man set posting to the list to be only allowed from members of the list and setup any auto-approval email # addresses. It won't matter that users can see your auto approved email when receiving messages because they cannot # tell that you used a special alias to send the message rather than <list>@domain.com

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mailman
by Marquise Williams 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

How you doing. We have mail man already on the server we use for our website and we were trying to send out E-mails to people....but all we keep getting is an E-mail to the moderators asking to approve or deny. When we go to do that there is nothing there. Nobody ever gets the E-mail but they sit in the archives. Any help would be much appreciated. Marquise This is the message moderators get: As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the following mailing list posting: List: Updates(a)essdub.com From: mrrictor(a)aol.com Subject: The Week of Sol Uprising - Sol Power Reason: Post to moderated list At your convenience, visit: http://essdub.com/mailman/admindb/updates_essdub.com to approve or deny the request. _____ Subj: The Week of Sol Uprising - Sol Power Date: 12/1/2003 5:54:33 AM Eastern Standard Time From: MrRictor(a)aol.com To: Updates(a)essdub.com WWW.ESSDUB.COM <http://www.essdub.com/> :: WWW.SHAMANWORK.COM <http://www.shamanwork.com/> :: WWW.SOLUPRISING.COM <http://www.soluprising.com/> Peace to all Shaman Work/ESSDUB.com fans and supporters... We are about to enter a big week for Shaman Work Recordings with the worldwide release of Sol Uprising's (www.soluprising.com <http://www.soluprising.com/> ) incredible album - Sol Power. The album will be in most stores worldwide on Tuesday Dec. 2nd. This album is the brainchild of Sol Uprising's Lil Sci and Stacy Epps with the majority of the production being handled by ID 4Windz (www.inviziblehandz.com <http://www.inviziblehandz.com/> ). Also on production are Detroit's Lacks aka Ta'Raach, Suns of Light, and others... ESSDUB.com will soon be offering the Sol Uprising album with their exclusive mix-cd - Rise Up - which was beautifully mixed by Atlanta's Digital DJs... Another exclusive goodie to look out for are the extremely hot Sol Uprising wristbands (available in red, black, and green and red, gold, and green). It'll be hard to find the Sol Uprising album for a cheaper price anywhere else online... SO COP FROM US!... Plus we'll get it to you faster. Other titles to make sure to pick up from ESSDUB.com are: Sol Uprising - "We Ourself and Us" 12" (Vinyl) MF DOOM - Special Herbs Vol. 456 (CD and 2LP) MF DOOM (King Geedorah) - Take Me To Your Leader (Autographed CD) Wale Oyejide - Broken Jazz 101 (CD) Wale Oyejide - "Kaya" 12" (Vinyl) Lacks oka Ta'Raach - Re:Lacks Instrumentals (Vinyl) Lacks - Re:Lacks Vol. 1 With The World (CD) The Alpha Projects (Both Volumes 1 and 2) Peace, ESSDUB.com, Shaman Work Recordings, and Crew E-mail: store(a)essdub.com Message board: www.alphabeats.com/forum/phpBB2 Web: www.essdub.com <http://www.essdub.com/> www.shamanwork.com <http://www.shamanwork.com/> www.craftedmusic.com <http://www.craftedmusic.com/> www.alphabeats.com <http://www.alphabeats.com/> www.battleofthebeats.com <http://www.battleofthebeats.com/> www.politix.net <http://www.politix.net/> www.craftedsports.com (coming soon) _____ Subj: confirm 4aafd115d611e667e71b437921997dcc1d8b9e08 From: Updates-request(a)essdub.com If you reply to this message, keeping the Subject: header intact, Mailman will discard the held message. Do this if the message is spam. If you reply to this message and include an Approved: header with the list password in it, the message will be approved for posting to the list. The Approved: header can also appear in the first line of the body of the reply. <http://webmail.aol.com/msgview.adp?folder=SU5CT1g=&seq=5&cmd=markunread &msguid=7164147> <http://webmail.aol.com/msgview.adp?folder=SU5CT1g=&seq=5&cmd=deletemsgs &msguid=7164147> <http://webmail.aol.com/fmsgview.adp?folder=SU5CT1g=&uid=7164147> <http://webmail.aol.com/msgview.adp?folder=SU5CT1g=&moveto=U2F2ZWQ=&seq= 5&cmd=movemsgs> <http://webmail.aol.com/msgview.adp?folder=SU5CT1g=&seq=4> 5 of 109 <http://webmail.aol.com/msgview.adp?folder=SU5CT1g=&seq=6> Include original text in reply.

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Moderator bit
by gagel＠cnc.bc.ca 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

I have a set my site to default all new members of any list to be moderated. One list wants it set off by default and has manually switched each subscriber's mod bit to off. But it still requires the subcribers messages to be aproved. Whats going on with that? ==================== Kevin W. Gagel Network Administrator (250) 561-5848 local 448 (250) 562-2131 local 448 -------------------------------------------------------------- The College of New Caledonia, Visit us at http://www.cnc.bc.ca Virus scanning is done on all incoming and outgoing email. --------------------------------------------------------------

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Umbrella Lists
by Mike Hogsett 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

I am currently installing Mailman as a replacement for majordomo. Mostly everything is going smoothly. I have a question regarding umbrella lists. I have 4 "real" mailing lists and 5 aliases that redirect to some or all of these lists. For the sake of explanation let's call the "real" lists : A-staff A-vis B-staff B-vis The 5 aliases are (and send to -> ) all -> A-staff, B-staff, A-vis, B-vis all-staff -> A-staff, B-staff all-vis -> A-vis, B-vis A-all -> A-staff, A-vis B-all -> B-staff, B-vis The 4 "real" lists are all moderated due to increasing spam and forged addresses. The problem: If a message goes to one of the aliases then the message must be moderated at-least twice or at worst four times. I would like to moderate a message once. What solutions are available? Are there solutions entirely within the scope of Mailman? I have instrumented a solution using umbrella lists (for the aliases) and some clever procmail rules, but would like to know what others have done in similar situations. Thanks, Michael Hogsett

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Create list without Hostname
by donovan 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

Greetings How can i create a list with out having the hostname of the server displayed in the list? example: I create a new list and it shows up as " newlist(a)server1.mydomain.com " How can i get it to create newlist(a)mydomain.com by default? I am using OSX 10.3.1 TIA --jeff

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archives url problem
by Lányi Róbert 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

Hi! I've successfully installed Mailman-2.1.3 for the first time, everything works fine, only one thing doesn't: when I try to get my list's private archives, after entering email address and password, the links (thread, subject etc.) are pointing to invalid addresses: the list's name parts are missing. For example, instead of the correct url (http://some-host/mailman/private/listname/2003-November.txt) an incorrect one is shown (http://some-host/mailman/private/2003-November.txt). Please help me solving this problem Thx Robyn

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admin fuction discard not working.
by Chris Johnson 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

Hi, running Mailman v 2.1-8 here on rh7.3 w/ python 1.5.2-43.73. Simply, the Discard function on the list admin page isn't working. As I understand the process, I click on Discard and th Submit all and it's supoosed to dump the message or messages. Ain't happenin'. Message is still being held and won't go away. Would very much like to get ride of this message so the now annoying alert notices that tell mail daily there is a held message in the queue is still there would stop. Help appreciated. Tnx. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Johnson |Internet: johnson(a)nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Systems Administrator |Web: http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/~johnson NMR Center |Voice: 617.726.0949 Mass. General Hospital |FAX: 617.726.7422 149 (2301) 13th Street |I'm continually amazed by mankind's seemingly Charlestown, MA., 02129 USA |infinite capacity for stupidity. Me -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Mailman-Users December 2003