Mailman 3 April 2003 - Mailman-Users

Editing real_name
by John Grafflin May 9, 2003

May 9, 2003

Under CPanel, Mailing Lists, General Options the very first option is to change the case of the public name. It is currently listed as Startpagedepot.com. I want to change it to StartPageDepot.com, but I get the following message at the top of the screen when I do: real_name attribute not changed! It must differ from the list's name by case only.

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changing email address
by Florian Effenberger May 7, 2003

May 7, 2003

Hello, I run Mailman 2.1.2. On the http://MYDOMAIN/mailman/listinfo/ website, I see a message like "Direct questions or comments to mailman@MYDOMAIN". How can I change that mail address? Thanks! Florian

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Subscribing to List 1 automatically subscribes user to List 2
by Raymond Wood May 5, 2003

May 5, 2003

Hello mailman-users, I'm writing to ask your collective advice about how best to arrange it so that when a user subscribes to one list (say, MAIN), then they automatically get subscribed to a second list (say, ANNOUNCE). One issue here is that there may be people who want to subscribe to ANNOUNCE who do not want to subscribe to MAIN :) Otherwise a solution would likely be much easier to find... Here are some ideas that have surfaced: 1. Subscribe the list MAIN itself to list ANNOUNCE. If this will work, I assume we would have to configure carefully to make sure that duplicate posts are not sent out :) 2. Hack together some shell script, run as a cron job, that would automatically subscribe MAIN newcomers to the ANNOUNCE list. 3. I also read a brief reference in the Mailman documentation to something called 'Umbrella Lists' -- not sure whether this is useful to what we want to do or not though. I am currently assuming that #1 above is the simplest, unless there are hidden gotchas. Has anyone on this list tried #1 before, or know whether it is possible? If anyone has a better idea I am all ears :) Basically I'm trying to find the most elegant solution possible to get MAIN list subscribers automagically subscribed to the ANNOUNCE list. Thanks in advance for your input, Cheers, Raymond

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public and private archives problem
by Kory Wheatley May 5, 2003

May 5, 2003

I'm getting this below error when an user tries to open up there archives. I've run check_perms and all the permissions are correct. When I change the archive options on this list to public I get this below error when I change it back to private I can view the threaded archives fine, is there a solution to this. I've tested this with my other lists and it does the same thing. There most be something that I've got configured wrong that a list can't be setup to view the archives in the (public) setting. ACCESS DENIED ! You don't have permission to access the requested directory. There is either no index document or the directory is read-protected. If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster ERROR 403 mm.isu.edu Wed Apr 30 11:47:13 2003 Apache/2.0.40 (Red Hat Linux) -- Kory Wheatley Academic Computing Analyst Sr. Phone 282-3874 ######################################### Everything must point to him.

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public/private searching
by Tomasz Finc May 5, 2003

May 5, 2003

Currently I run mailman for about 50 lists or so. I would like to set up mailman to be able to search through all of the archives and bring up matching mails. I've heard of intergrating it with htdip and Mhonarc but I know this wont allow for lists that are marked private. Is there any way to organize searching to go through all lists that a person belongs to .. perhaps based on cookies.. instead of just the public ones... One alternative i can see is if i place searching inside each list and have a seperate db for each one. I would really like to avoid this since searching across multiple lists at the same time is what i really want. --tomasz

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qrunner dying
by Kysh May 4, 2003

May 4, 2003

Ok, I'll try to keep this as short as possible. (I have skimmed the archives, I have dug around for months on the internet trying to find a reference. I have asked on the IRC channel, all to no avail) I've been running mailman for years and years now. I've been upgrading along the way, and am currently running 2.1.1-5. Sometime back in December (May have been around the time of an upgrade, can't remember), my qrunner took a vacation. I didn't notice for a few days until dozens of users started emailing me frantically. I've upgraded quite a few times since then, but since then: When I run maimanctl start, qrunner only lasts about three seconds. Apr 29 00:21:05 2003 (26359) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 26362, sig: None, sts: 1, class: CommandRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Apr 29 00:21:05 2003 (26359) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 26361, sig: None, sts: 1, class: BounceRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] [snip] ... [snip] Apr 29 00:21:08 2003 (26359) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 26432, sig: None, sts: 1, class: ArchRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Apr 29 00:21:08 2003 (26359) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 26438, sig: None, sts: 1, class: ArchRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Apr 29 00:21:08 2003 (26359) Qrunner ArchRunner reached maximum restart limit of 10, not restarting. Apr 29 00:21:08 2003 (26359) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 26437, sig: None, sts: 1, class: VirginRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Apr 29 00:21:08 2003 (26359) Qrunner VirginRunner reached maximum restart limit of 10, not restarting. Apr 29 00:21:08 2003 (26359) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 26436, sig: None, sts: 1, class: NewsRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Apr 29 00:21:08 2003 (26359) Qrunner NewsRunner reached maximum restart limit of 10, not restarting. I tried upping the maximum restart limit to an arbitrarily high number, but qrunner just didn't really work at all. However, if I run /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner -r All, everything works great. (Except that after a while, it starts eating up more and more CPU time) I've checked all the easy stuff, and I'm stumped. I don't know python that well, and this whole thing gives me a bit of a headache. :> Any thoughts? (reinstalling is DEFINIETLY not an option, with the number of users and lists that I have!) -Kysh -- .+------------------------------------------------------------+. | 'Life begins at 120kias' - http://www.lapdragon.org/flying | | CBR-F4 streetbike - http://www.lapdragon.org/cbr | | 1968 Mustang fastback - http://www.lapdragon.org/mustang | | Got 'nix? - http://www.infrastructure.org/ | | KG6FOB - http://www.lapdragon.org/ham | | Give blood: Play Hockey! http://www.unixdragon.com/ | `+------------------------------------------------------------+'

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[resend] Could not acquire qrunner lock
by Josep L. Guallar-Esteve May 2, 2003

May 2, 2003

Hi, I send this email about a week ago. Does anyone know anything about this problem? ------------ We use mailman at work to manage a few lists (16) with an average of 10 users/list. The mail server is a Red Hat Linux 7.3 server, on a P-III-550/1,354,424KB with SCSI drives using ext3 filesystem. We run Postfix version 1.1.7-2 + Mailman version 2.0.13 + Python 1.5.2-43.73. We have a total of 75 mail users. The messages are text-based, i.e., usualy pretty small. Postfix works pretty fast. But mailman is slow. Mails to mailing lists take about 6 minutes. Individual mails are about instantaneous: Received: from ************ by by ********* (Postfix) with ESMTP id *******; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 12:54:22 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: sysadmin(a)easternrad.com Received: from ****** by ******** (Postfix) with SMTP id ********* for <mailinglist@**********>; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 12:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Although the smtp log says that it only takes a few seconds: (...) Apr 23 07:12:02 2003 (28717) smtp for 6 recips, completed in 1.588 seconds Apr 23 10:56:10 2003 (30680) smtp for 31 recips, completed in 7.995 seconds Apr 23 12:54:23 2003 (31998) smtp for 5 recips, completed in 2.410 seconds (...) I've checked mailman logs and I've found this error, over and over again, at qrunner log file: (...) Apr 22 23:53:01 2003 (25973) Could not acquire qrunner lock Apr 22 23:54:00 2003 (25979) Could not acquire qrunner lock Apr 22 23:55:02 2003 (25994) Could not acquire qrunner lock Apr 22 23:56:03 2003 (26028) Could not acquire qrunner lock Apr 22 23:57:01 2003 (26035) Could not acquire qrunner lock Apr 22 23:58:01 2003 (26043) Could not acquire qrunner lock Apr 22 23:59:01 2003 (26045) Could not acquire qrunner lock (...) I've searched the mailman users archives, and the only symilar error was Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 03:54:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Mailman-Users] Could not acquire qrunner lock The problem there was solved because there were a set of files showing up in the log file, that had to be deleted to improve performance (/home/mailman/qfiles/001b6903fc7ad5bdcdfa930711200d5a1306e7af* ) Unfortunately, no filenames show up in my logs. Also, permissions and DB both look OK: # ./check_perms No problems found ]# ./check_db all /home/mailman/lists/all/config.db is fine /home/mailman/lists/all/config.db.last is fine # (changed from last time) *Right now* , qrunner **is** running. And I **do** see qrunner lock files at /home/mailman/locks . And python is eating all my CPU (from top) PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 15616 mailman 20 0 350M 350M 1580 S 98.0 10.0 18:33 python Any ideas? Regards, Josep -- Josep L. Guallar-Esteve Eastern Radiologists, Inc. Systems and Network Administration http://www.easternrad.com

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Changes to archive pages
by Paul H Byerly May 2, 2003

May 2, 2003

Richard Barrett wrote: >Articles being archived by the code running under mailmanctl are probably >still using a cached copy of the old version of the article template. > >When you amend any templates you should probably use mailmanctl restart so >that the new version will be reloaded and used for future archiving. That did it, thank you so much. Apparently there is no way to do a per list change, but I think I can make it work with relative URLs. Now I just have to hack the cookies. <>< Paul, learning more than he planned to

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database error message when upgraded to 2.1.2
by NOW Website Coordinator May 1, 2003

May 1, 2003

I didn't get any error messages upgrading from 2.1.1 until I ran mailmanctl. Then I got: Starting Mailman's master qrunner. [mailman@www2 mailman-2.1.2]$ Warning: Database (2.5.12) != program (2.6.2) version. This is on Linux Red Hat (recent conversion from Solaris). Python 2.2. What needs to be done? What does it mean? Thanks. By the way, this page isn't being updated: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/

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Admin interface via web
by Lee Stevens May 1, 2003

May 1, 2003

Hello, I have been trying to st up the admin interface for a list that I created and have been having a hek of a time trying to access it. Is there a discussion list that I can get into to or a message board for some assistance? Thank you, Lee

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