Mailman 3 September 2005 - Mailman-Users

Mailman 2.1.5 and virtualdomains and/or subdomains
by Konrad Mauz Sept. 9, 2005

Sept. 9, 2005

Hi, I'm trying to setting up mailman and having trouble with virtualdomains and subdomains. I need a listing name schema of: xyz(a)a.fh-konstanz.de xyz(a)b.fh-konstanz.de xyz(a)c.fh-konstanz.de and so on. but I can only have "one" xyz list, since the domainname is not part of the "listname" My first workaround was: xyz(a)a.fh-konstanz.de is a-xyz(a)fh-konstanz.de and maps with sendmails virtusers and aliases database. Then I change the preferred hostname in the list configuration to a.fh-konstanz.de, but the sender adress is now a-xyz(a)a.fh-konstanz.de. Is there a better way to handle lists with equal names but different domain/subdomain names? With kind regards, Konrad -- Konrad Mauz Rechenzentrum Fachhochschule Braunegger-Strasse 55, D 78462 Konstanz e-mail: kmauz(a)fh-konstanz.de Tel.: +49(0)7531-206-472

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New User/Administrator of a list
by Clayton Mic Sept. 8, 2005

Sept. 8, 2005

I have just taken over the administration/moderation of our Mailman site and appear to be having a problem with our Archives section getting the following message when accessing the Archives. Forbidden You don't have permission to access /pipermail/members_aha.net.au/ on this server. Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. I have been testing moderator tools and releasing moderated messages after I have reviewed them. Members on the list have indicated that they have been receiving these messages, but an Archive does not seem to be in the process of being created. Can someone lease tell me where to start. Also is it possible to have more than one list/archive, we are wanting to have a members list (for general infornmation) and a technical list for swapping ideas and technical information. Can someone advise of simple step by step instructions on how these issues can be achieved. Of course at the end of the day is an issue with my Service provider?! tHANKS mIC Mic Clayton Btech (Env), HydCert Co Ordinating Hydrographer Snowy Hydro Limited PO Box 332 Cooma NSW 2630 Ph 02 64532474 Fax 02 64532030 EMAIL DISCLAIMER Snowy Hydro : Confidential Communication This email (which includes any attachments) may contain information that is confidential, legally privileged or protected by copyright. If this email has been sent to you by mistake, please inform us by reply and then delete the email and destroy any printed copy and do not disclose or use the information in it. There is no warranty that this email is error or virus free. If this is a private communication it does not represent the views of Snowy Hydro. Snowy Hydro collects personal information to provide our services. For more information about use, disclosure and access see our privacy policy at www.snowyhydro.com.au

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finding the options and so on
by Mark A. Mandel Sept. 8, 2005

Sept. 8, 2005

I've noticed that a fair number of the questions and answers on this list follow the pattern Q: How do I do X? A: Look in .... Q: Aha! Thanks, I didn't know it was there. And as an owner of a number of lists, though not a sysadmin, I've fairly often had the experience of "Now, where the heck was that feature the last time I used it? ... Not there... it's not there either... OK, let's go through the option pages one by one. ... ... ... Oh, THERE you are, you little devil!" One way to solve this problem would be an index. Another would be a wiki. What do other listmembers think? -- Mark A. Mandel Linguistic Data Consortium, University of Pennsylvania

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and utf8
by Jan Kohnert Sept. 8, 2005

Sept. 8, 2005

Dan Phillips schrieb: > On Sep 8, 2005, at 8:29 AM, Jan Kohnert wrote: > > In the html-pages of the archive there is still the html-meta tag: > > <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; > > charset=iso-8859-1"> > > Did you regenerate the archives? They are static html created at he > time a message is added, so for a change in character set to appear, > you must run bin/arch --wipe listname Many thanks, now it is working. > Dan Best regards Jan -- OpenPGP Public-Key Fingerprint: 0E9B 4052 C661 5018 93C3 4E46 651A 7A28 4028 FF7A

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Mailman and utf8
by Jan Kohnert Sept. 8, 2005

Sept. 8, 2005

Hello guys, sorry if I missed something in the docs... I recently changed my system to use utf8 encoding and get now strange signs in the maillinglist archives for non US-ASCII letters linke ä,ö,ü,ß and so on. Is there a parameter to tell pipermail to use utf8 encoding for the web archive? Or at least the encoding of the mail itself (although this would obviously be more difficult to do...)? TIA, Best regards Jan -- OpenPGP Public-Key Fingerprint: 0E9B 4052 C661 5018 93C3 4E46 651A 7A28 4028 FF7A

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Upgrading Mailman (2.1.3 -> 2.1.6)
by Odhiambo Washington Sept. 8, 2005

Sept. 8, 2005

I know this has been discussed/documented, but I just can't find the actual link detailing the steps. Can someone point me to it? I have a production setup which I must not screw up with during the upgrade ;) cheers - wash +----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ Odhiambo Washington . WANANCHI ONLINE LTD (Nairobi, KE) | wash () WANANCHI ! com . 1ere Etage, Loita Hse, Loita St., | GSM: (+254) 722 743 223 . # 10286, 00100 NAIROBI | GSM: (+254) 733 744 121 . (+254) 020 313 985 - 9 | +---------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post

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Topics Help.
by zzizzle＠zzizzle.com Sept. 8, 2005

Sept. 8, 2005

If anyone has used TOPICS successfully and cleverly, please let me know. I'd appreciate examples! I tried setting it up and I don't understand how it works. You can enter the topic name, but I don't see how you allow users to subscribe to different topics. Any help the community can give will be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Jonathan http://www.mships.com check it out!

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Bounce Processing Problems
by Paul Rubin Sept. 8, 2005

Sept. 8, 2005

Mailman 2.1.6 Python 2.4.1 27 Lists Average 8000 people per list Average message size 100k Largest list gets around 200 messages per day Total load average 2million messages per day give or take. We have been using mailman successfully for about 4 years. Basic Problem: Since about 12/2004 The bounce processor consumes most of the memory in the system and sometimes all of the CPU. What we have tried: * Change REGISTER_BOUNCES_EVERY = minutes(1) which change us from complete crashing to just consuming all memory and cpu. * Temporarily shut off bounce processing on all lists, no effect. * Temporarily reroute bounce messages to a mailbox for human processing, We received about 5,000 per hour most of which were temporary (mailbox full, mail server not answering, etc) * When it gets really bad Kill and restart mailman every 2 minutes. Mostly works but kills all request in progress when the kill comes through, however those request we already dead because of the locks on the lists * Contacting the bug forum on Source forge and being told that bounce processing is a problem that they hope to have time to fix in 2.1.6 (see 1077587) What top often looks like: 09:39:33 up 36 days, 15:58, 9 users, load average: 5.23, 5.75, 4.98 497 processes: 485 sleeping, 8 running, 4 zombie, 0 stopped CPU states: 67.8% user 16.6% system 0.0% nice 0.0% iowait 15.4% idle Mem: 1029884k av, 973668k used, 56216k free, 0k shrd, 149788k buff 739156k actv, 58428k in_d, 17080k in_c Swap: 2040244k av, 188092k used, 1852152k free 184036k cached PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME CPU COMMAND 14978 mailman 16 0 324M 318M 2328 R 6.5 31.6 5:46 0 /usr/local/bin/python /var/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=BounceRunner:0:1 14977 mailman 15 0 28916 27M 2420 S 0.0 2.7 0:31 0 /usr/local/bin/python /var/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s 14983 mailman 15 0 27608 25M 2320 S 0.2 2.5 0:23 0 /usr/local/bin/python /var/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=VirginRunner:0:1 14982 mailman 15 0 23832 22M 2460 S 0.7 2.2 0:58 0 /usr/local/bin/python /var/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0: 14980 mailman 15 0 22904 21M 2364 S 0.0 2.1 0:27 0 /usr/local/bin/python /var/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0: 14981 mailman 15 0 5508 2568 2180 S 0.0 0.2 0:00 0 /usr/local/bin/python /var/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s 14984 mailman 15 0 5460 2548 2180 S 0.0 0.2 0:00 0 /usr/local/bin/python /var/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 - 14979 mailman 15 0 5476 2540 2180 S 0.0 0.2 0:00 0 /usr/local/bin/python /var/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=CommandRunner:0:1 14976 mailman 25 0 5524 2220 2216 S 0.0 0.2 0:00 0 /usr/bin/python /var/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s -q start And immediately after a shutdown restart cycle: 09:42:12 up 36 days, 16:01, 9 users, load average: 4.21, 5.23, 4.91 532 processes: 521 sleeping, 7 running, 4 zombie, 0 stopped CPU states: 82.3% user 6.3% system 0.0% nice 0.0% iowait 11.3% idle Mem: 1029884k av, 643420k used, 386464k free, 0k shrd, 149556k buff 435668k actv, 33664k in_d, 16752k in_c Swap: 2040244k av, 111832k used, 1928412k free 161048k cached PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME CPU COMMAND 32382 mailman 16 0 24312 23M 2660 R 27.2 2.3 0:03 0 /usr/local/bin/python /var/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s 32385 mailman 15 0 22036 21M 2616 R 23.0 2.1 0:02 0 /usr/local/bin/python /var/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0: 32388 mailman 15 0 21816 21M 2584 S 14.1 2.1 0:01 0 /usr/local/bin/python /var/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=VirginRunner:0:1 32383 mailman 16 0 20604 20M 2568 R 6.1 2.0 0:03 0 /usr/local/bin/python /var/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=BounceRunner:0:1 32387 mailman 15 0 15960 15M 2712 S 0.5 1.5 0:02 0 /usr/local/bin/python /var/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0: 32379 mailman 25 0 5900 5900 2596 S 0.0 0.5 0:00 0 /usr/bin/python /var/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s -q start 32386 mailman 15 0 5840 5840 2512 S 0.0 0.5 0:00 0 /usr/local/bin/python /var/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s 32384 mailman 15 0 5804 5804 2512 S 0.0 0.5 0:00 0 /usr/local/bin/python /var/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=CommandRunner:0:1 32389 mailman 25 0 5792 5792 2512 S 0.0 0.5 0:00 0 /usr/local/bin/python /var/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 - Notice how the other tasks suddenly get busy.... Log files were completely flushed at 4PM yesterday. [mailman@tbnonline ~]$ ls -al logs total 16144 drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 4096 Aug 31 19:19 . drwxrwsr-x 34 mailman mailman 4096 Sep 1 08:40 .. -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 15793138 Sep 1 09:02 bounce -rw-rw-r-- 1 smmsp mailman 335919 Sep 1 09:01 error -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 5181 Sep 1 06:25 locks -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 28700 Sep 1 09:01 post -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 35858 Sep 1 08:32 qrunner -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 263590 Sep 1 09:02 smtp -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 1519 Sep 1 06:31 smtp-failure -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 6833 Sep 1 08:59 subscribe -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 1069 Sep 1 08:32 vette Sample from bounce log: Sep 01 08:58:30 2005 (14978) bounce message w/no discernable addresses: < <mailto:20050901125626.19066.qmail@smtp02-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net> 20050901125626.19066.qmail(a)smtp02-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net> Sep 01 08:58:30 2005 (14978) discarding unrecognized, message-id: < <mailto:20050901125626.19066.qmail@smtp02-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net> 20050901125626.19066.qmail(a)smtp02-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net> Sep 01 08:58:32 2005 (14978) bounce message w/no discernable addresses: < <mailto:Terrace26313811125579171@tbnonline.com> Terrace26313811125579171(a)tbnonline.com> Sep 01 08:58:32 2005 (14978) discarding unrecognized, message-id: < <mailto:Terrace26313811125579171@tbnonline.com> Terrace26313811125579171(a)tbnonline.com> Sep 01 08:58:34 2005 (14978) bounce message w/no discernable addresses: < <mailto:0MKvAI-1EAocE2a2R-0002jN@mx.perfora.net> 0MKvAI-1EAocE2a2R-0002jN(a)mx.perfora.net> Sep 01 08:58:34 2005 (14978) discarding unrecognized, message-id: < <mailto:0MKvAI-1EAocE2a2R-0002jN@mx.perfora.net> 0MKvAI-1EAocE2a2R-0002jN(a)mx.perfora.net> Sep 01 08:58:35 2005 (14978) bounce message w/no discernable addresses: < <mailto:20050901125631.ABF4E38E49@tbnonline.org> 20050901125631.ABF4E38E49(a)tbnonline.org> Sep 01 08:58:35 2005 (14978) discarding unrecognized, message-id: < <mailto:20050901125631.ABF4E38E49@tbnonline.org> 20050901125631.ABF4E38E49(a)tbnonline.org> Sep 01 08:58:39 2005 (14978) bounce message w/no discernable addresses: < <mailto:20050901125636.19173.qmail@smtp03-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net> 20050901125636.19173.qmail(a)smtp03-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net> Sep 01 08:58:39 2005 (14978) discarding unrecognized, message-id: < <mailto:20050901125636.19173.qmail@smtp03-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net> 20050901125636.19173.qmail(a)smtp03-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net> Sample from error log: Sep 01 08:57:32 2005 (14978) Ignoring unparseable message: 1125579452.21312+848e219740e9c93ca6f761384c120d97593ee364 Sep 01 08:57:58 2005 (14978) Uncaught runner exception: No terminating boundary and no trailing empty line Sep 01 08:57:58 2005 (14978) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 99, in _oneloop msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 151, in dequeue msg = email.message_from_string(msg, Message.Message) File "/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/__init__.py", line 52, in message_from_string return Parser(_class, strict=strict).parsestr(s) File "/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 75, in parsestr return self.parse(StringIO(text), headersonly=headersonly) File "/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 64, in parse self._parsebody(root, fp, firstbodyline) File "/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 240, in _parsebody msgobj = self.parsestr(part) File "/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 75, in parsestr return self.parse(StringIO(text), headersonly=headersonly) File "/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 64, in parse self._parsebody(root, fp, firstbodyline) File "/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 265, in _parsebody msg = self.parse(fp) File "/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 64, in parse self._parsebody(root, fp, firstbodyline) File "/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 206, in _parsebody raise Errors.BoundaryError( BoundaryError: No terminating boundary and no trailing empty line Sep 01 08:57:58 2005 (14978) Ignoring unparseable message: 1125579478.065345+8ca74677621e4e9262be5503f2e081184abc853e Sample from smtp log: Sep 01 09:02:32 2005 (14982) < <mailto:mailman.68.1125579745.14978.brdcst-compaq@tbnonline.com> mailman.68.1125579745.14978.brdcst-compaq(a)tbnonline.com> smtp to brdcst-compaq for 1 recips, completed in 0.253 seconds Sep 01 09:02:32 2005 (14982) < <mailto:mailman.69.1125579745.14978.brdcst-compaq@tbnonline.com> mailman.69.1125579745.14978.brdcst-compaq(a)tbnonline.com> smtp to brdcst-compaq for 1 recips, completed in 0.432 seconds Sep 01 09:02:32 2005 (14982) < <mailto:mailman.70.1125579745.14978.brdcst-compaq@tbnonline.com> mailman.70.1125579745.14978.brdcst-compaq(a)tbnonline.com> smtp to brdcst-compaq for 1 recips, completed in 0.140 seconds Sep 01 09:02:33 2005 (14982) < <mailto:mailman.71.1125579745.14978.brdcst-compaq@tbnonline.com> mailman.71.1125579745.14978.brdcst-compaq(a)tbnonline.com> smtp to brdcst-compaq for 1 recips, completed in 0.315 seconds Sep 01 09:02:42 2005 (14982) < <mailto:mailman.61.1125579744.14978.brdcst-printer@tbnonline.com> mailman.61.1125579744.14978.brdcst-printer(a)tbnonline.com> smtp to brdcst-printer for 2 recips, completed in 4.212 seconds Sep 01 09:02:44 2005 (14982) < <mailto:mailman.65.1125579744.14978.brdcst-dell@tbnonline.com> mailman.65.1125579744.14978.brdcst-dell(a)tbnonline.com> smtp to brdcst-dell for 2 recips, completed in 1.629 seconds Sep 01 09:02:44 2005 (14982) < <mailto:mailman.71.1125579745.14978.brdcst-compaq@tbnonline.com> mailman.71.1125579745.14978.brdcst-compaq(a)tbnonline.com> smtp to brdcst-compaq for 2 recips, completed in 0.842 seconds Sep 01 09:02:45 2005 (14982) < <mailto:mailman.63.1125579744.14978.brdcst-printer@tbnonline.com> mailman.63.1125579744.14978.brdcst-printer(a)tbnonline.com> smtp to brdcst-printer for 2 recips, completed in 0.427 seconds Sep 01 09:02:45 2005 (14982) < <mailto:mailman.69.1125579745.14978.brdcst-compaq@tbnonline.com> mailman.69.1125579745.14978.brdcst-compaq(a)tbnonline.com> smtp to brdcst-compaq for 2 recips, completed in 0.391 seconds Sep 01 09:02:46 2005 (14982) < <mailto:mailman.67.1125579744.14978.brdcst-compaq@tbnonline.com> mailman.67.1125579744.14978.brdcst-compaq(a)tbnonline.com> smtp to brdcst-compaq for 2 recips, completed in 0.374 seconds

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Re: [Mailman-Users] unknown user
by Cogley, Rick Sept. 7, 2005

Sept. 7, 2005

I'm a beginner with Mailman, so I could be wrong, but I was getting this sort of error until I confirmed my aliases were being created correctly. I changed MTAs to Postfix and followed the directions in the Mailman manual or readme, to make the aliases autocreate when you create a list via the web. Hope this serves as a hint. Regards, Rick Cogley Tokyo, Japan -----Original Message----- From: mailman-users-bounces+rick.cogley=esolia.co.jp(a)python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+rick.cogley=esolia.co.jp@python.org] On Behalf Of Hugo Osorio Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 7:57 AM To: mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] unknown user Hello community could you help me with this, i have created a list in mailman web interface, but i send a message to the list, and is not delivered, it is returning to me "unknown user" what is the step after being created the list? thank you very much. ------------------------------------------------------

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unknown user
by Hugo Osorio Sept. 7, 2005

Sept. 7, 2005

Hello community could you help me with this, i have created a list in mailman web interface, but i send a message to the list, and is not delivered, it is returning to me "unknown user" what is the step after being created the list? thank you very much.

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