Mailman 3 October 2006 - Mailman-Users

Index Listing of mail lists
by Tom Kavanaugh Oct. 11, 2006

Oct. 11, 2006

I have been using mailman at my workplace for almost a year now, and it is working very well for us. The number of lists are already over 50 and still growing. One of the features I would like is to index list the mail list names. Right now, the lists are sorted alphabetically and users have to scroll over screens to get to lists starting with say "H". If there is a way to setup a A-Z index hortizontally above the List name - Description, it would be great. Any code hacks for this feature? Thanks \Tom

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mail forwarding loop
by Christopher Adams Oct. 10, 2006

Oct. 10, 2006

I am running the current version of Posfix with the current version of Mailman. This may actually be a Postfix question, but I have queried the postfix-users lis and I think they are weary of hearing this question. One subscriber is receiving all list messages, but when she posts to the 'listname' list, she gets this: Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: MemberClicks Sent: 10/9/2006 3:24 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: listname(a)mydomain.state.or.us on 10/9/2006 2:52 PM The e-mail system was unable to deliver the message, but did not report a specific reason. Check the address and try again. If it still fails, contact your system administrator. < mydomain.state.or.us #5.0.0 X-Postfix; mail forwarding loop for listname(a)mydomain.state.or.us> I checked the Postfix logs and see this: Oct 9 14:51:37 gatsby postfix/nqmgr[2397]: C24354405E: from=<user(a)email.com>, size=5680, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 9 14:51:37 gatsby postfix/local[21553]: C24354405E: to=<listname(a)email.com>, relay=local, delay=1, status=bounced (mail forwarding loop for listname(a)mydomain.state.or.us) I have been reading other information about mail forwarding errors in Postfix, but none of them seem to apply here. Can someone give me some tips as to what is happening? This is a small list and the list is not subscribed to itself. -- Christopher Adams adamsca(a)gmail.com

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tending to moderator requests
by Paul Carter Oct. 10, 2006

Oct. 10, 2006

Hi, I'm an administrator for a few small mailman lists. Recently, some messages in our list have gotten stuck in the moderator phase. I keep getting messages about messages that require moderator approval, but when any of hte moderators or admins goes to evaluate the messages, it always says: "There are no pending requests." But I still get emails about these messages every few days. Any advice? Paul __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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how to re-require admin's approval when posting?
by Zbigniew Szalbot Oct. 10, 2006

Oct. 10, 2006

Hello, I have once upon a time added a filter to automatically accept messages coming from a certain email address to a mailman list. However, now I think this is not too wise since the list in question is a closed notification-only list, not one in which you can discuss issues. In other words, it is easy for someone to forge this address and submit whatever they want to the list. How can I now force mailman to always require admin's approval if a message comes from an address already added to the aproval filter? Thank you for your advice! -- Zbigniew Szalbot

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Google Code Search
by Brad Knowles Oct. 10, 2006

Oct. 10, 2006

At 10:08 AM -0500 10/9/06, Patrick Bogen wrote: > Not trying to be rude; Of course. > it just seemed to me that for security issues > in the code (rather than, say, conceptual security issues), the > appropriate place to start would be mailman-developers- and the list > members there would be better equipped to know what's going on. But, > it could just be that I have a flawed understanding of the exact > purpose of our various lists. For security-related issues, we prefer to route things through the appropriately controlled list. We'd rather not have discussions of security-related subjects on a public list. Once Barry, Tokio, Mark, or one of the other core developers approve, the discussion could be moved to mailman-developers. -- Brad Knowles, <brad(a)stop.mail-abuse.org> "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 Founding Individual Sponsor of LOPSA. See <http://www.lopsa.org/>.

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Problem with mailman and qmail
by Kim Leandersson Oct. 9, 2006

Oct. 9, 2006

Hi, Running mailman together with qmail on a server. Thought it worked just fine because the mails were sent to the members. Now I notice that for example the messages to the administrator/moderator that there are pending moderator request isn't sent out. When I check my mail logs I see rows like this. Oct 9 21:06:28 <server> qmail: 1160420788.602712 delivery 16629: deferral: Illegal_command:_mailowner/preline:_fatal:_unable_to_copy_input:_broken_pipe /Failed_to_start_/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman./ Oct 9 21:07:26 <server> qmail: 1160420846.907264 delivery 16637: deferral: Illegal_command:_mailowner/Failed_to_start_/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman./pr eline:_fatal:_unable_to_copy_input:_broken_pipe/ My .qmail files looks like this: .qmail-listname: |/var/qmail/bin/preline /var/qmail/bin/mm_wrapper /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post listname .qmail-listname-admin: |/var/qmail/bin/preline /var/qmail/bin/mm_wrapper /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman mailowner listname .qmail-listname-bounces: |/var/qmail/bin/preline /var/qmail/bin/mm_wrapper /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces listname .qmail-listname-confirm: |/var/qmail/bin/preline /var/qmail/bin/mm_wrapper /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm listname .qmail-listname-join: |/var/qmail/bin/preline /var/qmail/bin/mm_wrapper /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join listname .qmail-listname-leave: |/var/qmail/bin/preline /var/qmail/bin/mm_wrapper /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave listname .qmail-listname-owner: |/var/qmail/bin/preline /var/qmail/bin/mm_wrapper /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman mailowner listname .qmail-listname-request: |/var/qmail/bin/preline /var/qmail/bin/mm_wrapper /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman mailcmd listname .qmail-listname-subscribe: |/var/qmail/bin/preline /var/qmail/bin/mm_wrapper /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe listname .qmail-listname-unsubscribe: |/var/qmail/bin/preline /var/qmail/bin/mm_wrapper /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe listname Any hints on what could be wrong? I'm not that familiar with qmail so I have a hard time searching for errors. //kim

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transfer archives from majordomo to mailman ?
by Bruce Mackenzie gm <BMackenzie＠alum.mit.edu> Oct. 9, 2006

Oct. 9, 2006

Does anybody have experience transferring the archived messages from an old majordomo e-list, to a new mailman e-list which replaces it? Any suggestions on : Option A. - What I am thinking of trying... Use the majordomo 'get' command to e-mail all the messages to mailman. Something like: 1. before adding subscribers to the new mailman e-list, 2. make a temporary e-mail address, which forwards mail to the new mailman e-list, 3. send a request with that as a 'from:' address, sent to majordomo, asking it to send messages back, (using the majordomo 'index' and 'get' commands.) Thus mailman would receive all the old messages, as if they were recently sent. The problem is the subject lines & dates of the messages will not be useful. Option B - The majordomo archives are just directories full of text files, so the could be loaded as web pages. But that does not provide privacy and other nice features of archives, without some effort. Option C. - There are old references to 'arch' and 'digest_arch', but they say... >> This is being deprecated since mailman has been shifted over to ... pipermail. -- thanks, Bruce Mackenzie please cc: BMacknz(a)gmail.com

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automatically subscribe
by John Heim Oct. 9, 2006

Oct. 9, 2006

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sapiro" <msapiro(a)value.net> > For a different approach see > <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-October/053679.html> > and the other post to which it refers. > Thanks Mark. Again for the archive, I thought I'd include a perl script I wrote to use the url/post approach: #!/usr/bin/perl use strict; use LWP::UserAgent; my $mydomain = 'mydomain.com'; my $email_address = 'jheim(a)mydomain.com'; my $adminpw = 'password'; my $list = 'listname'; # use script name for agent my $ua = LWP::UserAgent->new; my ($agent) = $0 =~ m#.*/(.*)$#; $ua->agent("$agent.1 "); my $form = {}; $form->{subscribees} = $email_address; $form->{adminpw} = $adminpw; $form->{send_welcome_msg_to_this_batch} = 1; # could be 0 $form->{send_notifications_to_list_owner} = 1; # could be 0 my $url = "https://$mydomain/mailman/admin/$list/members/add"; my $res = $ua->post ($url, $form); #Check the outcome of the response [...]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can users create mailing lists on their
by Mark Sapiro Oct. 9, 2006

Oct. 9, 2006

Dave Crocker wrote: > >Mark Sapiro wrote: >> This *is* a current feature. The mailman site admin (or anyone with >> command line access to mailman) can set a list creator password with >> bin/mmsitepass. Then anyone who knows this password can create a list >> via the web interface. > >how does this make the listname registered with the local mail system, >as an email mailbox address? You're correct that this is an issue where manual updates of per-list aliases are required. Both Exim and Postfix can be integrated with Mailman so as not to require this <http://www.list.org/mailman-install/mail-server.html>. The Postfix integration can be faked to work with Sendmail <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.049.htp>, and there may be other MTAs that can be integrated to work without manual aliases, so in many cases, manual aliases are not an issue. -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Google Code Search
by Patrick Bogen Oct. 9, 2006

Oct. 9, 2006

On 10/9/06, Patrick Bogen <pdbogen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 10/8/06, Brad Knowles <brad(a)stop.mail-abuse.org> wrote: > > At 2:08 PM -0500 10/8/06, Gadi Evron wrote: > > > > >> > Just thought I'd share. If mailman is in need of volunteers, please let us > > >> > know. > > > > >> > > >> Also, the proper place for your message would probably be > > >> mailman-developers, rather than mailman-users. > > > > > > Thanks. I'm a user though, and thought I'd ask. > > > > Patrick -- Gadi is a well-known member of the security community, we > > just need to help him find the appropriate place to have these > > discussions. > Not trying to be rude; it just seemed to me that for security issues > in the code (rather than, say, conceptual security issues), the > appropriate place to start would be mailman-developers- and the list > members there would be better equipped to know what's going on. But, > it could just be that I have a flawed understanding of the exact > purpose of our various lists. > > -- > - Patrick Bogen > Meant to send this to the list. :/ Sorry for the dupe, Brad. -- - Patrick Bogen

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