Mailman 3 November 2006 - Mailman-Users

How to setup umbrella lists
by Lonnie Norton Dec. 1, 2006

Dec. 1, 2006

Hi, There is a "umbrella_list" setting in the "General Options" for my lists but I'm not sure how I'm supposed to setup the umbrella list to allow posting from people who are on the sub lists. Has someone written an explanation of this procedure? Thanks, Lonnie.

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Web admin slow
by Jon Harris Dec. 1, 2006

Dec. 1, 2006

Hi List I have a (bit aged) Redhat 9 box (Pentium II/512Mb RAM) running Mailman 2.1.6 with Postfix. Its only has to run a single moderated mailing list sending out one email every day to around 20,000 subscribers. Sending out the emails is not problem - it works great. The major problem is logging in to approve the email. It (Apache/2.0.40) is so slow that it usually times out with a 500 error after you try and login. Is there a way of speeding up the web interface? Can I approve postings from the command line? There is a large archive as they have been running this for around 3 years. Will it speed up if we trash part of the archive. If so how can I trash archived data that is (say) over a year old? There was a thread on this problem, but it was not really resolved, and that user had 450,000 subscribers. Any help appreciated. Jon Harris

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Most recent posts to top of page
by Barry R Cisna Dec. 1, 2006

Dec. 1, 2006

Hello List, I m sure this is an easy fix, but i can not find a howto on doing this: How do I get MM to show most recent posts at top of the page,rather than the default, most recent are at the bottom.. MM 2.1.8 Fedora Core 5 Thanks, Barry

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Removing invalid list members
by Dave Sherohman Dec. 1, 2006

Dec. 1, 2006

Somehow, a user has gotten himself subscribed to one of my lists with an address of the form foo@bar@hotmail.com. How do I get rid of this subscription? The various web interface options just give an error that this address is not subscribed (even while showing it on the list of subscribers - might want to let the left hand know what the right hand is doing) and remove_members from the command line gives a traceback culminating in "Mailman.Errors.NotAMemberError: foo@bar", so I'd guess that some address sanity-checking is what's killing the attempt. In case it matters, I'm running Mailman from Debian's 2.1.5-8sarge5 package and this user is probably a carryover from an earlier version, as remove_member's traceback starts in OldStyleMemberships.py. And here's the traceback, too, just to be complete: --- cut here --- # remove_members my-list foo@bar@hotmail.com Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/sbin/remove_members", line 186, in ? main() File "/usr/sbin/remove_members", line 176, in main admin_notif, userack) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 990, in ApprovedDeleteMember self.removeMember(emailaddr) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 220, in removeMember self.__assertIsMember(member) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 113, in __assertIsMember raise Errors.NotAMemberError, member Mailman.Errors.NotAMemberError: foo@bar --- cut here --- -- I would rather be exposed to the inconvenience attending too much Liberty than those attending too small degree of it. - Thomas Jefferson

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Private lists and trouble shooting unsubscribes
by Patrick Bogen Dec. 1, 2006

Dec. 1, 2006

This is where you want to adjust the setting I mentioned. If it's already set to Hold (and not Discard or Reject), then there is probably something else wrong, which is why you need to keep the conversation on-list. As willing as I am to help, I don't have perfect knowledge of Mailman. - Patrick Bogen On 11/29/06, Ken Cheney <kencheney(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > I think I found it... Under privacy|sender filters. > > Ken Cheney <kencheney(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > I will send the solution to the list after this email because I dont want > the list subscribers to see how stupid I am at this point! Right now I cant > find where to set member_mod now... I thought it was on one of the web > screens. Once the list is created do I need to now change it via the > command line? or is everything available somewhere in the mailman web ui? > > I am pretty sure somewhere along the line i set all the users to be in the > "hold" space for nonmoderators or list owners. I am wondering if I have > some other problem since i can't unsubscribe by emailing to > listname-leave(a)domain.com ... > > Ken > > Patrick Bogen <pdbogen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 11/29/06, Ken Cheney wrote: > > First let me say I am very new to Mailman, very new to Linux, and very new > to mailing > > lists. (it took me 2 days to get the listserv to even send out :( ) > > > > I have the listserv up and sending to my lists; however, I would like to > make the lists only > > emailable from the list owner. I saw one post that referred to a FAQ but > it was not very > > clear to me on how to do it. So, how do I limit the person that can send > to the mailing list > > to only the list owner/administrator/moderator? I have set all list > members to be > > moderated, yet they dont show up on the "tend to pending moderator tasks" > link. > > What are 'they'? The users don't show up. If a moderated user sends a > message, and member_moderation_action is set to 'Hold,' then the > message will show up in the admin interface. > > The general way to do what you want is: set all members to moderated. > Set 'default_member_moderation' for the list to 'Yes'. Set > 'member_moderation_action' to 'Hold' if you want to see attempts by > the members to post, and have the opportunity to approve them. Set it > to 'reject,' otherwise, which will bounce the message and tell the > user why. To allow certain users (based on email address) to > automatically post, add their email addresses to > accept_these_nonmembers. This is probably the easiest, although least > secure, way to do this. > > The better (though potentially more complex and difficult) way to do > this is to include the list password on any emails sent, which will > automatically bypass the sender filters. There are two ways to do > this: Either as a header in the email (this can be difficult, > depending on which email client you're using), or as the first line in > the email (this can be very tricky if you're sending HTML email. For > normal text, it should be fairly foolproof). Either way, the > header/line should look like: > > Approved: > > -- > - Patrick Bogen > > > ________________________________ > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. > > > ________________________________ > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > > -- - Patrick Bogen

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Uncaught bounce notification loop
by Brian Parish Dec. 1, 2006

Dec. 1, 2006

With *bounce_processing set to Yes on one list I get: * The attached message was received as a bounce... messages, with the same message attached many times. i.e. The Uncaught bounce notification IS the attached message. These continue streaming out until I turn off *bounce_processing Clues for the clueless? TIA Brian *

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Old lists are working. New lists discard all messages. How to debug?
by Brian Parish Dec. 1, 2006

Dec. 1, 2006

I have a number of lists running happily, but a couple of new ones don't want to play. For testing purposes I subscribe myself to them and a couple of other addresses. All message sent to them from subscribed addresses get automatically discarded. I can see the discards in the vette log, but that doesn't provide a reason why. Do I need to turn on verbose output or something to get a diagnostic that's meaningful? TIA Brian

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Sending emails via Mailman Issue
by Saxvik, Ben Dec. 1, 2006

Dec. 1, 2006

Hi Patrick, I tired to telnet to port 25 on localhost and got a connection refused error. I verified that sendmail was running and it was. I then proceeded to /etc/hosts file and found that the loopback address for the machine was incorrect. Instead of the address being 127.0.0.1 it was ::1. Once I change it back it was all sweet. I did apply some patches to my system recently so one of them must have changed this address. Again thanks for your assistance. Regards, Ben -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Bogen [mailto:pdbogen@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 1 December 2006 1:50 AM To: Saxvik, Ben Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Sending emails via Mailman Issue On 11/30/06, Saxvik, Ben <bsaxvik(a)sunrice.com.au> wrote: > Yes the MTA is running on the mailman machine. > > No I have not changed the options SMTPHOST and SMTPPORT, they are > still set to their default settings. SMTPHOST 'localhost' SMTPPORT '0'. Can you double-check that your MTA is listening on port 25? Either using: netstat -lnp (and looking for port 25) or: telnet localhost 25 and see if the MTA responds (after a few seconds, probably.) -- - Patrick Bogen

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problem creating list, unknown language
by Thomas Spuhler Nov. 30, 2006

Nov. 30, 2006

When creating a new list, (my first list) I get: [root@aargau thomas]# newlist Create a new, unpopulated mailing list. . . . Note that listnames are forced to lowercase. Unknown language: en_US [root@aargau thomas]# Same with other languages such as de or fr It's on a Mandriva 2007 box, worked on 2006 even using mailman-2.1.6 from 2006 There is nothing in the log. -- Best regards Thomas Spuhler

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Logging list creation
by Richard Kirkcaldy Nov. 30, 2006

Nov. 30, 2006

Hi, Is there a way to log the creation of new lists? We've got quite a few people administering our Mailman server and I'd like announcements of new lists to be either logged somewhere or, even better, emailed out to the Mailman list. -- Richard Kirkcaldy

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