Mailman 3 March 2006 - Mailman-Users

spam being posted to archives
by Jeff DeReus March 4, 2006

March 4, 2006

I am running mailman 2.1.5 with SA 3.0.4 on FC3. While I am now properly tagging the mails for spam there is no reason that they should be archived along with valid posts. Is there a way to disable this based on header information or some other criteria? Thank you, Jeff D

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Re: [Mailman-Users] gating to newsgroup
by Mark Sapiro March 4, 2006

March 4, 2006

Patrick Siglin wrote: >where do I check for this? /usr/lib/mailman/cron or does this actually go >into like /etc/cron.daily? Assuming /usr/lib/mailman is your installation directory, /usr/lib/mailman/cron has the actual scripts and a crontab.in which is meant as the default to install. Depending on how your Mailman was installed, the actual crontab may be mailman's crontab (usually, /var/spool/cron/mailman) which can be listed by crontab -u mailman -l or if your crontab doesn't have a -u option su - mailman crontab -l Or, the crontab may be in a subdirectory of /etc/cron.d in which case it has to be listed or edited directly. >under /usr/lib/mailman/cron >there is an entry in crontab.in that shows gate_news for every 5 mins. I know >messages are getting out but I have yet to see something come in from a >newsgroup to the list. As I said above, this is just the default to install. The one in this directory is not actually used. -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Resetting usenet watermark?
by Steven Haigh March 4, 2006

March 4, 2006

Hi all, I've just copied my mailman configs from one system to another, and after reinstalling innd on a private news server, I'm now getting the following in the logs: Feb 26 23:50:02 2006 (2757) rgsouthern: [0..0] Feb 26 23:50:02 2006 (2757) nothing new for list rgsouthern Feb 26 23:50:02 2006 (2757) rgsouthern watermark: 12 Feb 26 23:50:02 2006 (2757) melbwireless: [0..0] Feb 26 23:50:02 2006 (2757) nothing new for list melbwireless Feb 26 23:50:02 2006 (2757) melbwireless watermark: 37 As the newsgroups were reset, the watermark is obviously incorrect. Is there a way to reset this watermark so that the system starts gating news correctly again? -- Steven Haigh Email: netwiz(a)crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9017 0597 - 0412 935 897

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gating to newsgroup
by Patrick Siglin March 4, 2006

March 4, 2006

Is there any special settings to recieve mail into the list from a newsgroup? I can get my post to my list to goto a newsgroup but have not seen it come to the list when I post on the newsgroup. -- poison(a)list.memphistw.org

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Postfix + Virtual Domains + MySQL + Mailman
by Adam Mattina March 3, 2006

March 3, 2006

Hello, I am having trouble getting mail delivered to my lists. Setup Server name (for instance) is host.domain.com which will be hosting two virtual domains. There will be no local user accounts other than root and some other users that won't need mail (ftp user, etc). Therefore all accounts will be virtual. The problem seems to be that when I add a list, the server tries to match the lookup with a local account instead of a virtual one. All virtual mail is working and I can add virtual users via mysql blah blah and that all works. Caveat: If I setup a new account in mysql (list1) and then setup the list in mailman (list1), mail is delivered to the virtual mailbox instead of any list. Here is what I have done to troubleshoot... 1. Try to use postmap to make sure the address is getting translated correctly a. I perform "postconf -q listname(a)address.com /usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman" b. Which returns: listname c. This is where I think the problem is because it should return listname(a)address.com What happens when I try to send mail to this address is that postfix trys to send it to a local account which obviously does not exist. 2. Tried to mail from the console to a list I created which will bounce mail telling me the user is unknown. a. Feb 27 09:51:14 excellence postfix/pipe[2449]: EBBDF10BC329: to=undergrad(a)excellence.ritphipsi.org orig_to=undergrad(a)ritphipsi.org, relay=maildrop, delay=1, status=bounced (user unknown. Command output: Invalid user specified. ) 3. I have been playing around with hostnames and url configs in the postfix and mailman files but it doesn't seem to be working but the mail keeps on going local. 4. Specs: Gentoo 2.6 / Mailman 2.1.7 / Postfix 2.2.5 / Courier IMAP 4.0.1 Here are the relevant parts from my confs... mm_cfg.py ---- DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'ritphipsi.org' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mailman.ritphipsi.org' MTA = "Postfix" POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['ritphipsi.org', 'ritdodgeball.org'] add_virtualhost('mailman.ritdodgeball.org', 'ritdodgeball.org') add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) /etc/postfix/main.cf --- myhostname = excellence.ritphipsi.org mydomain = ritphipsi.org virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-alias-maps.cf, hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman owner_request_special = no Thanks, Adam Mattina Networking & Systems Support Layer 8 Group, Inc. 585.442.8888 <mailto:amattina@layer8group.com> amattina(a)layer8group.com

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Redirect all -bounce emails
by Wayne Ribbens March 3, 2006

March 3, 2006

<There are two obvious ways that jump to mind. The first, which will address the bounce issue for all mail, is the following code at the beginning of the process() function in Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py # Calculate the non-VERP envelope sender. envsender = msgdata.get('envsender') if envsender is None: if mlist: envsender = mlist.GetBouncesEmail() else: envsender = Utils.get_site_email(extra='bounces') which could simply be replaced by something like # Envelope sender (bounces) is always the site list. envsender = 'mailman at name.com'> I put in envsender = 'catchbounces(a)domain.com' where the address was a valid address and nothing changes. Do I have to do anything besides modify SMTPDirect.py to make this work?

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issues with signatures
by Dirk Völlger March 3, 2006

March 3, 2006

Hello, I just successfully set up mailman 2.1.7 on a Debian Sarge Server which works very fine so far. I only have some problems with Signatures, i know that its not a big problem, but i liked it to be resolved. I want to insert ASCII-Art like to be seen here: __o _`\<,_ (*)/_(*) The problem is, that < is always transformed to < so it becomes: __o _`\<,_ (*)/_(*) Where do I have to look for the error? thx -- __o Dirk Völlger == dirkounet == _`\<,_ dirkounet(a)thebiketour.net __________________(*)/_(*)____www.thebiketour.net

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Log analysis
by Roger Favero March 3, 2006

March 3, 2006

Hello, it's my first post in this mailing list. I'm looking fot a tool (a simple script, or something like it) to analyse the mailman log in order to know the volume of the work managed by mailman for each list configured in it (how many post per day, how many new subscrive, etc...). Is there something that could help me? Thanks a lot for you kind answer and help. Best Regards, Roger

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Large site mailman config
by George Barnett March 3, 2006

March 3, 2006

Hi, Could somebody please send me a config for a large mailman site? We're seeing our mailman queue wedge fairly frequently. A simple restart sorts this out, but I'd like to see if there's anything else I can do to prevent this. We have the following relevant options set: QRUNNERS = [ ('ArchRunner', 4), # messages for the archiver ('BounceRunner', 2), # for processing the qfile/bounces directory ('CommandRunner', 1), # commands and bounces from the outside world ('IncomingRunner', 4), # posts from the outside world ('NewsRunner', 1), # outgoing messages to the nntpd ('OutgoingRunner', 4), # outgoing messages to the smtpd ('VirginRunner', 1), # internally crafted (virgin birth) messages ('RetryRunner', 3), # retry temporarily failed deliveries ] # Default queue stuff is shite. QRUNNER_LOCK_LIFETIME = hours(20) QRUNNER_PROCESS_LIFETIME = hours(2) QRUNNER_MAX_MESSAGES = 50000 DELIVERY_RETRY_WAIT=minutes(10) # Max recipients for each message SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 150 # Max messages sent in each SMTP connection SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = 25 ARCHIVE_TO_MBOX = 0 Cheers, George -- George Barnett Reality Engineer m: (+44) 797 457 1868 e: george(a)alink.co.za Digital circuits are made from analog parts. -- Don Vonada

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce issues with Yahoo
by Harold Paulson March 3, 2006

March 3, 2006

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Greg, >>> Like most people who've been running mailing lists for 20+ years, I >>> have strong opinions about list policy. Please address the mechanism >>> I asked for instead of seeking to discuss the policy issues. >> >> You have a policy problem with your MTA, not your MLM. > > Which part of "I don't think we should talk about the policy issues" > do you not understand? Please stop wasting your own time. Hey don't do what you are complaining about others doing. I understand you got some crummy replies, but take a moment to understand what I am saying. It was meant to be constructive. Do you really have a *policy* to accept messages that you will never deliver, save them to disk, and then generate reject messages for them? Or is that simply the way your MTA+MLM is configured by default? Is that *policy* really any different from your standpoint, from rejecting undeliverable messages during SMTP? Real users who send from the wrong email account, for example, would still have their messages returned to them either way. The only difference is that the bounce will be generated by their MTA, and not yours. You can still include the reason the message was rejected. Junk from spammers will never land on your disks, you will not be flooding yahoo users with incomprehensible "reject" notices for stuff they didn't send, or annoying yahoo.com's postmaster with a blizzard of messages to non-existant accounts. It would not be inconsistent with your current MLM policy. It is simply a better mechanism for implementing it, a better MTA policy, and better netizenship to boot. - H -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD4DBQFEB1KgOy/dHTCUq6oRArwjAJ0Y1UNtC7xviyu61C9uVaWvyKQfcgCYpJKL mv7r+x+uQ02tuszPPi1zPw== =j0UH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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