Mailman 3 January 2007 - Mailman-Users

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by Jacob Sam-La Rose 26 Jan '07

26 Jan '07

Hi there, I've recently configured a mailman mailing list. Among other things, I've been thrown by the fact that any time I mention the name of the list in the "subject:" of an email, it gets stripped. The public name for the list is FYI, the prefix for the subject line is FYI - and if I write FYI anywhere in the subject line, it's automatically removed. I don't often mention the name of the list, but it'd be good to know what to do if I need to. Thanks, Jacob.//

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Lists nested in other lists
by Ken Cheney 25 Jan '07

25 Jan '07

I know I have seen some documentation on being able to have lists nested in other lists. I can't seem to locate it now. What I want to do is have someone subscribe to a list such as - hockey player - and by virtue of subscribing to that list they are part of the Athletics list. So they will then receive messages sent to both the Athletics list and the Hockey Player lists. Is this possible? --------------------------------- Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Level's of list admin?
by Tom Kavanaugh 25 Jan '07

25 Jan '07

Thanks for your emails. I looked around sourceforge, and it seems that there are requests for this patches, and people are working on it. Tom On 1/24/07, Brad Knowles <brad(a)shub-internet.org> wrote: > > At 1:13 PM -0800 1/24/07, Tom Kavanaugh wrote: > > > Making these Project Managers as list moderators does not give them > access > > to add/delete users. > > Is there a way to give them this access. I do not want to make them > list > > admin's. > > Not in the current code, no. > > You can have site admins, who can do anything on any list anywhere on > the site, by using the site admin password. You can also use the > site admin password to create lists, or you can have a separate list > creation password. > > Then you have list admins, and then list moderators. There aren't > any other levels of list administration personnel. > > > Like a lower level of list admin, where they cannot change any list > > parameter. But, just be able to add/remove users. > > You could change the source code. I don't know how hard that would > be to do, but there are others on this list who might be able to give > you some guidance there. > > Keep in mind that there may already be patches to do this sort of > thing. You should look at the SourceForge patch list for Mailman, to > see if there is anything that addresses your question. > > If there is not already an existing patch to achieve this > functionality, then one thing we'd ask you to do is that once you've > made the necessary code changes at your site to then share those with > the rest of the community via the same patch facility. > > -- > Brad Knowles <brad(a)shub-internet.org>, Consultant & Author > Co-author of SAGE Booklet #15 "Internet Postmaster: Duties and > Responsibilities" > Founding Member and Platinum Individual Sponsor of LOPSA: > <http://www.lopsa.org> > Papers: <http://tinyurl.com/tj6q4> LinkedIn Profile: > <http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu> >

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Level's of list admin?
by Tom Kavanaugh 25 Jan '07

25 Jan '07

Hello, My mail list is running for over a year now. Most of my mail lists are for projects, and these projects have Project Managers. I am considering handing over tasks like adding/deleting users to Project Managers. Making these Project Managers as list moderators does not give them access to add/delete users. Is there a way to give them this access. I do not want to make them list admin's. Like a lower level of list admin, where they cannot change any list parameter. But, just be able to add/remove users. Thanks Tom

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Conceal receiver addresses
by Hung Phan 25 Jan '07

25 Jan '07

Hello, We got request from our users to conceal the receiver addresses. We searched but came back empty. Is there a way to conceal the receiver addresses in Mailman? Thank you,

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mailman install problem
by Piniella, David A 24 Jan '07

24 Jan '07

Hi, I'm trying to install mailman 2.1.9 on a Solaris 10 x86 machine and I'm running into problems with "make install". I have no cc installed, I am using GCC 3.4.5 which I've installed from blastwave.org; python is 2.3.5. I've searched the archives of the list and hit up google to no avail, any suggestion(s) or hints would be most appreciated, I'm ready to scrap this install. I don't know if it's something funky in Sol10's make or maybe mailman's expecting gcc to be cc (see "unable to execute cc: No such file or directory \ error: command 'cc' failed with exit status 1" -- I did NOT specify the --with-gcc=no option during the configure). bash-3.00# make install Creating architecture independent directories... chmod o-r /usr/local/mailman/archives/private Creating architecture dependent directories... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/mailman/bin' for f in mmsitepass newlist rmlist add_members list_members remove_members clone_member update arch sync_members check_db withlist check_perms find_member version config_list list_lists dumpdb cleanarch list_admins genaliases change_pw mailmanctl qrunner inject unshunt fix_url.py convert.py transcheck b4b5-archfix list_owners msgfmt.py show_qfiles discard rb-archfix reset_pw.py; \ do \ .././install-sh -c -m 755 ../build/bin/$f /usr/local/mailman/bin; \ done make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/mailman/bin' make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/mailman/cron' for f in crontab.in; \ do \ .././install-sh -c -m 644 $f /usr/local/mailman/cron; \ done for f in checkdbs mailpasswds senddigests gate_news nightly_gzip bumpdigests disabled; \ do \ .././install-sh -c -m 755 ../build/cron/$f /usr/local/mailman/cron; \ done make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/mailman/cron' make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/mailman/misc' for i in ./*.jpg ./*.png; \ do \ .././install-sh -c -m 644 $i /usr/local/mailman/icons; \ done for d in bin cron scripts tests; \ do \ dir=/usr/local/mailman/$d; \ .././install-sh -c -m 644 paths.py $dir; \ done .././install-sh -c -m 755 mailman /usr/local/mailman/scripts .././install-sh -c -m 644 sitelist.cfg /usr/local/mailman/data for p in email-2.5.8 JapaneseCodecs-1.4.11 KoreanCodecs-2.0.5; \ do \ gunzip -c ./$p.tar.gz | (cd . ; tar xf -); \ (cd ./$p ; umask 02 ; PYTHONPATH=/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib /opt/csw/bin/python setup.py --quiet install --install-lib /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib --install-purelib /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib --install-data /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib); \ done /opt/csw/lib/python2.3/distutils/dist.py:213: UserWarning: 'licence' distribution option is deprecated; use 'license' warnings.warn(msg) unable to execute cc: No such file or directory error: command 'cc' failed with exit status 1 make[1]: *** [install-packages] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/mailman/misc' *** Error code 2 The following command caused the error: for d in bin cron misc Mailman scripts src templates messages tests; \ do \ (cd $d; make DESTDIR= install); \ done make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `doinstall' bash-3.00# Dave

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some messages get treat as spam
by Peter Edley 24 Jan '07

24 Jan '07

I have an issue with a list I am running some messages sent to the list are getting treat as spam by some users systems but not all of the messages are. There does not seem to be a pattern at this point in time, the messages I know that have been treat as spam have come from users using different isp's and different email clients so there does not seem to be a pattern there. This is not just one user who is finding messages marked as spam although if a message is marked as spam for one affected user it seems to be for all of them. But not all users are affected by this. Any help in tracking down the problem would be greatly received.

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Mailman, postfix virtual domains and mysql
by Peter Coolen 23 Jan '07

23 Jan '07

Hi All, Mailman almost works... First some problems with the webserver but that's almost solved (can't use the list creaters and adminstrator password) Also got the following problem: I have a working postfix, mysql and virtual domains on the testserver.. This works fine and is also on the main server.. Now I want to install mailman (done) and integrate with my mailserver.. Does someone have a manual for postfix virtual domains with mysql? I looked it up in the site administrators manual but that's all about virtual domains and not about mysql.. My config files are very different. I use mysql_virtual_alias_maps, mysql_virtual_domains_maps and mysql_virtual_mailbox_maps files In these files are the following lines (table, select_field and where_field are different): user = username password = password hosts = localhost dbname = Databasename table = mailbox select_field = maildir where_field = username Can someone help me with this? Thanks

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mailman domain error
by Christopher Glanville 23 Jan '07

23 Jan '07

Hi, Can anyone help me. I have got 2 domains. Domain a.com and domain b.com and I would like to be able to write messages to either of those domains. I cannot work out how you do this though since my mailman router does not take into account anywhere the domain name, only $local_part (see below) So another question is since it (apparently) doesn't look at the $local_part why is it that a.com works but b.com doesn't. The /var/log/exim4/mainlog file shows no difference between a.com and b.com but yet b.com doesn't arrive?? Many thanks in advance for any help on offer de Chris G PS my mailman router is: mailman_router: driver = accept require_files = MAILMAN_HOME/lists/$local_part/config.pck local_part_suffix_optional local_part_suffix = -bounces : -bounces+* : \ -confirm+* : -join : -leave : \ -owner : -request : -admin transport = mailman_transport

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But I don't want any Korean
by Kent Taylor 22 Jan '07

22 Jan '07

Very frustrating. I had a problem installing a mailman update a few months back on Solaris 10. I posted the traceback, and a very patient person directed me through modifying and repacking Setup.py in KoreanCodecs-2.0.5, and that did the trick. Now I'm trying to install another update, and I'm getting *Korean* errors again. I tried editing and repacking the Setup.py file like last time, but that didn't do it. So I did some googling and found instructions for editing and repacking hangul.c in KoreanCodecs-2.0.5. That didn't work either. Is there any way to disable Korean all-together, forever and ever, amen?! It's just so frustrating to waste an entire day working a foreign language issue on a product that will never be used by a non-English speaking person - ever. Anyway, here's the traceback from the log file... admin(2805): [----- Mailman Version: 2.1.9 -----] admin(2805): [----- Traceback ------] admin(2805): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(2805): File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 94, in run_main admin(2805): pkg = __import__('Mailman.Cgi', globals(), locals(), [scriptname]) admin(2805): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py", line 26, in ? admin(2805): from Mailman import Utils admin(2805): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 39, in ? admin(2805): import email.Header admin(2805): File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Header.py", line 13, in ? admin(2805): from email.Charset import Charset admin(2805): File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Charset.py", line 178, in ? admin(2805): add_codec(_charset, _find_asian_codec(_charset, 'korean') or _charset) admin(2805): File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Charset.py", line 163, in _find_asian_codec admin(2805): unicode('foo', charset) admin(2805): File "/usr/sfw/lib/python2.3/encodings/__init__.py", line 91, in search_function admin(2805): mod = __import__(modname, globals(), locals(), _import_tail) admin(2805): File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/korean/johab.py", line 26, in ? admin(2805): from korean.python.johab import * admin(2805): File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/korean/python/johab.py", line 28, in ? admin(2805): johab2uni_chosung = { admin(2805): AttributeError: class Jaeum has no attribute 'SS' admin(2805): [----- Python Information -----] admin(2805): sys.version = 2.3.3 (#1, Dec 16 2004, 14:38:56) [C] admin(2805): sys.executable = /usr/sfw/bin/python admin(2805): sys.prefix = /usr/sfw admin(2805): sys.exec_prefix = /usr/sfw admin(2805): sys.path = /usr/sfw admin(2805): sys.platform = sunos5 admin(2805): [----- Environment Variables -----] admin(2805): SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/1.3.36 (Unix) mod_perl/1.29 admin(2805): SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/listinfo admin(2805): SERVER_SIGNATURE: <ADDRESS>Apache/1.3.36 Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 80</ADDRESS> admin(2805): admin(2805): REQUEST_METHOD: GET admin(2805): SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 admin(2805): QUERY_STRING: admin(2805): HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 1.0.3705) admin(2805): HTTP_CONNECTION: Keep-Alive admin(2805): SERVER_NAME: 127.0.0.1 admin(2805): REMOTE_ADDR: 192.168.90.28 admin(2805): SERVER_PORT: 80 admin(2805): SERVER_ADDR: 192.168.90.5 admin(2805): DOCUMENT_ROOT: /var/apache/htdocs admin(2805): PYTHONPATH: /usr/local/mailman admin(2805): SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo admin(2805): SERVER_ADMIN: you(a)yourhost.com admin(2805): HTTP_HOST: m admin(2805): HTTP_UA_CPU: x86 admin(2805): REQUEST_URI: /mailman/listinfo admin(2805): HTTP_ACCEPT: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, application/x-shockwave-flash, application/vnd.ms-excel, application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, application/msword, */* admin(2805): GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 admin(2805): REMOTE_PORT: 3176 admin(2805): HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en-us admin(2805): TZ: <GMT-5>-5 admin(2805): HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip, deflate admin(2805): UNIQUE_ID: RbSPvcCoWgUAAAcbN8g Thank you in advance for any assistance in either solving the problem, or side-stepping it by disabling Korean support. /kpt

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