Mailman 3 November 2007 - Mailman-Users

Configuration problem - virtual domains URL
by Marc Perkel Nov. 26, 2007

Nov. 26, 2007

I'm trying to figure out how to do a slightly unusual configuration. Normally mailman wants to use URLs like http://www.domain.com/mailman . But what I want to do is have url's that look like http://mailman.domain.com. So - in my config file I have: DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'ctyme.com' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'ctyme.com' DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://mailman.%s/' Seems to work for managing the list but when I try to use /create or /listinfo instead of http://mailman.ctyme.com I get http://mailman.mailman.ctyme.com What I don't understand is why the double mailman and how do I fix it? Thanks in advance.

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UnicodeDecodeError during Archive Obscuring
by Jim Popovitch Nov. 25, 2007

Nov. 25, 2007

I've seen a increase in use of Unicod'ed email address which fail HyperArch email obscuring and thus cause the msg to be shunted and not archived. Specifically the problem lies in the encoding (strangely the error says "Decode") of the text ' at ' (as a substitute for "@") for Russian users of GMail. Here is the error in full: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nov 22 04:42:31 2007 (755) Uncaught runner exception: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xd0 in position 1: ordinal not in range(128) Nov 22 04:42:31 2007 (755) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 112, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 170, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py", line 89, in _dispose mlist.ArchiveMail(msg) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 250, in ArchiveMail h.processUnixMailbox(f) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 580, in processUnixMailbox self.add_article(a) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 621, in add_article filename)) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 1275, in write_article f.write(article.as_text()) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 579, in as_text atmark = unicode(_(' at '), Utils.GetCharSet(self._lang)) UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xd0 in position 1: ordinal not in range(128) Nov 22 04:42:31 2007 (755) SHUNTING: 1195717174.0985031 +6fdaf61658ca76ec5281e614be7b4b59d1e01bf6 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a Mailman 2.1.9 system. I did search the archives quite extensively, but I didn't find any cases where Mailman was having trouble encoding the hard coded ' at ' into unicode. Here is a sample (modified from original to protect the innocent) of the message "From:" line: "=?ISO-8859-5?B?pyvY7zB08L6a0C==?=" <abc.xyz(a)gmail.com> Any ideas on what to try/test/do? Thanks! -Jim P.

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Mailman Daemon RunLevel Question
by Jacques Dailey Nov. 25, 2007

Nov. 25, 2007

Hi, I have Mailman configured on my SuSE 10.1 system, using the Postfix MTA and ASSP (Anti Spam SMTP Proxy) on the front end. So far everything is running great! Most recently, I started looking at how/when the individual apps started up and shut down, as I've had a couple of unplanned bounces that shut down email for a bit. ASSP is now configured to start at runlevel 5, right after Postfix. My question: I see a startup/shutdown script for Mailman in rc.d, but it doesn't seem to be linked to any particular runlevel (running Mailman 2.1). How/where is the Mailmanctl daemon launched, and what are the dependencies? I'm assuming the MTA and ASSP should be up and running first, along with Apache. Correct? Thanks, JD

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Turning of monthly membership mails
by Daniel Herrmann Nov. 25, 2007

Nov. 25, 2007

Hello List, I have the following problem: I installed Mailman about 3 or 4 month before and everything is working well. But now someone told me that he is receiving every month a mail, which remembers him, That he is in that Mailing List. How can I turn it off? I didn't find a switch in the webinterface And don't know where else to search. The Point is, that I make the entrys, it is something like a newsletter for the members of our Sport club. They should not be confronted with all the technique behind this system. So, finally: How to turn off this mails? Thanks so far daniel

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Re: [Mailman-Users] ? accessing public archives
by lists.mailman-users＠duinheks.xs4all.nl Nov. 25, 2007

Nov. 25, 2007

Hallo Mark, Op zaterdag 24 november 2007 schreef Mark Sapiro aan lists.mailman-users(a)duinheks.xs4al: >> But when I try to connect to >> duinheks.xs4all.nl/pipermail/amc-support I get a "403: >> forbidden" error: Symbolic link not allowed or link target not >> accessible: /opt/mailman/archives/public/amc-support >> What else should I look at? MS> The information in the 'warning' box at MS> <http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node9.html>. This link cannot be found :( But I think I found what you mean :) I now configured Mailman with --prefix=/opt/mailman --with-mail-gid=mailman --with-cgi-gid=www and all seems to work. A bit strange, because if I read the entry for --with-cgi-gid correctly, www should be taken as default. Another thing I don't understand is this: originally I configure with --prefix=/opt/mailman --with-mail-gid=bbs --with-cgi-gid=www but then Mailman complained because the mail server (postfix) was running with group mailman instead of bbs. But postfix does not belong to group mailman... Groeten, Hans. jdh punt beekhuizen bij duinheks punt xs4all punt nl --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5/071030 * Origin: MBSE Linux BBS. Made in the Netherlands (2:280/1018)

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reject oversize messages rather than hold for moderation?
by Eric Smith Nov. 25, 2007

Nov. 25, 2007

Is there any easy way to get Mailman to reject oversize messages, rather than holding them for moderation, or does anyone have a patch? I'm really getting sick of dealing with those. I spent a few minutes looking at whether I could hack it in myself. I quickly found the code that makes the "hold" decision for oversized messages, in Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py, but it wasn't obvious how to change it to do a rejection rather than a hold. The structure of Mailman seems confusing to me. It appears that it is organized in terms of making all of the "hold" decisions in one place, and the "reject" decisions in another. I'd have expected it to identify the possible problems with a message, and allow list-admin-configurable policy decisions to be made for each of those problems. But perhaps the current structure makes sense to those who have better knowledge of Mailman internals. Eric

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Saved configurations are not applied to email sent to list members
by Keith Daniels Nov. 24, 2007

Nov. 24, 2007

I am at a total loss. I have run check_perms and then compared all my directories and their permissions/ownership to the ones I have seen in the forums and I can see no problems. There are no error entries in either Mailman's logs or in the apache logs for <list.my.domain>.com nor in the postfix logs. Note: What I say about what it does and does not do, only applies to the "mailman site list". I wanted to make sure that list worked normally before I sent mailings out to the real list. The real list was imported from another server. It appears in /listinfo pages and you can login and change the configuration as well as view the old archives that I transferred. So the transfer looks good but I worry about it having the same problems as the mailman list. What the mailman list does do: 1 - It receives and sends post to the list 2 - It saves the web interface configuration changes to the *.pck file ( I tested this several ways) 3 - You can create a new list. What the mailman list does not do: 1 - It does not apply configuration settings to emails sent to the list members. (headers, footers, accept_these_nonmembers and all other changes made in the web interface) What the delivered post looks like: It looks just like "any email" I would have sent directly from Yahoo. My test have been made sending mail from a Yahoo.com account to mailman@<my.domain>.com which are then sent to an account at Gmail.com Here is a sample of a recieved post: ------------------------------------------ from XXXX XXXXX <xxxxxxxx(a)yahoo.com> to "mailman@<my.domain>com" <mailman@<my.domain>.com> date Nov 24, 2007 10:45 AM subject Mailman test #1929 signed-by yahoo.com Mailman test #1929 Does anyone have any clues about what could cause this or any ideas of anything I could test or check? If this looks like a lot of work to figure out and/or fix I would rather just remove Mailman and reinstall the latest version for Suse 10.0. Any opinions about the validity of re-installing? ------------------------------- Computer setup & other info: ------------------------------- System Info: Brand unknown Pentium4-HT 1 gig ram Software Info: (installed by ISP originally -- I am just configuring it) All installed by RPMs, probably from SUSE Suse 10.0 Mailman vs 2.1.6 Postfix v2.2.5 Apache v2.0.54 NO anti spam NO procmail All software install paths are standard SUSE 1.0.0 mm-cfg.py site-specific settings: MTA = 'Postfix' POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postalias' POSTFIX_MAP_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postmap' SMTPHOST = 'localhost' SMTPPORT = '25' DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' DEFAULT_NNTP_HOST = 'fos.<my.domain>.com' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = '<my.domain>.com' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.<my.domain>.com' IMAGE_LOGOS = '/mailmanicons/' add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) My Access: I have a dedicated server and I have root access. What I have done so far to find the answer: Searched the Documents, web site FAQ and googled a lot... ---------------------------------- Thanks in advance Keith

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? accessing public archives
by lists.mailman-users＠duinheks.xs4all.nl Nov. 24, 2007

Nov. 24, 2007

Hallo, I created a mailing list using Mailman for the first time and have a problem accessing the public archives. The FAQ told me to put the FollowSymLinks option into the httpd.conf. I did that: <Directory "/opt/mailman/archives/public/"> AddDefaultCharSet off AllowOverride None Options FollowSymLinks Order allow,deny Allow from all </Directory> But when I try to connect to duinheks.xs4all.nl/pipermail/amc-support I get a "403: forbidden" error: Symbolic link not allowed or link target not accessible: /opt/mailman/archives/public/amc-support What else should I look at? Groeten, Hans. jdh punt beekhuizen bij duinheks punt xs4all punt nl --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5/071030 * Origin: The Wizard is using MBSE/Linux (2:280/1018)

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Fwd: Re: mailman errors
by Mark Sapiro Nov. 24, 2007

Nov. 24, 2007

Message-ID: <PC1760200711232048040078bc122df2@msapiro> X-Mailer: Ultrafunk Popcorn 1.76 (09-August-2006) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 20:48:04 -0800 From: Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> To: zbigniew szalbot <zbigniew(a)szalbot.homedns.org>, Mailman Users <mailman-users(a)python.org> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman errors In-Reply-To: <474714E6.80603(a)szalbot.homedns.org> Organization: Not Very Much zbigniew szalbot wrote: >I get a lot of below errors and worse some of the lists that have been >created no longer send out emails. Can you help me troubleshoot it? > >Thank you! > >Nov 23 15:06:12 2007 (70462) SHUNTING: >1195826769.306325+db3247f3fd9baf0ca519cd58e37b4c1875fc76b3 >Nov 23 15:06:32 2007 (70462) Uncaught runner exception: unsupported >operand type(s) for -=: 'str' and 'int' >Nov 23 15:06:32 2007 (70462) Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 112, in _oneloop > self._onefile(msg, msgdata) > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 170, in _onefile > keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py", line 73, in >_dispose > self._func(mlist, msg, msgdata) > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", line 159, in >process > deliveryfunc(mlist, msg, msgdata, envsender, refused, conn) > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", line 345, in >verpdeliver > bulkdeliver(mlist, msgcopy, msgdata, envsender, failures, conn) > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", line 369, in >bulkdeliver > refused = conn.sendmail(envsender, recips, msgtext) > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", line 78, in >sendmail > self.__numsessions -= 1 >TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for -=: 'str' and 'int' Have you set SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION in mm_cfg.py? In particular, have you set it to a string instead of a number? I.e., it needs to be something like SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = 10 (or whatever number you want) not SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = '10' -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Fwd: Re: disable new subscriptions?
by Mark Sapiro Nov. 24, 2007

Nov. 24, 2007

Message-ID: <PC1760200711232053070546bc122fc9@msapiro> X-Mailer: Ultrafunk Popcorn 1.76 (09-August-2006) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 20:53:07 -0800 From: Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> To: Tomasz Chmielewski <mangoo(a)wpkg.org>, mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] disable new subscriptions? In-Reply-To: <47472C4B.10902(a)wpkg.org> Organization: Not Very Much Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: >I'm migrating a list from one site to another. > >Because of this, I want to disable new subscriptions on the old site. Is >it possible? > >I didn't find any specific option to disable new subscriptions in the >list admin interface. Set Privacy options...->Subscription rules->subscribe_policy to 'require approval' and don't approve any subscription requests. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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