Mailman 3 December 2007 - Mailman-Users

Mailman Digest Content-Transfer-Encoding
by Andrew Miller Dec. 3, 2007

Dec. 3, 2007

Hi, We run Mailman 2.1.5 on Mac OS X 10.4.11 Server. Postfix 2.1.5 is the SMTP server. A number of our subscribers who are sent digests are not able to receive them. The digest messages are bouncing with the error message: Action: failed Status: 5.6.1 Diagnostic-Code: smtp;554 5.6.1 Body type not supported by Remote Host Many of these digests are sent with the header Content-Transfer- Encoding: 8bit, and I am wondering if this is what is causing some of our subscribers to not receive these messages. Has anyone else here experienced this problem, and is there a way to force Mailman to generate digests using the quoted-printable encoding instead? Or possibly, is there a way to get Postfix to translate to quoted-printable? We have recently migrated to Mailman from a different list serve program, and never had this problem with digests with the older list serve. -- Andrew

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Re: [Mailman-Users] ? accessing public archives
by lists.mailman-users＠duinheks.xs4all.nl Dec. 3, 2007

Dec. 3, 2007

Hallo Mark, Op zondag 25 november 2007 schreef Mark Sapiro aan lists.mailman-users(a)duinheks.xs4al: >> MS> <http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node9.html>. >> This link cannot be found :( MS> It works for me, but there are mirrors at MS> <http://mailman.sf.net/mailman-install/node9.html> and MS> <http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node9.html> Strange that it doesn't work for me. But never mind, I found the information I needed. MS> Also, since you are apparently installing from source, it is in MS> the source directory at admin/www/mailman-install/node9.html. Because I have problems reading a graphics screen, I tend not to look at .html files, but print the .ps or .pdf, if available. >> But I think I found what you mean :) MS> The warning box I refer to talks about the necessity for the web MS> server to have search (x) permission on the archives/private MS> directory Right. >> server (postfix) was running with group mailman instead of bbs. >> But postfix does not belong to group mailman... MS> Postfix runs a pipe as the user that owns the aliases file in MS> which the pipe is found. OK, That's nice to know. Thank you very much for your help. Groeten, Hans. jdh punt beekhuizen bij duinheks punt xs4all punt nl --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5/071030 * Origin: The Wizard is using MBSE/Linux (2:280/1018)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't use newly created mailman list on Fedora 7
by mailbox＠stanfield.net Dec. 3, 2007

Dec. 3, 2007

Thanks, Mark. I finally uninstalled, reinstalled, created mailman list, chmod o-x the archives, ran check_perms -f, and it works. Not sure how it got hosed, but I'm ok now. Vicki

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httpd.conf Rewrite rules with ZOPE to use mailman.
by Ignacio Valdes Dec. 3, 2007

Dec. 3, 2007

Hi all, I'm running a Zope instance that requires me to have re-write rules (below) in httpd.conf that are not compatible with Mailman. I can use mailman if I don't use the Zope re-write rules or I can use Zope but not mailman with the re-write rules below. This seems like a black art to me. Is there a way to change the re-write rules so that they both work at the same time? Thanks! NameVirtualHost 72.51.39.124:80 <VirtualHost 72.51.39.124:80> ServerName brainimagingnews.net ServerAdmin webmaster(a)brainimagingnews.net ProxyPass / http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/brainimagingnews.net:80/brainima… ProxyPassReverse / http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/brainimagingnews.net:80/brainima… </VirtualHost> <VirtualHost 72.51.39.124:80> ServerName www.brainimagingnews.net # ServerAlias * # redirects everything Redirect permanent / http://brainimagingnews.net/ </VirtualHost> My mailman.conf looks like this: # # httpd configuration settings for use with mailman. # ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ <Directory /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/> AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI Order allow,deny Allow from all </Directory> Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/ <Directory /var/lib/mailman/archives/public> Options Indexes MultiViews FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all </Directory>

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Can't use newly created mailman list on Fedora 7
by mailbox＠stanfield.net Dec. 3, 2007

Dec. 3, 2007

I recently installed mailman on my Fedora 7 box and when I created a test list and tried to email a message to it, my message gets returned with the following in it: ------------------------------------- This is the mail system at host mail. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The mail system <test-request(a)thepenguin.org>: Command died with status 1: "/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request test". Command output: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/scripts/request", line 64, in <module> main() File "/usr/lib/mailman/scripts/request", line 59, in main _plaintext=1) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 132, in enqueue fp = open(tmpfile, 'w') IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/spool/mailman/commands/1196694091. 16115+07cc7716bbb2ff1c11fbed56a95d1955412fd903.pck.tmp' ---------------------------- Looks like the permissions are wrong on the location where Switchboard. py is trying to create the file. Is that correct? And where would that be? Vicki Stanfield

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Re: [Mailman-Users] httpd.conf Rewrite rules with ZOPE to use mailman.
by Ignacio Valdes Dec. 3, 2007

Dec. 3, 2007

Hi Chris, A ServerBeach admin added this to httpd.conf <VirtualHost 72.51.39.124:80> DocumentRoot /var/www/html ServerAdmin webmaster(a)brainimagingnews.net </VirtualHost> which fixed it so that I can use both Zope and and I can now get to the Mailman web interface page, but I get an error with the archive URL and I don't know how to get it to be a good URL for each domain for each list. I moved these Mailman lists from another ISP's servers that previously hosted http://linuxmednews.com for many years and others which are now hosted on 72 .5 1.3 x9 . 124. (remove spaces and the x for the real IP) The flagship Mailman list is linuxmednews-announce which previously was at http://www.linuxmednews.com/mailman/listinfo/linuxmednews-announce and which I've moved over but when I attempt to get to the archive page from http://72 .5 1.3 9x.124/mailman/listinfo/linuxmednews-announce it cannot find the page. I have changed the URL's using withlist command to no effect. The target should be that one can get to the Mailman page from http://www.linuxmednews.com/mailman/listinfo/linuxmednews-announce and that one can get to the archive from that page as well as of course be able to send announcement by the list admin which is me. Your help is much appreciated, if I/we can figure out how to get this one working, I should be able to do the others on my own. Thanks! -- IV On Dec 2, 2007 7:44 AM, Christopher X. Candreva <chris(a)westnet.com> wrote: > On Sat, 1 Dec 2007, Ignacio Valdes wrote: > > > I'm running a Zope instance that requires me to have re-write rules > > (below) in httpd.conf that are not compatible with Mailman. I can use > > mailman if I don't use the Zope re-write rules or I can use Zope but > > not mailman with the re-write rules below. This seems like a black art > > to me. Is there a way to change the re-write rules so that they both > > work at the same time? Thanks! > > The easiest thing may be to set up another NameVirtualHost > mailman.brainimagingnews.net to run mailman that doesn't have the re-write > rules. > > > ========================================================== > Chris Candreva -- chris(a)westnet.com -- (914) 948-3162 > WestNet Internet Services of Westchester > http://www.westnet.com/ >

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Re: [Mailman-Users] MX records
by Noel da Costa Dec. 2, 2007

Dec. 2, 2007

Hi all, Thanks for the replies so far. > From: "Shadow" <Shadow(a)shadowsnetwork.com> > I would say that this line shows the problem > Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 <newlist(a)mydomain.co.uk>: invalid address Yes, I agree.. but I'm not sure how to add a mail alias to my domain if not through the admin console. > From: Brad Knowles <brad(a)shub-internet.org> > Option #2 would probably be closest, but what you'd have to do is > to set up the ten aliases needed for each list to be forwarded to a > local program on the machine. If your hosting provider doesn't > allow that, then you can't use their interface to set up aliases. I have root access, so it should be possible, I just don't know how. > If your provider is using an MTA like postfix, with the right > options specified in the Mailman configuration file then you can > use mechanisms built into Mailman that can automatically generate > the necessary aliases for you, and postfix will automatically pick > up those changes on-the-fly. However, this also requires > modification to the postfix configuration files, and if your > provider doesn't allow that, then obviously this won't be an option > for you. It sounds, from what you are saying, that I shouldn't need to set the aliases up manually via the management console if Postfix is correctly integrated. I looked through the Mailman manual, at the bit which says Postfix Integration, but to be honest, it was all greek to me. Anyone care to help me through it? Many thanks, Noel da Costa Lead Developer Magnet Harlequin T: 01895 432400 F: 01895 432444 E: noel.dacosta(a)magharl.co.uk W: http://www.magharl.co.uk This e-mail is intended solely for the addressees named above and any other use is prohibited. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. It may contain confidential information. If you have received this e- mail in error, please contact the sender by return e-mail. We do not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message if it has reached you via the internet. Any opinions expressed are those of the author and are not necessarily endorsed by the company. Recipients are advised to apply their own virus check to this message and all incoming e-mail on delivery.

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Mass Subscribe Option
by Cyndi Norwitz Dec. 2, 2007

Dec. 2, 2007

Okay, another question. I am migrating lists from another system and the easiest way to do this is to use mass subscribe and just put all the old users into it. With a few warnings on the existing list that anyone who doesn't want to be moved needs to unsub now. When I use mass subscribe at Sonic.net, the text indicates I'll have a choice of actually subscribing the addresses or inviting them. But there is no choice. It just goes directly to invite. This has been a problem because, for one list I've migrated, there are about 65 subscribers who have responded to the invite (I've done it twice along with several posts to the existing list with links to the direct sub page) and about 250 who haven't. Only one person has asked not to be migrated. In some cases, friends of mine haven't responded to the invite (and said they didn't see the requests...because they weren't paying attention, not because they weren't sent). I'd really like to sub everyone and be done with it. I assume this is a setting on Sonic's end? I posted to the local usenet group for mailman and got no reply (their tech support prefers to use usenet for anything that's not a basic issue and they are good about replying except in the mailman group, which is rarely used). If someone can confirm my suspicion and give me the details, I will pass it on to Sonic tech support and see if they can do something about it. I suspect it was set this way on purpose as an antispam measure, but it's a big inconveince for those of us migrating legitimate lists. Thanks, Cyndi

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Viewing Full Subscriber & Subscriber Security
by Cyndi Norwitz Dec. 1, 2007

Dec. 1, 2007

Hi, I'm new to the list, though I undoubtedly know some of you from other list management lists. I am in the process of migrating my mailing lists from majordomo on a friend's server to mailman at sonic.net. I have many questions which I haven't been able to answer by reading the FAQ's. Some are specific to Sonic most likely and I post those to the Sonic usenet group for mailman, though it's a slow group. My first question is about how to view my subscriber list. It's not a problem for the small lists. I simply go to that page in the interface and there everyone is. Unfortunately, once membership hits a certain level, mailman won't provide the full list. Now I have to look by letter. So instead of viewing my subscriber list in one fail swoop, I need to do it 26 times. The FAQ taught me about the roster page, which is cool, but it just gives the list of names, divided by regular and digest. I can't do things like page down to see who to unmoderate. See: http://lists.sonic.net/mailman/roster/lcveg Is there a way to see the entire membership list with all the interactive boxes I get as an admin? Is this a setting on the ISP's end? Can they make the option available? or at least raise the threshhold for putting the list into letter-only status? Then there is a security question. When I got the roster (requiring no password), each name on the list was clickable. When I clicked on a name, it took me to the subscription page for that person. Without requiring a password. When I did it for my own name I figured that my password was just in a cookie. But it works for a random name too. Of course, the roster page should be passworded too...is it really possible for anyone to view my subscriber list? Can those of you who don't have a Sonic IP view it? The addresses may be changed so they're harder for spammers to harvest but they're full addresses that can easily be changed to proper emails. Like with a lot of lists, there are problems with small-time spammers wanting access to subscribers but we also have troublemakers. I don't want my subscribers' email addresses visible to anyone but me. And the subscription settings shouldn't be accessible to just anyone either. Are there settings on my end that I need to re-do? Are there settings on Sonic's end? Thanks, Cyndi

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