Mailman 3 March 2007 - Mailman-Users

setting nomail from command line?
by Chad Day March 2, 2007

March 2, 2007

I can't seem to find this, when I search for nomail via the searchable archives it's returning me an error page. So here I am. I want to be able to add members and set their nomail flag on from the command line .. adding the member, yeah, no problem. But there's no nomail option that I see in the help text for the script, and I can't seem to find another way of changing this from the command line, only a web interface. I'm sure this has to have been asked before and if I could kindly be pointed in the right direction, it would be much appreciated. Thanks! Chad Day, Developer Mindshare Interactive Campaigns, LLC 108 5th Street SE, Suite 307 Charlottesville, VA 22902 tel 202.654.0835 fax 202.318.0755 www.mindshare.net <BLOCKED::http://www.mindshare.net/>

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mime conversions - missing carriage returns andoddcharacters
by Mark Sapiro March 2, 2007

March 2, 2007

Ryan Steele wrote: > >Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> It is possible that something in Mailman's MimeDel (content filtering) >> is misrepresenting the character set and causing utf-8 encoded text to >> be declared as some other character set, but it could also be >> something else. > >Sounds like a fair enough assumption. I guess that could also account >for the carriage returns not being evaluated properly? I don't think so, but I can't be sure. >> Do you have convert_html_to_plaintext set to Yes? >> > >Affirmative, I do. Based on what I see, I don't think that is the problem. >> To diagnose this further, we need to see an original message as sent to >> the list (e.g. a Bcc: of a list post) and the message as received from >> the list. These need to be raw messages with all MIME headers intact. >> >> > >Following is an original message as sent to the list, before being >munged by MimeDel: > >######################################################################################## > <Received: headers snipped> > From: someaoluser(a)aol.com > Message-ID: <2d3.3f8b576.313c8b61(a)aol.com> > Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 13:43:45 EST > Subject: Re: [somelist] Building the Field of O.D. into a Profession > To: list-of-users(a)domains.com > CC: otheruser(a)otherdomain.org > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; >boundary="-----------------------------1141584225" > X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5022 <X-Spam-* headers snipped> > > > Dear David, This is incomplete. You have copied the message headers, and then apparently the body as displayed by your mail client. I.e., the message is multipart/alternative, but I don't see any part headers for the alternative parts and I only see one body part. <snip> >######################################################################################## > >Here is that same message as received by the list, after being munged by >MimeDel: > >######################################################################################## > <Received: headers snipped> >From: someaoluser(a)aol.com >Message-ID: <2d3.3f8b576.313c8b61(a)aol.com> >Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 13:43:45 EST >To: list-of-users(a)domains.com >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5022 >X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 >Cc: otheruser(a)otherdomain.org >Subject: Re: [somelist] Building the Field of O.D. into a Profession >X-BeenThere: somelist(a)lists.company.org >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 >Precedence: list >List-Id: Our email discussion for the godparents of our field > <somelist.lists.company.org> >List-Unsubscribe: < http://lists.company.org/mailman/listinfo/somelist>, > < mailto:somelist-request@lists.company.org?subject=unsubscribe > >List-Archive: < http://lists.company.org/mailman/private/somelist> >List-Post: < mailto:somelist@lists.company.org> >List-Help: < mailto:somelist-request@lists.company.org?subject=help> >List-Subscribe: < http://lists.company.org/mailman/listinfo/somelist>, > < mailto:somelist-request@lists.company.org?subject=subscribe > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >Sender: somelist-bounces(a)lists.company.org >Errors-To: somelist-bounces(a)lists.company.org <X-Spam-* headers snipped> > > Dear David, Thank you for your reply. Starting back in 1981 when I <snip> >re-writing what became âEURoeThe International O.D. Code of >EthicsâEUR?. It is based on comments from key O.D. people from all over <snip> > >######################################################################################## Here I may be seeing the whole message. It contains some possibly garbled utf-8 characters, but the Content-Type: header identifies it as utf-8 characher set, so I suspect your mail client is not properly rendering utf-8. It looks like (I can't be certain because these aren't the raw messages) Mailman has done the normal thing which is select the text/plain alternative and replace the multipart/alternative message body with a body consisting only of the text/plain part. I really need to see the full raw source of the original message to the list (the first message above). I.e., what you see when you select View->Message Source in Thunderbird. -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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duplicate subscription problem
by Gary Casterline March 2, 2007

March 2, 2007

Somehow, I find an address subscribed to a list twice with a slight case difference. # ../../bin/dumpdb config.pck | grep -i sudden 'fireworn(a)suddenlink.net': 'en', 'fireworn(a)Suddenlink.net': 0, 'fireworn(a)suddenlink.net': 0, 'fireworn(a)suddenlink.net': 'xxxxxxxxx', 'fireworn(a)suddenlink.net': 264, I think if I could clean up that line with fireworn(a)Suddenlink.net from the config.pck file, I'd be ok. Is there a procedure for editing a config.pck file? More info: The web interface shows two subscribers, both with lowercase S in suddenlink.net. bin/findmembers only shows one of the addresses. If I use bin/remove_members, I'm left with a broken list, in that I cannot list any members anymore. Here is what I get from the disabled cronjob: /opt/bin/python -S /opt/mailman/cron/disabled produced the following output: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/mailman/cron/disabled", line 220, in ? main() File "/opt/mailman/cron/disabled", line 176, in main members = mlist.getDeliveryStatusMembers(who) File "/opt/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 158, in getDeliveryStatusMembers return [member for member in self.getMembers() File "/opt/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 139, in getDeliveryStatus self.__assertIsMember(member) File "/opt/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 113, in __assertIsMember raise Errors.NotAMemberError, member Mailman.Errors.NotAMemberError: fireworn(a)Suddenlink.net This is mailman-2.1.9 Any help or pointers appreciated. Thanks, _Gary

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getting pending subscription request daily
by Midhun Ramadas March 2, 2007

March 2, 2007

Hi , I am getting pending subscription request daily for my mailing list and when i go to Tend to pending requests, I am not finding anything. This happens daily. Can anyone please help me how to remove/stop this mail coming? Is this any bug? Thanks in advance, Midhun

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Mime conversions - missing carriage returns and odd characters
by Ryan Steele March 2, 2007

March 2, 2007

Hey folks. Recently, messages from AOL ( shudder, X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 23823 in one example I'm viewing ) and Outlook ( shudder, Build 11.0.5510 in one example I'm viewing ) have been sending multipart messages which appear to confuse the Mailman MimeDel ( X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 is header, FWIW ). Here's an example snippet: Appreciative Inquiry? Or, the power of Ambivalent Thinking. Revisit, for a moment, thoughts about Norman Vincent Peale’s “The Power of Positive Thinking”, about Dale Carnegie’s “How to Win Friends and Influence People”, and, then the brillance of the “Appreciative Inquiry” movement arising from the depths of OB study at Case Western Reserve�� BUT, also, think about how ow a CWRU faculty Psychologist (of the original OB group, and first to exit) could “dim the lights” within dedicated students by simply saying: “How come you appear to be smiling, all the time?” Also, reflect on how some of the bravest and toughest individuals- who have lived through rough situations and survived without obsolescence of spirit- are the warmest of friends (full of life and strength). As you have probably ascertained by the MimeDel version, I'm running 2.1.8, and am not in a huge rush to upgrade to 2.1.9 unless there are fixes that specifically pertain to the handling of HTML messages. I'm not quite sure why the messages are missing the carriage returns after Mailman has finished parsing the HTML (maybe an unclosed <br> or <p>?), but any advice and/or insight would be more than welcome! I can provide full headers (obscuring the names of the innocent) if that would help anyone. Thanks alot! Best Regards, Ryan -- Ryan Steele Systems Administrator steele(a)agora-net.com AgoraNet, Inc. (302) 224-2475 314 E. Main Street, Suite 1 (302) 224-2552 (fax) Newark, DE 19711 http://www.agora-net.com

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Newsgroup interface picking up spam
by David Beaumont March 2, 2007

March 2, 2007

On our members only list how can we prevent the newsgroup interface picking up posts (spam) from non members? We have mailman 2.1.8. I see here http://staff.imsa.edu/~ckolar/mailman/mailman-administration-v2.html there is an option "Should newsgroup posts not sent from the list be resent to the list? Specifies whether or not messages posted by people out there in the world who are not members of the list should be gated and distributed to list members. " Which would seem to be the answer but we don't have that, is it new in 2.1.9? Thanks David

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mailman-bounces@wrong.domain
by Curt Siffert March 1, 2007

March 1, 2007

Hi, I'm experiencing a strange problem. I have mailman set up with sendmail, recent versions. I have the mailman list set up on my server's base domain. I have another list ("muse") set up on a virtual host. I have the add_virtualhost('virtdomain.com', 'virtdomain.com') added to mm_cfg.py I have the appropriate aliases added to /etc/mail/aliases And I also have the appropriate entries added to virtusertable (for instance, mailman-bounces(a)rootdomain.com goes to mailman-bounces, and muse-bounces(a)virtdomain.com goes to muse-bounces) But now, when I try to send messages to muse-bounces(a)virtdomain.com , I get an error message in my smtp-failure file that says it couldn't send to muse-bounces(a)rootdomain.com Why is it trying to send to muse-bounces(a)rootdomain.com ? I don't know if I'm actually supposed to receive muse-bounces emails under normal circumstances, but the bigger problem is that I get the exact same error message in the logs when someone subscribes to my list and the system attempts to inform me (as I have admin_notify_mchanges turned on). I don't get informed of new subscriptions. Everything else works fine. Messages go to the list fine. When I subscribe or unsubscribe, I get informed via email. When I switch the list to require approval instead of confirmation, I do get notices of someone asking to subscribe. I get informed of a message held for moderation. Can someone fill me in on what might be happening here? I actually thought I had this working a few days ago - maybe some list setting has messed this up? Here's the error message Mar 01 13:06:07 2007 (5334) SMTP session failure: 553, 5.3.0 <mailman- bounces(a)virtdomain.com>... User unknown, msgid: <mailman. 5.1172783167.85775.muse(a)virtdomain.com> Thanks, Curt

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setup problems
by Renato César March 1, 2007

March 1, 2007

Hi, I have installed the mailman 2.1.9 following the site instructions, but the Postfix not recognize my list address. I use the "Integration with Postfix" describe in mailman site. When I create a list by web interface the e-mails are sent normally, but when a member list send a message to list the Postfix returns the follow message : This is the Postfix program at host ns.sesa.com.br. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The Postfix program list(a)teste.com: unknown user: list(a)teste.com My Postfix is running with a MySQL database. thanks, Renato

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default language and English
by Zbigniew Szalbot March 1, 2007

March 1, 2007

Hello, I have 3 questions about mailman (2.1.9). 1. I chose Polish as the default language for one list. And then I ticked off English. Only later did I notice that English has not been deactivated. Is it so that English is mandatory then? 2. Because Polish is the default language of a list, I edited the Polish template cronpass.txt and waited if the edited information will be sent to list members. However, to my surprise they got it in English. Does this have anything to do with no. 1 above? How can I make sure that both the subject line + mail content of password reminder will be output in Polish? 3. The information from point 2 was sent by me issuing "/usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/mailpasswds" command. However, cron was supposed to have done it at 5 in the morning today. That is Mailman's cron. Do I have to set it up somehow because it seems it is not working? Thank you very much for your help! -- Zbigniew Szalbot

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reset bounce score?
by IEM - network operating center March 1, 2007

March 1, 2007

hi. i have recently upgraded my mailman from 2.1.5-8sarge5 -> 1:2.1.9-5 (i am on debian-sarge/etch migration) since then a lot of subscribers to my list are unsubscribed due to bounces. this made me a bit confused and so i investigated the databases with dumpdb. this is an excerpt of the bounce information: current score: 4.0 last bounce date: (2005, 8, 10) email notices left: 3 last notice date: (1970, 1, 2) confirmation cookie: None since this seems to be outdated, i would like to ask whether there is a possibility to reset the bounce status for a member (or all) to "nothing". i guess this can be done with "withlist", but before i start learning withlist again, i'd like to ask if somebody has a ready to use solution at hand and is willing to share. fmga.sdr IOhannes

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