Mailman 3 December 2008 - Mailman-Users

Enabling SSL
by Rich Winkel Dec. 12, 2008

Dec. 12, 2008

Does anyone have a recipe for redirecting http: connections to https? Thanks, Rich

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Duplicate Subscription Confirmations
by Mark Sapiro Dec. 12, 2008

Dec. 12, 2008

Jim wrote: > >I have confirmed that one user who received the duplicate confirmation did, indeed, have a "subscribe" in the subject and the body. > >Is there a way to protect against that behavior by the -request process? I would expect that process to detect that the requests were within the same email message and send only one response. Is there a reason it doesn't behave in that manner today? It could be done, but it is tricky. As it is, CommandRunner just processes the subject and up to DEFAULT_MAIL_COMMANDS_MAX_LINES (default 25) body lines one at a time until it gets a non-command or error except non-commands or errors in the subject are OK. If it gets a subscribe command for a member, it's an error, but if subscribe requires confirmation or approval, the subscribed address won't be a member when the second request is processed. Note that it is perfectly valid to have multiple subscribe commands in one message as each command can request subscription of a different address. So, in order to avoid accepting a second subscribe request for the same address, we could look at all the pending subscriptions and see if we have one for this address, but even then we can't just ignore this request as it might be intentional (say the confirmation email from the prior request was lost) so we'd have to make a decision based on how recent the prior request was. It seems like a lot of effort for something that occurs infrequently and does no real harm. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Excessive bounces unsuscription
by Ray Dec. 11, 2008

Dec. 11, 2008

Hi. I'm Ray from espora.org. We're having some trouble with a mail list in our server. The fact is that we've all received an e-mail telling us about excessive bounces, so we've been all unsuscribed. We have no idea about what could be, so i'm writting all of you to know if you've experienced something like this, and tell me what can i try to do :) Thanks

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Moving mailman to a new directory (same server)
by Lynn, Michael (GWM-CAI) Dec. 11, 2008

Dec. 11, 2008

I ran out of disk on the partition where mailman (/var) resides - I've gotten more disk assigned and I'm planning to move mailman to a new file system (/apps). I found the faq entry and information on moving mailman from one server to another... but I'm wondering if anyone is aware of any special precautions associated with moving to a new directory location. I already found paths.py and grep'd for occurances of /var throughout... I'm just wondering if I need to force a recompile of the pyc's... perhaps I'm better biting the bullet and re-installing from source...? Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message w/attachments (message) may be privileged, confidential or proprietary, and if you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, do not use or share it and delete it. Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official statement of Merrill Lynch. Subject to applicable law, Merrill Lynch may monitor, review and retain e-communications (EC) traveling through its networks/systems. The laws of the country of each sender/recipient may impact the handling of EC, and EC may be archived, supervised and produced in countries other than the country in which you are located. This message cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. This message is subject to terms available at the following link: http://www.ml.com/e-communications_terms/. By messaging with Merrill Lynch you consent to the foregoing. --------------------------------------------------------------------------

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relaying and public lists
by Peter Kaszas Dec. 11, 2008

Dec. 11, 2008

Hi! I have a frontend mailserver with postfix, it is configured to relay all mails which have destination: listname(a)list.example.com to my mailman server. This mailman server is in DMZ, it have LOCAL IP, and it is configured with postfix. In my postfix transport.db file I added the link to relay all @list.algotech.hu to mailman: My mailman-postfix host get mails from the frontend server. Everything is cool. But, when I wanted to setup some lists to accept mails from everybody (public list) (that means I accept mails also from non-listmembers without any moderation), that means I setup in Privacy Options ... -> Sender Filter -> General Non Memeber rule : ACCEPT!!!! But it doesnt do that. Still If I send a mail from a non subscribed account, It holds up, and waits for moderation.... How could it be posibble? Did I something make wrong? Thx. Peter

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Duplicate Subscription Confirmations
by James Weingarten Dec. 11, 2008

Dec. 11, 2008

Hi. Have you ever seen Mailman issue duplicate subscription requests? When a user sends a request to subscribe, he is receiving two confirmations for each request. Nothing obvious is apparent in the logs and the confirmations are properly formatted. Email is flowing well (using Postfix as the MTA). Has anyone seen this problem before? Do you have any suggestions as to how to approach this problem? Here is some environmental information: OS - CentOS 5.2 (2.6.18-92.1.10.el5) Mailman - 2.1.9 Postfix - 2.3.3 Python - 2.4.3 Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jim

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postfix integration question
by Mark A. Olbert Dec. 11, 2008

Dec. 11, 2008

I'm running into a GID problem in the interface between mailman and postfix. Here's the error message: (Command died with status 2: "/usr/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman". Command output: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group "mailman", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group "nogroup". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group "mailman", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=nogroup'.) In googling the problem I came across one purported solution which involved simply creating a separate aliases file for mailman aliases, whose group ownership was set to mailman. That didn't work, nor did setting the separate aliases file's group ownership to nogroup. Before I go in and reconfigure mailman I thought I'd check here and in the postfix users group to see if anyone had any other alternative solutions. - Mark "Too much sanity may be madness! But maddest of all -- to see life as it is and not as it should be." __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3677 (20081209) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

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recovering from a "no space left on device" error
by Wallace Winfrey Dec. 10, 2008

Dec. 10, 2008

Earlier this morning the partition containing our mailman install (including archives) filled up. We were alerted to this by error messages being returned when trying to send emails. We cleared up some disk space, but did not restart mailman. Users no longer got the error message when posting to a list, so I figured all was well, and moved on to other tasks. A couple hours ago, a list member alerted me that the lists didn't seem to be sending out any mail. I checked the folder of what is normally a 75-100 message a day list and saw that no messages had been sent since the disk space issue. I restarted mailman, but it seems that the posts sent since the disk space issue was cleared up are going out very slowly. This is to be expected somewhat, but I was wondering if there was anything I could do to accelerate the process. Currently, qfiles/out has 158 .pck files. When I restarted mailman an hour ago, it was at 161. Assuming that mailman processes .pck files chronologically, it appears that only 15 messages have come into qfiles/out in the last hour, while 18 have gone out. Like I said, is there any way to expedite the out queue? Many of my qfiles directories have 0-length pck.tmp files: - qfiles/in has 398 0-length pck.tmp files (168 from today) - qfiles/bounces has 342 0-length pck.tmp files - qfiles/commands has 178 0-length pck.tmp files Is it ok to remove these? If so, is there a special way to remove them, like bin/discard for heldmsgs? I assume these 0-length files were created when the disk ran out of space. Also, qfiles/shunt currently has 11081 pickle files in it. I examined a few of them at random, and they all appear to be spam - some go back as far as 2006. Is there a proper way to clear out my qfiles/shunt directory as well? I did, of course, run unshunt, which temporarily cleared out the directory, but then repopulated it again after adding a few MB to the end of my mailman/logs/error file. I imagine I can just rm the 0-length files without issue, but manually removing .pck files from the data directory in the past has caused me headaches, so I wanted to make sure. Anything else mailman-related I should take into consideration after running out of disk space? cheers w

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Subscribing other lists to a list.
by Dan Mahoney, System Admin Dec. 9, 2008

Dec. 9, 2008

I just helped to manage a migration from Ecartis to Mailman for my day job. We have a periodic -announce list that we send out on to release new software versions. What I'm finding is we cannot duplicate the same behavior we have under Ecartis. Ecartis had a simple "import" option, where list B could be a subset of list A, but list A could also contain normal users. I've found this post http://www.saas.nsw.edu.au/solutions/umbrella.html and it explains things pretty well, but neither option would really work well for us. Umbrella lists don't work because they say "this was sent to the umbrella list" in the footers (which are suppressable) but also in the TO: header (or the cc header). We could send to: a fake address, with a cc: to a fake address, but this would set off spam filters, and we're staunchly anti-spam. On the other hand, Parent lists don't work, for the same reason -- there are people who sign up for -announce and -discuss and want to filter them separately, or who don't want the noise of -discuss and want to get it as a digest. Right now, the easiest (and dumbest) answer is "just make announcements to all three lists". Ecartis stripped duplicates there -- if you were on list a, I don't believe list b was imported. What I'd like to know if is possible within mailman is the following: a) A per-user flag that makes a user admin-control ONLY. No auto-bounce handling, no unsubscribe options, no password reminders...nothing. Essentially, this would move the "umbrella" setting from a global to a single address. This would solve about half the problem (the headers would still need to be fixed, mainly the to: header). But it's more than I have right now. -Dan Mahoney -- --------Dan Mahoney-------- Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org ---------------------------

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Blocking Mail from self...
by Jeffrey M. Johnson Dec. 9, 2008

Dec. 9, 2008

I have a list that has become a target for spam messages. The problem is I can't seem to figure out how to block the incoming spam. If the list name is mylist(a)mylistserver.com how do I block spam messages that are "sent" from a spoofed address of mylist(a)mylistserver.com? I have tried to block and list as always requiring approval but it doesn't seem to take. Jeffrey M. Johnson Sr. Info Tech Professional Central Operations

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