Mailman 3 March 2008 - Mailman-Users

Ongoing delivery issues - First Yahoo, now AOL
by Rick Harris March 9, 2008

March 9, 2008

Hello All, I posted a couple of weeks ago regarding mail not being delivered to Yahoo addresses. I've all but written that off as an Internet black hole. Messages from my list almost never make it to Yahoo recipients. If I post to the list, and cc a Yahoo address, then that works fine. Background noise only, none of this matters today. Today my question is about AOL. Since I had the issues with Yahoo, I created my own email accounts on Yahoo, Gmail and AOL for testing and monitoring … [View More]

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Mailman Installation - broken pipe / operating system error
by I-Ming Chen March 9, 2008

March 9, 2008

Hi, I've been trying to figure out this problem and I've seen some mention of it in past mailing list archives but I still cannot figure it out. I'm getting the following message in my Logwatch file: System Error Messages: putbody: write error: Broken pipe: 164 Time(s) Cannot exec /usr/share/doc/mailman-2.1.9/contrib/mm-handler: Permission denied: 168 Time(s) I think this is related to the "operating system error" that I've seen elsewhere as well but I can't figure it out yet. … [View More]

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FW: Preserve HTML format while scrubbing file attachments
by Darrell Burkey March 9, 2008

March 9, 2008

So, the simple answer is 'No, it is not possible to both preserve HTML formatted email messages and scrub file attachments', right? I believe you and understand your explanation (which I appreciate you taking the time to provide). It just seems odd that this is not possible. And no, I don't want to have a crack at it. :-) I'm perfectly happy to have the messages in plain text with attachments scrubbed both in the distributed messages and the archive. I'm just a bit tired of explaining to … [View More]users why it's that way and would prefer to let them wallow in their HTML rubbish if they prefer. Indeed, they are so insistent about their precious HTML that it may come down to having to allow file attachments just to apease them. And that's yet another thing I'm so very tired of explaining to users is a very bad idea. Let's send a 5Mb one page Word document to 500 people who don't want it. Ugh. Maybe mailing lists themeselves aren't that great of an idea any more. They sure can give me the poos. :-) Cheers. > -----Original Message----- > From: Brad Knowles [mailto:brad@shub-internet.org] > Sent: Sunday, 9 March 2008 2:09 PM > To: techmgr(a)case.org.au; mailman-users(a)python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Preserve HTML format while > scrubbing file attachments > > > On 3/9/08, Darrell Burkey wrote: > > > I've read the FAQs until my eyes are square and I can see some > > discussions in the mailing list archives but no definitive > answer to > > essentially this post in 2006: > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg40147.html > > > > which asks if there is a way to preserve html formatted messages > > while still having file attachments scrubbed? I don't think the > > replies to the above message really understood what was > being asked > > as I'm not worried about the archives at this point in > time, rather I > > just want a message that a user sends that contains html > formatting > > to retain that formatting and have any file attachment > sent converted > > to a link (scrubbed). > > Yes, we did understand. Given the highly variable nature of the way > that mail clients generate and interpret MIME/HTML formatted > messages, there simply isn't a general way to do this sort of thing. > What works for one client is likely to break others. The archive > scrubbing stuff that Mailman can do for digests can also be applied > to regular messages passing through the list, but the effect is the > same. > > Teach them not to post in HTML, or teach them to live with HTML being > converted to plain text, all the while their attachments can either > be completely stripped from the message, or they can be scrubbed as > appropriate. But any time you go mucking about with the internal > structure of a mail message, the output is not likely to be as > attractive as the sender would like. > > -- > Brad Knowles <brad(a)shub-internet.org> > LinkedIn Profile: <http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu> > [View Less]

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Preserve HTML format while scrubbing file attachments
by Darrell Burkey March 9, 2008

March 9, 2008

I have spent years campaigning against HTML email so I can't believe I'm asking this but no accounting for the wishes of users. :-( I've read the FAQs until my eyes are square and I can see some discussions in the mailing list archives but no definitive answer to essentially this post in 2006: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg40147.html which asks if there is a way to preserve html formatted messages while still having file attachments scrubbed? I don't think the … [View More]

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Server Overload Issues
by Fortney, James T. March 9, 2008

March 9, 2008

Barry, Mark, et all - I use multiple Mailman implementations on several ISPs and am generally very pleased with its operation. I have one issue that seems to exist to one degree or another with all of them and I would appreciate some insight from the experienced users. I have problems on my larger lists (they range from 85 to 420 members) with loss of outgoing mail. I have been able to identify what are apparently multiple reasons for these problems. All of them seem to be associated … [View More]

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Bug in Mailman version 2.1.9
by Fabricio Oliveira March 8, 2008

March 8, 2008

Hi, When I try access the page of Mailman appear the error bellow: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.9 We're sorry, we hit a bug!Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. I changed permissions of directorys, but don't work. I do the instructions discribe in following links: http://archive.netbsd.se/?ml=mailman-users&a=2007-… [View More]11&t=5744516, http://www.forum.techcuriosity.com/viewtopic.php?p=376&sid=0193ffbab1bee8e6… and http://forum.swsoft.com/pda/index.php/t-48560.html, but don't work too. Log - /usr/local/mailman/logs/error Mar 08 10:48:37 2008 qrunner(1656): Traceback (most recent call last):Mar 08 10:48:37 2008 qrunner(1656): File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 278, in ?Mar 08 10:48:37 2008 qrunner(1656): main()Mar 08 10:48:37 2008 qrunner(1656): File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 238, in mainMar 08 10:48:37 2008 qrunner(1656): qrunner.run()Mar 08 10:48:37 2008 qrunner(1656): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 71, in runMar 08 10:48:37 2008 qrunner(1656): filecnt = self._oneloop()Mar 08 10:48:37 2008 qrunner(1656): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 100, in _oneloopMar 08 10:48:37 2008 qrunner(1656): msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase)Mar 08 10:48:37 2008 qrunner(1656): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 150, in dequeueMar 08 10:48:37 2008 qrunner(1656): fp = open(filename)Mar 08 10:48:37 2008 qrunner(1656): IOError : [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/in/1204984114.6525619+5fb960a623c129aa4c6faf55d72e84188d8bafc6.pck'Mar 08 11:04:45 2008 (1883) couldn't load config file /usr/local/mailman/lists/cartaoberro/config.pck insecure string pickleMar 08 11:04:45 2008 (1883) couldn't load config file /usr/local/mailman/lists/cartaoberro/config.pck.last invalid load key, '¨'.Mar 08 11:04:45 2008 (1883) couldn't load config file /usr/local/mailman/lists/cartaoberro/config.db[Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/mailman/lists/cartaoberro/config.db'Mar 08 11:04:45 2008 (1883) couldn't load config file /usr/local/mailman/lists/cartaoberro/config.db.last[Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/mailman/lists/cartaoberro/config.db.last'Mar 08 11:04:45 2008 (1883) All cartaoberro fallbacks were corrupt, giving upMar 08 11:04:45 2008 (1883) couldn't load config file /usr/local/mailman/lists/cartaoberro/config.pckinsecure string pickleMar 08 11:04:45 2008 (1883) couldn't load config file /usr/local/mailman/lists/cartaoberro/config.pck.lastinvalid load key, '¨'.Mar 08 11:04:45 2008 (1883) couldn't load config file /usr/local/mailman/lists/c artaoberro/config.db[Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/mailman/lists/cartaoberro/config.db'Mar 08 11:04:45 2008 (1883) couldn't load config file /usr/local/mailman/lists/cartaoberro/config.db.last[Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/mailman/lists/cartaoberro/config.db.last'Mar 08 11:04:45 2008 (1883) All cartaoberro fallbacks were corrupt, giving upMar 08 11:04:45 2008 admin(1883): @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@admin(1883): [----- Mailman Version: 2.1.9 -----]admin(1883): [----- Traceback ------]admin(1883): Traceback (most recent call last):admin(1883): File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 101, in run_mainadmin(1883): main()admin(1883): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 75, in mainadmin(1883): admin_overview(_('No such list <em>%(safelistname)s</em>'))admin(1883): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 233, in admi n_overviewadmin(1883): mlist = MailList.MailList(name, lock=0)admin(1883): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 130, in __ini t__admin(1883): self.Load()admin(1883): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 644, in Loadadmin(1883): raise Errors.MMCorruptListDatabaseError, eadmin(1883): MMCorruptListDatabaseError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/ usr/local/mailman/lists/cartaoberro/config.db.last'admin(1883): [----- Python Information -----]admin(1883): sys.version = 2.4.3 (#1, Jul 26 2006, 20:13:39)[GCC 3.4.6]admin(1883): sys.executable = /usr/bin/pythonadmin(1883): sys.prefix = /usradmin(1883): sys.exec_prefix = /usradmin(1883): sys.path = /usradmin(1883): sys.platform = linux2admin(1883): [----- Environment Variables -----]admin(1883): SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/1.3.37 (Unix)admin(1883): SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/adminadmin(1883): SERVER_SIGNATURE: <ADDRESS>Apache/1.3.37 Server at serverlinux.r evistaoberro.com.br Port 80</ADDRESS>admin(1883):admin(1883): REQUEST_METHOD: GETadmin(1883): PATH_INFO: /cartaoberro/logoutadmin(1883): SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1admin(1883): QUERY_STRING:admin(1883): HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5 .1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)admin(1883): HTTP_CONNECTION: Keep-Aliveadmin(1883): SERVER_NAME: serverlinux.revistaoberro.com.bradmin(1883): REMOTE_ADDR: 192.168.0.2admin(1883): PATH_TRANSLATED: /var/www/htdocs/cartaoberro/logoutadmin(1883): SERVER_PORT: 80admin(1883): SERVER_ADDR: 200.171.57.41admin(1883): DOCUMENT_ROOT: /var/www/htdocsadmin(1883): PYTHONPATH: /usr/local/mailmanadmin(1883): SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin//adminadmin(1883): SERVER_ADMIN: root(a)tree.slackware.lanadmin(1883): HTTP_HOST: serverlinux.revistaoberro.com.bradmin(1883): REQUEST_URI: /mailman/admin/cartaoberro/logoutadmin(1883): HTTP_ACCEPT: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg , application/x-shockwave-flash, application/vnd.ms-excel, application/vnd.ms-po werpoint, application/msword, */*admin(1883): GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1admin(1883): REMOTE_PORT: 4572admin(1883): HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: pt-bradmin(1883): HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip, deflateadmin(1883): UNIQUE_ID: R9Kc-MirOSkAAASPEZY I deleted the file '/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/in/1204984114.6525619+5fb960a623c129aa4c6faf55d72e84188d8bafc6.pck' and reboot the server. See log after reboot: Mar 08 12:03:32 2008 mailmanctl(1114): Traceback (most recent call last):Mar 08 12:03:32 2008 mailmanctl(1114): File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 548, in ?Mar 08 12:03:32 2008 mailmanctl(1114): main()Mar 08 12:03:32 2008 mailmanctl(1114): File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 390, in mainMar 08 12:03:32 2008 mailmanctl(1114): lock = acquire_lock(force)Mar 08 12:03:32 2008 mailmanctl(1114): File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 214, in acquire_lockMar 08 12:03:32 2008 mailmanctl(1114): lock = acquire_lock_1(force)Mar 08 12:03:32 2008 mailmanctl(1114): File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 208, in acquire_lock_1Mar 08 12:03:32 2008 mailmanctl(1114): os.unlink(os.path.join(mm_cfg.LOCK_DIR, tempfile))Mar 08 12:03:32 2008 mailmanctl(1114): OSError : [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/mailman/locks/master-qrunner.serverlinux.1148' Apache error_log GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 REMOTE_PORT: 4322 HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: pt-br HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip, deflate UNIQUE_ID: R9KXGsirOSkAAAQNA44[Sat Mar 8 11:19:34 2008] [error] [client 192.168.0.2] attempt to invoke directory as script: /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin[Sat Mar 8 11:22:24 2008] [error] [client 192.168.0.2] attempt to invoke directory as script: /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin[Sat Mar 8 11:55:49 2008] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down[Sat Mar 8 11:57:12 2008] [notice] Apache/1.3.37 (Unix) configured -- resuming normal operations[Sat Mar 8 11:57:12 2008] [notice] Accept mutex: sysvsem (Default: sysvsem) Permissionsdrwxrwsr-x root mailman mailman/-rwxrwsr-x root mailman 1204984114.6525619+5fb960a623c129aa4c6faf55d72e84188d8bafc6.pck* Please help me to solve this problem. Thanks. Regards,Fabrício _________________________________________________________________ Confira vídeos com notícias do NY Times, gols direto do Lance, videocassetadas e muito mais no MSN Video! http://video.msn.com/?mkt=pt-br [View Less]

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Old messages in bounces and in
by Sebastian Hagedorn March 8, 2008

March 8, 2008

Hi, we've been running Mailman for several years now (currently version 2.1.9), but up to now we've neglected some housekeeping. Actually that's a testament to how well it works for the most part! Still, I guess there are things we should be doing. Recently we've started running the Daily Status Report script. There are some issues that I don't understand. Here's one: Subdirectory: bounces ============================== Entries: 37 ------------------------------ total 304 drwxrws--- 2 … [View More]mailman mailman 8192 Mar 6 23:57 . drwxrwsr-x 12 root mailman 4096 Dec 27 2006 .. -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 3115 Jan 9 2007 1168304393.8014059+653abf0ec76b61ef5f5245e7f08d944c441bc306.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 3074 Jan 27 2007 1169866007.5216539+598123641f4820025a7c1b576d18b61e04948bd7.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 3347 Feb 13 2007 1171355334.9604959+b04835e809571383842bc27f2ab87b74add6707d.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 4001 Feb 14 2007 1171480541.145843+1691249655c377204dd41524524d880d3d7c83ad.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 1311 Mar 1 2007 1172779123.972533+6278c754a56f31565ae77b5d72ae26ce5f1a8fe4.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 1310 Mar 1 2007 1172779125.3440011+e4d563178ad2870dd873807f9312ac5a235ae21b.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 2822 Mar 5 2007 1173099887.501122+d5713e44878095cd77a72d9225194e38036b950f.bak More than 20 total entries, skipping ... -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 3158 Oct 11 00:11 1192054281.6601789+d97aca15588bc28b251fcc49f042f505ea5f2241.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 5511 Oct 15 14:43 1192452228.843272+5ac3cc2cf2c9459028d3832794ce3ff0a0784079.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 5514 Oct 15 14:43 1192452229.1753449+c79bb5e1034835ef39d7d06a22fd073ab0f8f303.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 4613 Oct 23 10:19 1193127548.6333981+1b976180b5bab9d648fe0433783e6d90ab814457.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 5553 Nov 6 14:56 1194357386.3414631+66d4ba5d970da15e83fb931bd025a378764e44b5.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 5557 Nov 6 14:56 1194357386.4404061+80a6df21be51dd4114656c9457c8e1fb393f951c.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 5307 Nov 6 14:56 1194357397.079324+6683df3a5bfca7bc07d2b836b932492cafbac502.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 5571 Dec 24 18:13 1198516384.5765851+8b8622602ba046cb557a275173e5d915df8ea578.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 4951 Feb 13 13:28 1202905682.6427169+efe36a78f0a511d130ec88250ab92f082d9cef35.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 3957 Mar 3 17:24 1204561474.39325+8808de39e232bc9fe6465d0470dfe921d2cfb2aa.bak Subdirectory: in ============================== Entries: 159 ------------------------------ total 1100 drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 212992 Mar 6 23:58 . drwxrwsr-x 12 root mailman 4096 Dec 27 2006 .. -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 4140 Jan 3 2007 1167840137.109689+79891fb75a203b544dd071b9c7b1f03932b60587.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 5837 Jan 4 2007 1167894274.0668249+207e2bf67b4335f2085b20b5afdffdbb9d7a36fe.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 3849 Jan 5 2007 1167978082.64961+baca5c35ea3fbe5a3e976ac322aa329c8f0eae5a.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 4422 Jan 9 2007 1168342414.339148+6b59a0d214fda24183090557092a37451310cbcc.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 1275 Jan 12 2007 1168582657.618654+60c97a5ac1d4c344605feab62f23148a69dd3bb4.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 2645 Jan 14 2007 1168770867.1258171+62228a34fc53f18ff8686dc8b4e18a4f2caea7ed.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 14447 Jan 22 2007 1169420696.66712+5bf24a593fc5b2e34dd2ac7e0e00e5d612bc4477.bak More than 20 total entries, skipping ... -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 4096 Feb 28 18:50 1204221027.480731+a39979365cdbf418a21465ec2bbb47afda9276d9.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 5945 Feb 29 11:50 1204282253.134367+61d592f0567d442e42c2b8e8b1c6b7cc8f302c0a.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 2421 Mar 1 19:44 1204397049.8067479+6dfd79a62091095873e80c31efae6ed1d2f54021.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 4452 Mar 3 07:59 1204527543.135545+64f432195a7a3d864c3a6b88596945145b0b0859.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 2552 Mar 3 13:56 1204548978.1132109+314aaaa282213138fb8d999af042d7ae615318b7.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 2760 Mar 3 16:16 1204557395.872571+adcf0a5367a0ea5c9d7cb931bb5ea6316ad15a26.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 6348 Mar 3 19:23 1204568594.918916+8c94f53cb900d9e6a28bbb2ce017536d88b27954.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 3045 Mar 4 19:35 1204655705.780087+0ce84a8261b656101af135a8eba6ca0c562ea892.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 5082 Mar 5 14:11 1204722671.2960739+ccac27bcb7eac696da944b847dc2d825fec96611.bak -rw-rw---- 1 mail mailman 5407 Mar 6 02:07 1204765651.4657221+d1caa1a9a4df844c4dc8395f1ea2989cddadf95f.bak What are those? Can I just delete them? How do they end up there? Cheers, Sebastian -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Gebäude 52), Zimmer 18.:. Zentrum für angewandte Informatik - Universitätsweiter Service RRZK .:.Universität zu Köln / Cologne University - ✆ +49-221-478-5587.:. .:.:.:.Skype: shagedorn.:.:.:. [View Less]

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Bounce Parms for a "Monthly" Announce-only List?
by Barry Finkel March 7, 2008

March 7, 2008

I have a Majordomo list that I will be converting to Mailman 2.1.9. The list is an announce-only list, where the announcements are made the first working day of each month. What bounce parameters are suggested for this list? Thanks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone: +1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 … [View More]

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pending request problem
by M.Sargmacher＠gmx.de March 7, 2008

March 7, 2008

Hello, one of our lists gets a daily reminder about an open request.But when I follow the link to the pending moderator request page no message is listet there. I deleted the pending.pck and request.pck that belong to the list. But next day the message appeared again at 8:00. The subdirectories of the qfiles are empty except for shunt. Could you please give me a hint where I can delete this message? Thanks! Mailman 2.1.9 Ubunty Gutsy Regards, Markus -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----… [View More]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Weekly reminder
by Dragon March 7, 2008

March 7, 2008

Prashanth sent the message below at 23:00 3/6/2008: >Hi, > > I want to mailman to send weekly mails, as of mailman >sends mails Montly to the users in the list with their password I want >to replace the data and ask mailman to send mails weekly. > >To say in simple words i want mailman to send the data that i give >weekly. So, how to do that? ---------------- End original message. --------------------- OK, if I understand you correctly, you want the … [View More]

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