Mailman 3 April 2008 - Mailman-Users

Send to select subscribers
by John Fleming April 28, 2008

April 28, 2008

I have a user asking if there is a way to send to selected list subscribers? He wants to send a message to about 100 subscribers. I don't think Mailman can do that from the members web page. Any other ideas? Thanks! - John

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Subscription mail-back failure
by Jan Steinman April 27, 2008

April 27, 2008

I have a hosting client who is seeing intermittent failures of the subscription process. The user successfully fills in the subscription information, gets the subscription confirmation notice with the link and then tries to reply, and gets a bounce: > Permanent Failure: > 550_5.1.1_<ecovillagenewsletter- > request(a)ecovillagenewsletter.org>:_Recipient > _address_rejected:_User_unknown_in_virtual_alias_table > Delivery last attempted at Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:41:20 -0000 > Reporting-MTA: dns; isp.att.net > Arrival-Date: 27 Apr 2008 1:41:04 +0000 > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; <ecovillagenewsletter-request(a)EcovillageNewsletter.org > > > Action: failed > Status: 5.0.0 550_5.1.1_<ecovillagenewsletter-request(a)ecovillagenewsletter.org > >:_Recipient_address_rejected:_User_unknown_in_virtual_alias_table > Diagnostic-Code: smtp; Permanent Failure: Other undefined Status > Last-Attempt-Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:41:20 -0000 Apparently, clicking the link is working, because hundreds of subscriptions have succeeded. I can only assume the only ones failing are ones that people mail back, rather than clicking the link. This is a fairly plain-jane installation. EcovillageNewsletter.org is defined as a virtual domain. I don't see where I should have configured anything special to enable this. Other mailing lists I host (also on virtual domains) )aren't having this problem. Any clues where I should begin digging? :::: Because the -- all which is on the table begins to address the big cost drivers. For example, how benefits are calculated, for example, is on the table. Whether or not benefits rise based upon wage increases or price increases. There's a series of parts of the formula that are being considered. And when you couple that, those different cost drivers, affecting those -- changing those with personal accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised more likely to be -- or closer delivered to that has been promised. Does that make any sense to you? -- George W. Bush :::: :::: Jan Steinman http://www.VeggieVanGogh.com ::::

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subscription request sent twice
by Zbigniew Szalbot April 26, 2008

April 26, 2008

Hello, Sorry for yet another post. I have been googling to find an answer but have not been successful. It seems that on my new server Mailman will sent each subscription request twice. Regular posts, information that someone is already on list are not sent twice. Only subscription requests. For example, these are the two I got while testing: confirm 0be9992ac451e22a969a29bbc5f7c5a4d2a9c30d confirm 3a90201f480e72b58bc804f650f67a84a18bc284 and Mailman's subscribe log shows: Apr 26 10:53:54 2008 (76585) eu.ppl: pending Zbigniew Szalbot <zszalbot(a)yahoo.com> zszalbot(a)yahoo.com Apr 26 10:53:54 2008 (76585) eu.ppl: pending Zbigniew Szalbot <zszalbot(a)yahoo.com> zszalbot(a)yahoo.com I have analized MTA's logs and they have really been sent twice as separate messages although I requested subscription only once. I am not blaming Mailman. I feel that there must be something wrong with my setup that this happens. I'll appreciate if someone has had the same experience and can suggest where to start troubleshooting it. Thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.lc-words.com

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Turning off digests
by Zbigniew Szalbot April 26, 2008

April 26, 2008

Hello, I have a question about digests. I do not need them for the types of mailing lists we use, so I was glad to see an option to switch them off. I set DEFAULT_DIGESTABLE = No in mm_cfg.py and then restarted mailman. However, it has no effect on existing lists. Is that so that the setting is effective only for lists created from now on (and not on the existing ones)? Thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.lc-words.com

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Mailman hosted on 1and1?
by Eric Snyder April 26, 2008

April 26, 2008

We have our corporate domain hosted on 1and1.com. Can we install mailman on the 1and1 environment? Anyone already doing this? -- =================================== Eric Snyder Pres/CEO; Snyder Thorn Enterprises, Inc. (613) 688-1570; EGS(a)SnyderThorn.com www.SnyderThorn.com ===================================

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'NoneType' object has no attribute 'lower'
by Zbigniew Szalbot April 26, 2008

April 26, 2008

Hello, I have installed mailman 2.1.9.5 and now upgraded to 2.1.10 and see the following in mailman's error log. Apr 25 20:02:49 2008 (24138) SHUNTING: 1209146569.0795979+80ec39567f7efbc1306687a6c84ed28bfccfc400 Apr 25 20:04:36 2008 (24138) Uncaught runner exception: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'lower' Apr 25 20:04:36 2008 (24138) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 114, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 185, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/CommandRunner.py", line 241, in _dispose res.do_command('join') File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/CommandRunner.py", line 139, in do_command return handler.process(self, args) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Commands/cmd_subscribe.py", line 74, in process if digest is None and password.lower() in ('digest', 'nodigest'): AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'lower' I will appreciate if you could help me deal with it. Thank you! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.lc-words.com

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Re: [Mailman-Users] "IOError reading list extension" Message
by b19141＠anl.gov April 25, 2008

April 25, 2008

Barry Finkel wrote: >>Since these three files are not Mailman lists, >>which Mailman process that was treating them as list names is >>not important. Mark Sapiro replied: >It's important to me. I would like to understand why the name of a file >in the lists/ directory is being returned (apparently by >Utils.list_lists()) as a list name, because this isn't supposed to >happen (and I can't make it happen in my test installation). katydid# ls -al /var/lib/mailman/lists/ | grep -v ^d total 992 katydid# Once I removed those files, there are no other regular files in the directory, only sub-directories. These messages are appearing each hour at hh:00:03 and also at 07:20:03 I have a Mailman cron that runs each morning at 07:20 /usr/local/cron-scripts/mailman_bounce_report.exec to produce a summary of all subscriptions with a non-zero bounce score; it essentially does #!/bin/csh foreach list (`ls /var/lib/mailman/lists`) /usr/sbin/withlist -r get_bounce_info $list \ > mailman_bounce_report.tmpout end where get_bounce_info came from your repository http://veenet.value.net/~msapiro/scripts/get_bounce_info.py In that script I assume that everything in the lists subdirectory is the name of a Mailman list; I do not check for a regular file, and I am not sure if I really need to code such a check. I have another cron that runs every hour, on the hour, that produces a flat file containing records listname e-mail address so I have a list of all of the subscriptions. That script /usr/local/cron-scripts/mailman_who.exec essentially does: #!/bin/csh foreach list (`ls /var/lib/mailman/lists`) /usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_members -o $destdir/$list $list end I also do not have a check in this script. I am using foreach list (`ls /var/lib/mailman/lists`) and not Utils.list_lists()) to get a list of lists. I assume that the Utils.list_lists()) code has the check that I do not have in "foreach list". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone: +1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 222, Room D209 Internet: BSFinkel(a)anl.gov Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994

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checksums
by Melinda Gilmore April 25, 2008

April 25, 2008

I trying to find out if mailman uses the md5 checksum or this has to be set up with the installation. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. I have not been able to find it so far.

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Is it OK to unshunt "bad" messages?
by Sebastian Hagedorn April 25, 2008

April 25, 2008

Hi, I just noticed a message in the "bad" directory. I looked at it with show_qfiles and it looked harmless. Probably it was broken WRT its MIME encoding, but it wasn't a virus or anything. On a whim I ran unshunt on the "bad" directory and the message was then delivered to the list. Basically I'm curious why Mailman didn't consider the message "bad" that time around. Is unshunt-processing somehow different from normal processing? Thank, Sebastian -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Gebäude 52), Zimmer 18.:. Zentrum für angewandte Informatik - Universitätsweiter Service RRZK .:.Universität zu Köln / Cologne University - ✆ +49-221-478-5587.:. .:.:.:.Skype: shagedorn.:.:.:.

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passwords
by Melinda Gilmore April 25, 2008

April 25, 2008

Does mailman have restrictions for passwords. Like a number or cap needs in the passwords. I am not finding anything on that. I know in my experience it just lets me put in anything for a password, wether it be for owner or user? Melinda Gilmore Systems Engineer The Ohio State University Enterprise Messaging/OIT 614-292-4953

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