Mailman 3 July 2008 - Mailman-Users

Fwd: Mailing list server transaction history
by Maickel Pandie 24 Jul '08

24 Jul '08

Thank you very much. I will post the result of the test if I already done. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Date: 2008/7/24 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing list server transaction history To: Maickel Pandie <maickel.pandie(a)gmail.com> Maickel Pandie wrote: > > I have some research about mailman... I changed Mailman scheduling policy > form FIFO to size based. To analyzed it I need transaction history from > mailing list server that already running in the internet. I don't need > detail transaction history of your server because that is your company > secret, I just need how many email that your mailing list server received in > one day and also the size. Maybe like this: > 250 email around 12 kB > 10 email around 5 MB > 7 email around 10 MB Here is some data from the postfix entries in my maillog files. This table lists every message that was delivered by Postfix to Mailman for posting to a list. The table in in the form Date list name post size in bytes post size in bytes ... It is sorted by date, list and size. These are posts delivered to Mailman. The size of the post as sent to the list members may be significantly smaller due to content filtering (typically less than half this size due to removal of HTML from multipart/alternative). In some cases, the post may have not been sent to the list members at all. If you want the data aggregated by size, you can do that as well as I. Obviously, this server is not heavily used, but in case you are interested anyway, here are the data. Jun 22 gpc-talk 3951 4317 4388 11124 41514 45257 87916 wed_ride 3951 4317 Jun 23 gpc-talk 1867 2591 3711 3958 4092 4254 5996 8849 9777 gpc-test 1305 1307 1317 wed_ride 2591 Jun 24 gpc-talk 1160 1776 2199 2490 2568 2837 3021 3069 3412 5142 6828 8958 11389 24608 wed_ride 11428 Jun 25 gpc-talk 1681 1758 1843 2473 2655 3633 3996 4695 5491 7561 7970 Jun 26 gpc-talk 1151 1764 2699 4916 6869 Jun 27 gpc-talk 1893 2350 2424 2458 2899 3984 4347 4755 5616 6076 6103 6143 8319 10384 92961 93042 Jun 28 gpc-talk 1367 1589 2130 2615 2620 2755 3568 3877 5513 5617 Jun 29 gpc-talk 1274 2209 2486 2495 2770 2862 2947 4174 4210 4751 5115 6302 8774 12774 Jun 30 gpc-talk 1221 2203 2346 2513 2759 2809 2856 3157 3793 4131 4216 4578 6487 10659 1353192 wed_ride 2513 10653 Jul 1 gpc-talk 2071 2372 2600 2668 2799 2804 3078 3288 4473 4816 4838 5518 6519 Jul 2 gpc-talk 1742 2114 2320 2369 2499 2754 3580 4248 5302 13055 Jul 3 century-announce 4133 gpc-talk 1319 1524 3103 4274 4748 5880 gpc-tues 3473 Jul 4 gpc-talk 2275 2447 2728 2829 3697 4007 5641 5757 6812 Jul 5 gpc-talk 1585 2043 2235 2281 5210 12453 Jul 6 gpc-talk 1113 1478 1600 1770 1806 1920 1922 2392 3133 3608 10575 wed_ride 3317 Jul 7 gpc-talk 1832 2032 2238 2526 2888 3009 3450 3838 4363 5317 5766 6293 7385 7397 11507 35698 Jul 8 gpc-talk 1353 1907 1972 2273 2819 2949 4243 6236 16691 Jul 9 gpc-talk 1749 1860 2014 2064 2708 3650 4111 5299 Jul 10 gpc-talk 1542 2649 3336 3445 3468 4790 5555 7727 10525 Jul 11 gpc-talk 1419 1519 1742 1822 2108 2392 2393 2541 2568 2606 2711 2889 3278 3351 3352 4501 5184 5211 10714 gpc-test 1307 Jul 12 gpc-talk 1737 1916 2814 3136 3160 5586 7316 9771 13769 22715 Jul 13 gpc-talk 1745 1860 1968 2335 2748 4516 12225 14328 wed_ride 2341 Jul 14 gpc-talk 2096 2208 2209 2221 2476 2983 3368 3546 5405 5852 7655 17473 wed_ride 1880 Jul 15 gpc-century 2910 gpc-talk 1937 2324 2429 2458 2526 2623 2876 3601 3906 4027 5559 8037 8141 11633 12422 18444 wed_ride 1951 2633 Jul 16 gpc-talk 1992 2094 2387 2945 2974 3197 3287 3465 3964 3983 4153 4158 4572 4876 5529 5717 6645 8061 8635 12828 13399 13595 15280 Jul 17 gpc-talk 1762 1866 2238 2645 2726 2748 2828 2876 3243 3355 3513 3958 3975 3991 4015 4187 4452 4990 5237 6021 6128 6210 7468 9110 11098 12619 13047 Jul 18 gpc-talk 1728 1819 1854 1919 2109 2148 2428 2860 3035 3346 3347 3655 3683 3819 4518 5010 5519 6197 7095 7629 8451 8818 9731 9823 15898 17513 wed_ride 4223 Jul 19 gpc-talk 2479 2732 3770 3970 8937 Jul 20 gpc-talk 5559 7445 Jul 21 gpc-talk 2236 wed_ride 3271 8537 17350 Jul 22 gpc-talk 980 1615 1636 1941 3493 7424 Jul 23 gpc-talk 1932 1978 2004 2187 2596 2981 3280 3352 4359 6654 -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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how to remove pending moderator requests from the list from command prompt
by Nitin Bhadauria 24 Jul '08

24 Jul '08

Hello frnds I am tring to remove the pending moderator requests from a list but when i click on the 'Tend to pending moderator requests' it ends on an error 500 internal server error.. So i want to remove the pending mails from the server ...... where can i find the mails and is it the right way to remove the pending mails from the server .

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Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] GNU Mailman Site Redesign
by Terri Oda 23 Jul '08

23 Jul '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I've done a bit more work with the site redesign, and updated the working content I had. The latest version is here: http://terri.zone12.com/mm-website/ So, that's using some red/pink from the logo as link colours as someone suggested to me. It looks fine to me on this macbook, but I'm at the Ottawa Linux Symposium and don't have my usual array of desktops to test from, so someone please let me know if it's unreadable. (I've cc'ed mailman-users to get more eyes.) Here's one wit the same idea, using darker reds: http://terri.zone12.com/mm-website/?css=mailman-dark And the original two, both beige and gray are here: http://terri.zone12.com/mm-website/?css=mailman-orig http://terri.zone12.com/mm-website/?css=mailman-alt More suggestions welcome! Terri -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFIh2PpnB1cG1wafMARAth3AJ9S3tMKRa7L6GkAE3RM5M5QOclC+gCdHocX mDAbF8GrYVygAg6uzfUmooE= =fz4P -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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MailMan Pending Requests not being removed.
by Gunville, Vincent 23 Jul '08

23 Jul '08

Mailman running on RHEL4 version 2.1.5 Problem. Daily email from cron lists 26000 pending requests. You go into the GUI and there are like 10. Clear the 10, and the GUI lists no more pending requests. Have run check_db and check_perms. No errors produced. Nothing other than normal messages in the logs. Interesting thing is that if you run the cron job that produces the pending requests email by hand... it lists the correct number. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Vincent

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bounce question
by Roberto Gherardi 23 Jul '08

23 Jul '08

Hi, I have a question the engine bounce updates by hand only when it recognizes the mistakes? thank's

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Mailing list server transaction history
by Maickel Pandie 23 Jul '08

23 Jul '08

Hi Friend... I have some research about mailman... I changed Mailman scheduling policy form FIFO to size based. To analyzed it I need transaction history from mailing list server that already running in the internet. I don't need detail transaction history of your server because that is your company secret, I just need how many email that your mailing list server received in one day and also the size. Maybe like this: 250 email around 12 kB 10 email around 5 MB 7 email around 10 MB Please, Help me Thanks

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Re: [Mailman-Users] went live - big mistake - please help
by xp xp 22 Jul '08

22 Jul '08

Hello Mark, Could you please let me know how to access smtp-log? So the mailman will bounce if it can't send email to a valid email ID? how many attempts will it take before it quits? I saw the email in the archives, but I cannot see who got it. Is there a feature where mailman can show which users got an email? please help. drb ----- Original Message ---- From: Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> To: xp xp <bizzebee_xp(a)yahoo.com> Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:38:33 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] went live - big mistake - please help xp xp wrote: > I went big including hundreds of my members with mailman. THought > everything was working, but not so. By default -automatic bounce > processing is enabled and I found that it had checked 'nomail' [B] > for several members eventhough they had a valid email ID Setting was > at5.0. Then from admin interface I changed to 'mailman automatic > procesing - No". Also unchecked all the members who had 'nomail' [B]. > This should rectify all users to get mails again. Unfortunately, when > a new message was sent to listserv, some of my users didn't get it > again. Can somebody help me please? drb The mail to those members is bouncing. Turning off automated bounce processing isn't going to change that. It's just going to cause Mailman to ignore the bounces. Look in Mailman's smtp-failure log to see if there is some problem showing there. If not, set bounce_processing to Yes and bounce_notify_owner_on_disable to Yes so you will see the actual bounce notices to see why they are bouncing. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Christian Lehrmann/PTB ist außer Haus.
by Christian.Lehrmann＠ptb.de 22 Jul '08

22 Jul '08

Ich werde ab Di, 07/22/2008 nicht im Büro sein. Ich kehre zurück am Fr, 08/01/2008. Ich werde Ihre Nachricht nach meiner Rückkehr beantworten. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Christian Lehrmann **************************************************************************** Dr.-Ing. Christian Lehrmann AG 3.72 Physikalisch-Technische Bundesanstalt Bundesallee 100 38116 Braunschweig Tel: 0531-592-3533 Fax: 0531-59269-3533 eMail Privat: Christian.Lehrmann(a)gmxpro.de ****************************************************************************

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Restricting subscribers
by Adrián Márques 22 Jul '08

22 Jul '08

Hello there, I'm new to mailman, trying to set up a few lists and would like to restrict subscribers to those with email addresses from a particular domain, for example, only addresses of the form <user>@foodomain.com. I've seen that a moderator can accept subscribers, but can the filter described above be automated? I'd highly appreciate any responses on this; I've looked around but couldn't find anything. Thanks in advance. Regards. Adrián.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] went live - big mistake - please help
by b19141＠anl.gov 22 Jul '08

22 Jul '08

drb wrote: >Hello Mark, >Could you please let me know how to access smtp-log? >So the mailman will bounce if it can't send email to a valid email ID? >how many attempts will it take before it quits? I saw the email in the >archives, but I cannot see who got it. Is there a feature where mailman >can show which users got an email? please help. On my Ubuntu 2.1.9 system Mailman puts its logs in /var/log/mailman With respect to "can't send email to a valid email ID", it depends upon the nature of the error. If the e-mail address is valid, and everything is correct, then the mail will be sent the first time, and there will be no bounces. If the e-mail address is incorrect, the receiving mail system will bounce the mail, and Mailman will not retry. If the SMTP (RFC 2821) dialog with the remote mailer results in a 400-level return code, then the mail will be retried. If the SMTP dialog results in a 500-level return code, then a retry will not occur. I believe that Mailman relies on a Mail Transfer Agent (MTA), for example, Postfix, to do its mail delivery, It is the MTA that handles the retry. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone: +1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 222, Room D209 Internet: BSFinkel(a)anl.gov Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994

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