Mailman 3 January 2009 - Mailman-Users

List-to-list email?
by Jan Steinman Jan. 29, 2009

Jan. 29, 2009

Sorry if this is a FAQ -- I have done a bit of searching first. How can I allow one list to send mail to another list? I have the sending list mentioned as a non-list authorized sender to the receiving list, but it always queues it up for admin approval. :::: "We need a revolution." :::: "Keep saying that, and we'll need a lawyer, assuming they let us have one." :::: Jan Steinman http://www.VeggieVanGogh.com

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Mailman Version
by Jeff Bernier Jan. 29, 2009

Jan. 29, 2009

I have inherited a Mailman list manager system, and I am currently trying to establish a regular backup for this system, as well as move a couple of lists over to it from an older system which is being retired. This new system is a Mac OS X Server running 10.5.4, Mailman 2.1.9, and Python 2.5.1. I am a newbie to Mailman and have a few questions: What version of Mailman is recommended ? Am I good with 2.1.9? Are there any issues with moving lists from 2.1.5 running on a G4? Thanks a bunch, Jeff Jeff Bernier Rhode Island School of Design 401.454.6168

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Fwd: Re: Linux Preferred?
by Tim Ferguson Jan. 29, 2009

Jan. 29, 2009

I'm sorry, Hank, didn't mean to send it directly to you. And thank you for your help. Tim >>> On 1/29/2009 at 10:49 AM, Hank van Cleef <vancleef(a)lostwells.net> wrote: The esteemed Tim Ferguson has said: > > Hmmm, a couple of questions. Has anyone tried Mailman with SuSE Linux? = > We are a Novell shop here having added a couple of Windows Servers only in = > the last couple of years. And I run DansGuardian on an IPCop box to = > filter our Internet access as required. Used an E-Smith box first. =20 > > I downloaded the documentation from your web site, but as you say, with = > the Linux versions I've been trying it on, the configuration steps do not = > always work as I'd hoped, especially on SME, a version that a neighboring = > school district tech person got up and running and now delivers e-mails = > and text messages to parents that sign-up for the service. This is my = > goal. We prefer to let the parents sign-up on their own rather than = > making phone calls to everyone as several of the popular alerting packages = > do. Also, this leaves the burden on them to keep their information = > updated. And, but having a different list for each school, we can = > customize some of those messages since each school/age level has it's own = > needs.=20 > > Thanks,=20 > > Tim=20 > > > >>> On 1/28/2009 at 11:08 AM, Hank van Cleef <vancleef(a)lostwells.net> = > wrote: > Hello Tim: You may not be aware of it, but your response was mailed to me, and not to the mailman-user's list. The questions you are asking are questions I shouldn't try to answer. My primary platforms are Sun Solaris, and I run a locally-modified version of Mailman. Setting the distro Mailman up on a Solaris system is fairly easy, but the intentions of the developers in the installation manual have to be interpreted for Solaris. I'm not at all familiar with details of any Linux implementation, so answers to your questions would have to come from the mail list. Hank

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ValueError: unsupported format character [Hebrew Options Page]
by Ephraim Silverberg Jan. 29, 2009

Jan. 29, 2009

We allow our Mailman users to choose between English and Hebrew. When one of our users tried to access the "options" page of the list, he received: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.11 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Looking in the logs I found that the ``bottom line'' was the error: ValueError: unsupported format character '\xd7' (0xffffffd7) at index 139 Full log attached. Any ideas? Thanks, Ephraim ___________________________________________________________________________ Ephraim Silverberg, CSE System Group, Phone number: 972-2-6585521 Hebrew University, Jerusalem, Israel. Fax number: 972-2-5617723 WWW: http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~ephraim E-mail: ephraim(a)cse.huji.ac.il

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Re: [Mailman-Users] config.pck get changed back from correct values...
by john espiro Jan. 29, 2009

Jan. 29, 2009

Hi Mark - My apologies for the direct reply. I didn't see that Yahoo stripped out the correct reply to address. Thanks for this: There is something wrong in your installation. Either the CGI wrappers (the files in Mailman's cgi-bin directory) are not group mailman and SETGID, or your web server/OS is not honoring the SETGID bit and setting the effective group of the CGI process to mailman. so... 1.) How do I tell if the CGI wrappers are SETID? To get everything to work properly, the files need to be set as webadmin:mailman. or, how do I tell #2 (webserver/OS not honoring SETGID)? I am running APache, if that helps. Thanks...

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mailman with postfix and virtual mailbox domains
by Gerd Moritz Jan. 28, 2009

Jan. 28, 2009

Hello, I have a postfix server running which can handle mail for 3 domains via "virtual mailbox domains". Now I want to use mailman to offer mailinglists for those 3 domains. I read the documentation and found http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/postfix-virtual.html but this seems only be relevant for "virtual alias domains" which is not what I am using. How is mailman/posfix supposed to be configured for usage with "virtual mailbox domains" ? Thanks a lot and greetings, Gerd Moritz

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Email Forwarding Service
by Jeff Bernier Jan. 28, 2009

Jan. 28, 2009

Does anyone know what would be a good solution for an email forwarding service? Either hosted or something we could deploy in-house. Something that would simply forward messages sent to mailboxuser(a)risd.edu on to an address of mailboxusers choice. Something that would be self-service? Any ideas are welcome. Regards, Jeff

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Linux Preferred?
by b19141＠anl.gov Jan. 28, 2009

Jan. 28, 2009

The esteemed Brad Knowles has said: >> >> on 1/27/09 9:07 AM, Tim Ferguson said: >> >> > Is there a preferred flavor of Linux that Mailman seems to work and >> > install the best with? I'm trying Ubuntu, but the apt-get feature is >> > getting hung up on trying to find the repositories and can't, so, >> > until I get that fixed I just thought I'd ask. >> >> If you're installing from our source, then most any recent version of >> Linux should work fine. If you're installing from someone else's binary >> packages, then you are dependent on the person doing the packaging -- >> they have to keep up with our releases, back-port patches, etc.... >> >> >> On python.org, where we host all the official mailman-* mailing lists, >> Debian works just fine. But we run the version from our own source, and >> not the binary packaged version. and Hank van Cleef <vancleef(a)lostwells.net> replied: >I have to put in another "plug" for building Mailman from sources vs. >doing a prepackaged install built by somebody else. I have just >built and installed Mailman 2.1.11 and 2.1.12rc1 on Solaris 10 >following the installation guide at > >http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/index.html > >If you've got an appropriate Python installed and have a compiler on >the build machine, actually configuring, building, and installing the >Mailman application is the easiest part of the job. The remainder are >very straightforward systems administration tasks to get the mailman >account set up properly and get correct permissions on everything. > >We also built Mailman 2.1.9 on a Debian machine a couple of years ago. >Another guy did the work and had problems because he did not follow >the Installation Guide completely. I was asked to audit and correct >things, which involved no more than correcting group name and >permissions as outlined in the Installation Guide. > >I have always been an advocate for building from source rather than >using prepackaged as the default choice for add-on programs. Only >when I trust a pre-built package (as with the sendmail and bind in the >Solaris distribution) do I use a prepackaged version. One of the requirements from my management when I installed Mailman on Ubuntu was that all installs had to be done via packages. That is why I built the Mailman 2.1.9 and 2.1.11 packages. For other software - for example, Postfix, Apache2, Python - I could live with the Ubuntu-supplied packages. Until there is a major problem with something in the package that it takes the Ubuntu support staff too long to fix (which may never happen). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone: +1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 222, Room D209 Internet: BSFinkel(a)anl.gov Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994

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Retaining HTML in archives
by David Lubkin Jan. 28, 2009

Jan. 28, 2009

It was easy enough to tweak settings so that messages sent in HTML are distributed to a list as HTML, including embedded images. But I'm not clear, after googling around the Mailman-Users archives and checking the FAQs, how to have the same effect when a list's archives are browsed. Where a multi-part message has both text and HTML, I want the HTML displayed when archives are browsed. When there's an embedded image, I want an <img> tag whose linktext points into the attachments directory. -- David Lubkin.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] non-subscriber managed to post to a subscriber only list
by b19141＠anl.gov Jan. 28, 2009

Jan. 28, 2009

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 01:51:48PM -0600, Barry Finkel wrote: >> I was surprised to learn last week that RFC 2822 has been made >> obsolete by RFC 5322, and 2821 by 5321. I think that the major >> changes wre to clear up sections where there were differences of >> interpretation. and Adam McGreggor <adam-mailman(a)amyl.org.uk> replied: >I saw the update/obsoletion via http://twitter.com/rfc I was a subscriber to the DRUMS mailing list when that group was revising RFCs 821 and 822 to produce 2821 and 2822. I do not remember having unsubscribed from that list, but I have seen no activity on that list after 2821 and 2822 were issued. So, revisions to those two RFCs caught me by surprise. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone: +1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 222, Room D209 Internet: BSFinkel(a)anl.gov Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994

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