Mailman 3 April 2010 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with inappropriate breaks in messages
by Mark Sapiro 20 Apr '10

20 Apr '10

Chris Malme wrote: > >That is correct, I did it manually (or rather, with a quick script I wrote), >preceding each message text line that begins with a "From " with a ">". This >enabled the mbox to be imported into the Mailman Archive without splitting >messages as it did when I first tried it. However, those "From " lines that >I manually escaped are showing clearly in the Archive *with* the escape >character - i.e. as ">From". That is the normal way of dealing with messages containing From_ in the message body. It's not just Mailman or pipermail, and it's problematic to unescape them for display, because while the escaping is normal, there is no standard for escaping/unescaping so when you see >From_ in a message, you don't know if it is an escaped From_, a quoted From_ or a literal >From_. >Furthermore any new emails to the list that >have a newline/From in the message text are archiving incorrectly. > >> So the question is why is this happening with new messages? Again, what >> Mailman version is this? > >Sorry, I should have stated earlier. This is Mailman version 2.1.9, which is >the version that the folk who support my VPS (using Plesk) have rolled out. The issue with unescaped From_ in the body causing archive corruption was fixed long before Mailman 2.1.9 >To go to a more recent version is not impossible, but not trivial for me (a >Linux VPS newbie), so I wanted to see if it was the solution before rolling >my sleeves up. You shouldn't need to. Mailman 2.1.9 should not have this problem. >> Also note that escaping From_ by preceding it with '>' is the accepted >> way to deal with this. Many MUAs will do it before sending the message >> and MDAs will do it too before delivering a message. It is unusual to >> be able to pass a From_ through email from end to end without it being >> escaped to >From_ somewhere between source and destination. > >That is what is puzzling me. I am able to send an email from Thunderbird >through my VPS's mail server and see it go straight into the archive >unescaped, splitting into multiple messages at every incidence of >newline/From. I can also do it from Gmail. It doesn't happen with every MUA/MTA/MDA, but for example, I just sent such a message from Tbird 3.0.3 via Exim on localhost to a mailbox on localhost, and the From_ was unescaped in Tbird's Sent folder, but it was escaped in the recipient mailbox. >I have a Test list set up that I am happy for anyone to access, if it might >shed any light on the matter. The Test list does not have the imported >archive, but it demonstrates the same behaviour regarding new messages. > >I'm happy to post the list URL if that is appropriate. I believe you, so I don't think I need to see the test list. The question is why isn't Mailman escaping the From_ when it archives and sends the message. It actually relies on the Python email library to do this, but Mailman 2.1.9 should install its own version of the email package in Mailman's pythonlib/ directory, and this should always escape From_ lines when converting an email.Message.Message object to text. Why it doesn't is the question. Also curious is that I think you said the problem occurs with "text\nFrom " in the body, but not with "text\n\nFrom ". If I understood that correctly, that is really strange. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Can variables be used in the body of an email?
by Dennis M. Gray 20 Apr '10

20 Apr '10

I understand how to use variables in the header/footer of mails but is it possible to use variables in the body of an email?

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Mailman, SPAM (Spamassassin) and Plesk
by Brian Luria 19 Apr '10

19 Apr '10

I have a dedicated server (purchased through godaddy, don't cringe) The server is running Red Hat Fedora Core 8 Control Panel is Plesk 9.2.3 Deluxe Pack I am computer savvy but limited experience with Linux, let alone a linux server. The server has a mailman installation on it. I am trying to configure SPAM protection. I have Spamassassin installed and enabled on the server What I am having difficulty with is finding documentation on interfacing with the Spamassassin installation via the Plesk control panel. There are some minor settings under SPAM filtering, however I cannot figure out where the messages would go if they are tagged as SPAM or any sort of approval que. I have VERY limited exposure to running commands off of terminal but am willing to try. Anyone with experience with this sort of setup - or other advice on how they set a similar server up to prevent SPAM - advice greatly appreciated.

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Automate request admin - moderator request(s) waiting
by Ricardo F 19 Apr '10

19 Apr '10

Hello, I receive emails every time one person send an email to the list: The name(a)name.com mailing list has 2 request(s) waiting for your consideration at: http://name.com/.... Please attend to this at your earliest convenience. This notice of pending requests, if any, will be sent out daily. An the subject: "moderator request(s) waiting" How can i accept all this emails automatically? Thanks. _________________________________________________________________ ¡Citas! ¡Ligues! ¿Salimos? ¿Cómo es tu pareja ideal? Búscala en el sitio nº1… ¡Regístrate ya! http://contactos.es.msn.com/?mtcmk=015352

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sending a newsletter in HTML code format?
by Dawn Gangi 19 Apr '10

19 Apr '10

When using mailman to send out a newsletter how does one submit the newletter in HTML code format to be mailed: do you upload the file in HTML code format from directly within mailman and if so I can't find where and how to do this?? I was told that I should send the file in HTML code format from my outlook e-mail to an administrator e-mail that we had assigned and then I go into mailman and accept it. The only problem is that if I send it form outlook in html code format how does the file get uploaded to not display the codes?? Thx, Dawn Dawn M. Gangi, M.D. jpegetoile Etoile Cosmetic Medicine Studio 6 East Main Street Mendham, NJ 07869 973-668-9106

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creating a site wide admin password
by Michael Capelle 19 Apr '10

19 Apr '10

hello i am an administrator for mailman list on a domain. is there a way to make a site wide admin password? if so, how?

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Uncaught Runner Exception
by James Kemp 18 Apr '10

18 Apr '10

I'm running mailman 2.1.13 on Ubuntu 9.10 out of the Ubuntu repositories. Mail server is postfix and I also have Apache and spamassassin on the same box, again all from the ubuntu repositories. Over the last couple of weeks I've noticed that a number of legitimate e-mails have failed to be delivered. All of these have been shunted and an error like the one repeated below is written to the error log. I've been through the mailman FAQ, the launchpad documentation and bugs for the ubuntu maintained package and googled a bit. I'm none the wiser about how to fix this problem. 2558 is the pid of the incoming runner, Apr 17 21:22:28 2010 (2558) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 104] Connection reset by peer Apr 17 21:22:28 2010 (2558) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 120, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 191, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in _dispose more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SpamAssassin.py", line 76, in process score, symbols = check_message(mlist, str(msg)) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SpamAssassin.py", line 62, in check_message res = connection.check(spamd.SYMBOLS, message) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/spamd.py", line 122, in check response = fp.readline() File "/usr/lib/python2.6/socket.py", line 406, in readline data = self._sock.recv(self._rbufsize) error: [Errno 104] Connection reset by peer Apr 17 21:22:28 2010 (2558) SHUNTING: 1271535747.4608049+d7d9c4e9e3ba323d632e260659b522bcbd48eacd -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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Digests not getting sent
by Kevin McCann 17 Apr '10

17 Apr '10

Hello, I recently upgraded to the latest 2.X release of Mailman. Ever since, my digest users have not been receiving their emails. Can't see anything in the Mailman logfiles that indicates a problem. Is there a command to try to manually send the digest, and if I can do so, where might I watch for issues? It has been a long time since I've done any Mailman admin stuff. Thanks, Kevin

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virtual domain list disclosure and list email link issue
by Dennison Williams 16 Apr '10

16 Apr '10

Hello all!, I spent most of the day wrestling mailman and postfix into a multi site installation and now I have it working, except there are a few issues I am still trying to work out. The first is that even though I have "VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = Yes" in my Mailman/mm_cfg.py file I am still able to disclose other lists on other domains through the url: http://<virtual_domain>/mailman/listinfo/<list_name_not_in_virtual_domain>. There must be a another way around this, if not it should be considered a minor security flaw. Can anyone point me in the right direction for preventing this? The second issue is that all emails from the list are coming with links from the wrong domain. How can I get these links to reflect the domain that the lists are for? Thanks in advance. -Dennis

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving lists
by Mark Sapiro 16 Apr '10

16 Apr '10

Geoff Shang wrote: > >See attached. > >I've not yet tried the procedure, so hopefully you'll have looked at it if >I run into trouble. Either way I'll give you a blow-by-blow account of >how it goes. I have looked at the cPanel 2.1.12cp3 code and made a diff to the 2.1.12 base, and it is surprisingly small. Basically cPanel Mailman is Mailman. In particular, config.pck files are the same (there are no additional list attributes) and the file structure within the /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman PREFIX directory seems completely unchanged. As far as I can see, the only significant cPanel changes have to do with listname munging so that lists of the same name can exist in different domains, and most of this appears to be accomplished with their own list creation process and their own Exim router and transport for Mailman lists. I don't have the code for either of these, but it is easy to see how they work. Basically, when cPanel creates a list named listname in the example.com domain, it actually creates a Mailman list named listname_example.com in the example.com domain. The web interface reflects this in that every web URL is of the form http://example.com/mailman/XXX/listname_example.com. Other than that, the web interface is completely standard. Also, with the exception of a minor mod to newlist, and the addition of a --noarchives option to check_perms, the bin/ commands are unchanged and should all work provided the listname_example.com form of the listname is used. The only really significant changes to Mailman itself are mods to the getListAddress() and HasExplicitDest() list methods to account for the fact that the email addresses exposed and used for the listname_example.com list are listname(a)example.com, etc. rather than listname_example.com(a)example.com. A similar mod is missing from the CalcRecips handler which is why sibling lists have do be defined using the listname_example.com(a)example.com address form and work only in a limited way because addresses in To: or Cc: are not of that form. The above, together with some Exim stuff so that mail to the listname(a)example.com, etc. addresses is delivered to the listname_example.com list is apparently all there is. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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