Mailman 3 April 2011 - Mailman-Users

Mailman admin question
by Ognen Duzlevski 22 Apr '11

22 Apr '11

Hello, I have not played much with mailman but I am curious about something. I inherited a machine that runs mailman and one of the lists is setup through postfix aliases to do the following: blah-subscribe /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe blah blah-join /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join blah How do I find out what "mailman join blah" resolves to? I guess my question is ultimately - where do I look to find out who gets the join and subscribe requests? For fun I subscribed to the "blah" list and never received a reply. I looked at the mail logs on the same machine and found an entry along the lines of: Apr 19 20:19:07 (242320 blah: pending <name> <email> <ip> There are a bunch of lines below mentioning other users subscribing to the same list and their requests being approved. I realize each machine can be set up differently to process mail but ultimately I am curious as to what mailman join <list name> actually does. Thanks! OD

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Upgrading and converting mailman to postfix
by Steven Jones 21 Apr '11

21 Apr '11

Hi, I have to upgrade a old mailman setup on RHEl3 and sendmail to RHEL6 which comes with postfix by default... So, a) Docs or how easy is it to straight migrate from RHEL3 (2.1.5) to RHEL6 (2.1.12) ? b) How easy is it to convert a sendmail setup with /etc/aliases to postfix? any automated scripts? regards Steven

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How to change WebUI port to 443?
by Jian Gao 20 Apr '11

20 Apr '11

Hi, I have a mailman setup. Now I want the manage UI listen on port 443(HTTPS) instead of port 80. How to config this? my server version: Apache 2.2.3 Thanks. -- *Jian *

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Exporting List From Mailman
by Larry Hicok 18 Apr '11

18 Apr '11

I am nowhere near the level of understanding of most of the people on this list. I simply use Mailman to email members from my host website. The mailman files are contained on the hosting site, and I don't appear to have access to them. How can I export the list and save it locally? Larry

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Mailman integration with Google Groups: allow Groups Subscribers post directly
by anatoly techtonik 17 Apr '11

17 Apr '11

Hi, I find it convenient to have a Google Groups interface for Mailman lists. This adds search, thread monitoring at no cost, and makes communication for people who don't like email a lot easier (look at PySide list as an example). There is one problem though: - if a mirrored list requires subscription, you need to subscribe both to mailing list and to groups - This takes a lot of fun out of using Groups, but the worst thing that your message may be delivered and will be available in Groups and not in Mailman. So, my question is: - how can I setup Mailman, so it can accept mails sent through Google Groups proxy automatically? - Please, CC. Thanks. - anatoly t.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Disallow digest, but getting warning
by Ralf Hildebrandt 15 Apr '11

15 Apr '11

* Ralf Hildebrandt <Ralf.Hildebrandt(a)charite.de>: > > Warning: You have digest members, but digests are turned off. Those > > people will not receive mail. > > > > > But WHICH members? > > I patched mailman to emit that info. > m( --- /usr/src/mailman-2.1.14/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py 2010-12-02 08:41:27.000000000 +0100 +++ /usr/src/mailman-2.1.14/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py 2011-04-14 13:34:53.533844622 +0200 @@ -189,11 +189,15 @@ _('''You have digest members, but digests are turned off. Those people will not receive mail.'''), tag=_('Warning: ')) + doc.addError(mlist.getDigestMemberKeys(), + tag=_('Warning: ')) if not mlist.nondigestable and mlist.getRegularMemberKeys(): doc.addError( _('''You have regular list members but non-digestified mail is turned off. They will receive non-digestified mail until you fix this problem.'''), tag=_('Warning: ')) + doc.addError(mlist.getRegularMemberKeys(), + tag=_('Warning: ')) # Glom up the results page and print it out show_results(mlist, doc, category, subcat, cgidata) print doc.Format() -- Ralf Hildebrandt Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netzwerk Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin Campus Benjamin Franklin Hindenburgdamm 30 | D-12203 Berlin Tel. +49 30 450 570 155 | Fax: +49 30 450 570 962 ralf.hildebrandt(a)charite.de | http://www.charite.de

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TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'NoneType' objects
by Jesus Cea 15 Apr '11

15 Apr '11

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi. This is a recurrent issue. This morning I received this: """ Your "cron" job on stargate /usr/local/bin/python2.5 -S /home/mailman/cron/disabled produced the following output: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/mailman/cron/disabled", line 224, in <module> main() File "/home/mailman/cron/disabled", line 208, in main mlist.sendNextNotification(member) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Bouncer.py", line 280, in sendNextNotification msg['Subject'] = 'confirm ' + info.cookie TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'NoneType' objects """ The problem is, the particular user is marked as "disabled delivery", but its bounce information is not the responsible for that: """ >>> m.getDeliveryStatus("X") 4 >>> m.bounce_info["X"] <bounce info for member X current score: 1.0 last bounce date: (2011, 4, 13) email notices left: 7 last notice date: (1970, 1, 2) confirmation cookie: None > """ So the delivery is disabled because "bounce", but the bounce score is too low for it (my threshold is 5.0). When the "cron" executes "disabled" to send out the reminders, it tries to send to this user, but the process fails because the user is marked as "bounce" but no confirmation cookie is available. So, the process dies. No more notifications mails are send. PANIC! :). I think I can solve this particular case, for a while, doing "m.setDeliveryStatus("X", 0)". But I will wait a couple of days, just in case you want me to do any kind of test. Checking the logs, I see this: (email and listname not shown) """ bounce:Apr 13 09:17:59 2011 (1567) list: X bounce score: 1.0 bounce:Apr 13 13:56:29 2011 (5194) list: X already scored a bounce for date 13-Apr-2011 bounce:Apr 14 09:00:03 2011 (24248) Notifying disabled member X for list: list bounce:Apr 14 12:05:16 2011 (12355) Notifying disabled member X for list: list bounce:Apr 14 12:06:21 2011 (12546) Notifying disabled member X for list: list bounce:Apr 14 12:17:09 2011 (14017) list: X residual bounce received bounce:Apr 14 13:31:00 2011 (20518) Notifying disabled member X for list: list bounce:Apr 14 13:31:15 2011 (20554) Notifying disabled member X for list: list """ So here we have mailman getting a bounce for the address yesterday, and the original "notification" try and my subsequent tests, today. Hipotesis: The user set "disable delivery" but we have some bounces coming back, so the "disable delivery" sets by user is mutated incorrectly to "user bouncing", causing this problem. Some more data: """ >>> m.getDeliveryStatusChangeTime("X") 1302776230.914567 >>> import time >>> time.ctime(1302776230.914567) 'Thu Apr 14 12:17:10 2011' >>> m.getDeliveryStatus("X") 4 """ The change date, is consistent with this line on my log: """ bounce:Apr 14 12:17:09 2011 (14017) list: X residual bounce received """ This happens from time to time, and it is really painful, since others users are not getting their reminders, or they are getting them too late and their token has already expired. I will keep this state for a couple of days, just in case you need some more info. Then, I will clean it up. But this is a recurrent issue, happens from time to time. Thanks for your help! PS: I am using Mailman 2.1.12 with Python 2.5. - -- Jesus Cea Avion _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ jcea(a)jcea.es - http://www.jcea.es/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ jabber / xmpp:jcea@jabber.org _/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ . _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "Things are not so easy" _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "My name is Dump, Core Dump" _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "El amor es poner tu felicidad en la felicidad de otro" - Leibniz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQCVAwUBTabjLZlgi5GaxT1NAQJvDwQAk4evdz+3o5rvQ1s0arcPr86vXqdKH4Kp uqKddRK2GPE8sgjZN704VTUKlDe2BvbftsCTJXIEo2UOvDVy3w95zftYckRVL5f5 Fg0UxPlwG2GjElJLalMKnJyiQ10VGYb6ke+DeXY4EYOYdlzMt0tGvidjjI+obCJv BuwS0God1O0= =OCjv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Problem with bounce_matching_headers
by Barry Finkel 15 Apr '11

15 Apr '11

I am running 2.1.14, and we had a problem where a list owner subscribed a number of persons to a list, and many of these persons want to be unsubscribed. To catch mail directed toward the list: Subject: Please remove me from your list I added a line to bounce_matching_headers Subject: .remove. (I placed it at the end of the Mailman-supplied lines), and the next mail with that subject line was sent to the list moderators. Another mail message arrived: Subject: Again... Please remove me from this list but this one was not diverted to the moderators. What is wrong with my bounce_matching_headers line? Thanks. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone: +1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 240, Room 5.B.8 Internet: BSFinkel(a)anl.gov Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994

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-owner and -request not working on new host
by Nina Nicholson 14 Apr '11

14 Apr '11

I recently moved my site from a host that provided Mailman 2.1.5 and Plesk 8.1 to one that provides Mailman 2.1.9 and Plesk 10.1.1. I manually created 55 lists on the new host through Plesk, and populated them in the Mailman admin. All of them have the same two emails in the -owner field, which were also the same ones used for the old lists on the old host. My problem is that emails sent to both the -owner and -request addresses bounce back with the message that that address doesn't exist. Interestingly I tried to manually created -owner and -request addresses for one of the lists (news(a)domain.org) via Plesk, and was prevented with the message that news-owner(a)domain.org and news-request(a)domain.org were already in use. So Plesk thinks they exist -- but trying to send anything to them fails. I am not a Linux guru. How do I go about debugging this?

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Disallow digest, but getting warning
by Ralf Hildebrandt 14 Apr '11

14 Apr '11

I disallowed my users to get their list-emails (for one list) as a digest. As far as I can see, I removed the "digest" tickmark for all memeber, yet mailman is reporting: Achtung: Sie haben Mitglieder, die Nachrichtensammlungen (digests) bekommen wollen, aber der Sammlungs-Modus ist von Ihnen deaktiviert. Diese Mitglieder bekommen deswegen gar keine Nachrichten! Basically: "Some mebers want digests, you disbaled it, so they're not getting anything". But WHICH members? -- Ralf Hildebrandt Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netzwerk Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin Campus Benjamin Franklin Hindenburgdamm 30 | D-12203 Berlin Tel. +49 30 450 570 155 | Fax: +49 30 450 570 962 ralf.hildebrandt(a)charite.de | http://www.charite.de

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