Mailman 3 May 2011 - Mailman-Users

Mailman keeps forward mail to Unsubscribed member
by javadev3 27 May '11

27 May '11

I unsubscribed a user from a list because the destination mailbox for that user was full. Yet everytime a message is posted to that list, I get a bounce notification informing that the address had delivery problems. I've looked again at the membership list to make sure the member is not on the list and have no idea why list emails keep being forwarded to that address. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Mailman-keeps-forward-mail-to-Unsubscribed-member-tp3… Sent from the Mailman - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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migrating lists off an old RHEl3 server to RHEL6.1
by Steven Jones 27 May '11

27 May '11

Hi, Can I just move the aliases file and the various lists directories and archive off the old server and more them to the correct place on the new server restart mailman and it will work? Or is there other work to do regards steven

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Digests and multipart/alternative
by Steve Foster 27 May '11

27 May '11

Hi Folks, We have a slight oddity where we have list admins who re-send/forward announcements and news email to lists... the problem appears to be when the source email is encoded base64, the digest and archive emails are not readable see below The sender is using MS Outlook, so if there any quirks there please advise. Cheers Steve ________________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: esslnet-bounces(a)lists.leeds.ac.uk [mailto:esslnet-bounces@lists.leeds.ac.uk] On Behalf Of esslnet -request(a)lists.leeds.ac.uk Sent: 11 March 2011 15:25 To: esslnet(a)lists.leeds.ac.uk Subject: Esslnet Digest, Vol 345, Issue 16 Send Esslnet mailing list submissions to esslnet(a)lists.leeds.ac.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.leeds.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/esslnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to esslnet-request(a)lists.leeds.ac.uk You can reach the person managing the list at esslnet-owner(a)lists.leeds.ac.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Esslnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. ESRC eNews March 2011 (Annette Caplan) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:24:34 +0000 From: Annette Caplan <a.c.caplan(a)adm.leeds.ac.uk> To: "'esslnet(a)lists.leeds.ac.uk'" <esslnet(a)lists.leeds.ac.uk> Subject: [Esslnet] ESRC eNews March 2011 Message-ID: <1982471554F6EC44B684F9CBFFA539C003CD6E7B39E0(a)HERMES10.admin.ds.leeds.ac.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_1982471554F6EC44B684F9CBFFA539C003CD6E7B39E0HERMES10adm_" --_000_1982471554F6EC44B684F9CBFFA539C003CD6E7B39E0HERMES10adm_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 DQoNCltodHRwOi8vd3d3LmVtYWlsLWxvZ2l4LmNvLnVrL2FkbWluL3RlbXAvbmV3c2xldHRlcnMv MTk5MC9lbmV3cy1iYW5uZXItaW1nLmpwZ10NCg0KW2h0dHA6Ly93d3cuZW1haWwtbG9naXguY28u dWsvYWRtaW4vdGVtcC9uZXdzbGV0dGVycy8xOTkwL2VuZXdzJTIwYmFubmVyJTIwdHh0LmpwZ10N Cg0KV29ya2luZyB0b2dldGhlciAtIHdlIHdhbnQgeW91ciB2aWV3czxodHRwOi8vd3d3LmVtYWls -- Steve Foster Email: s.p.foster(a)leeds.ac.uk Unix team Phone: 0113 343 7225 Information Systems Services Fax: 0113 343 5411 University of Leeds Leeds LS2 9JT

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Automating Mailman Archive Maintenance
by C Nulk 24 May '11

24 May '11

Hello, I am in the process of trying to automate our Mailman Archive maintenance before it gets unruly. I looked in the FAQ and wiki for information and found some about rebuilding the archives (which will be handy) but nothing about automating it. The assumptions I am working under: 1. the html files for the archives are located in <some prefix>/<listname> (to be called DIR-A) 2. the directory the mbox file to rebuild the archive html files are in <some prefix>/<listname>.mbox (to be called DIR-B) 3. our automated process will process the mbox files in DIR-B and delete completely or mark for deletion any messages older than a given timeframe. Now, the questions: 1. If I run bin/arch --wipe <listname> to rebuild the archives for <listname>, do I have to delete the files in DIR-A first or will bin/arch do it? 2. When a message is added to the mbox file in DIR-B, is it appended to the file or does it get added through some interface? 3. When a message is added to the mbox file in DIR-B, are any existing messages that are marked for deletion removed or is the message just added to the mbox file? 4. When bin/arch is run and builds the html files, does it ignore messages marked for deletion or does it add the message to the html files no matter how it is marked? 5. Should Mailman be shutdown prior to running my automated process, which includes running bin/arch, or can I leave Mailman running? 6. In our installation, the public archives directory for each list is a link to the private archives directory for each list, is that the standard or should I be prepared to see some archives in the public area and other in the private depending on the particular list's setting? 7. Is there any other gotcha I should watch out for when using an automated process? Thanks in advance, Chris

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Detecting mail with multiple From: lines
by Jay A. Sekora 24 May '11

24 May '11

Hi. I had been noting with trepidation the recent rise in spam mail with multiple spoofed From: lines, e.g., From: me(a)example.net From: you(a)example.net From: list(a)example.net To: list(a)example.net since that drastically increases the chances of any given spam message having a spoofed From: line that matches a list member. Recently, one of our lists (running Mailman 2.1.11 from Debian packages) actually got hit with a bunch of spam like that. That particular list actually had (the equivalent of) "list(a)example.net", among other addresses, in discard_these_nonmembers, but that didn't actually have any effect. (None of the spoofed from addresses were in accept_these_nonmembers .) So I am guessing that when it gets mail with multiple From: addresses (or maybe just with multiple From: headers on separate lines), Mailman is doing some sort of header canonicalization that breaks discard_these_nonmembers. (I will note that the list address was listed as a string, not a regex.) So my question is twofold: (1) Is there a way, within Mailman 2.1.11 itself, I can test whether a message has multiple *senders*, and hold for moderation or discard based on that? (I'd be happy either catching anything with multiple From: lines, or if all the possible places Mailman looks for a sender are conflated, anything with more than two or three different senders.) And, (2) Is there a way I can make discard_these_nonmembers and/or hold_these_nonmembers work with from addresses in these sorts of messages? (Maybe Mailman concatenates all the sender addresses and I therefore need to use a regular expression, for instance?) Thanks in advance! Jay PS -- In case its relevant, all our list mail is forwarded via aliases from the published address to an address handled by the Mailman server, so doing stuff at SMTP time is more complicated than it would otherwise be. I wouldn't mind advice for dealing with this stuff in Exim as well, if anybody happens to have some handy, but we *do* have (a small amount of) legitimate mail that has multiple From: headers. I know how to score this stuff higher in SpamAssassin, but given various peculiarities I'd really like to know how to do it in Mailman as well.

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Real Names on Roster
by Brian Carpenter 24 May '11

24 May '11

Hello Mailman Community: What change do I need to make to mailman's configuration to allow real names to show up on any lists' roster? I did some searching around and did not find an answer. I did read one post that stated that some sort of configuration setup that allows for this would be implemented in 2.2. Thank you for your assistance. -- -- Brian Carpenter Owner | EMWD& dotList brian(a)emwd.com | http://www.emwd.com | http://www.mailmanhost.com

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Postfix & Mailman not playing well together
by Michael Soh 23 May '11

23 May '11

Good morning all! I'm hoping you guys might be able to help me figure out what's going on with my mailman setup. I'm running 2.1.13 on a Ubuntu 10 installation. I'm running postfix as my MTA. I've set up postfix as instructed on the list.org documentation. I'm running into a problem that I can't seem to get my head around. When I e-mail the list, I get a bounce with the following information: This is the mail system at host hotdog.mikesoh.com. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The mail system <"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/ mailman post somelist"@mikesoh.com> (expanded from <somelist(a)lists.mikesoh.com <epicfail(a)lists.mikesoh.com>>): User unknown in virtual alias table Final-Recipient: rfc822; "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post somelist"@ mikesoh.com Original-Recipient: rfc822;somelist(a)lists.mikesoh.com<rfc822%3Bepicfail(a)lists.mikesoh.com> Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; User unknown in virtual alias table The weird part is the command that I've highlighted in green. For some reason, postfix or mailman (I haven't been able to determine which one) is appending "@mikesoh.com" to the command. When I run the command exactly within a terminal, it says no such list exists. However, if I only run the command within the quotes, it runs correctly. I can't seem to figure out why this is. I've posted my postfix config on a pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/610641/ Can anyone offer me a clue? Thanks! Mike

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix & Mailman not playing well together
by Michael Soh 23 May '11

23 May '11

On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > This is documented in Defaults.py in the paragraphs immediately > preceding the definitions of DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST. > I was just following the directions on the website, specifically: http://www.list.org/mailman-install/postfix-virtual.html > >add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) > > > >I'm assuming then I'll have to add the following lines: > >add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, 'mikesoh.com') > >add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, 'linuslive.com') > > > No. The url hosts in add_virtualhost directives must be unique. > Otherwise each just replaces the prior one. > > If you aren't going to create lists via the web and are going to create > all lists via bin/newlist with the same (default) url host and the -e > option for specifying email host (or setting the email host via the > list's host_name in the web admin GUI). You don't need add_virtualhost > directives. > This is what I would like to do. I'm a command-line person myself. And since I'd have to run postfix reload after creating the aliases anyway, it makes more sense for me to run it via command-line. > If you have multiple web domains and want to keep them separate, you > need add_virtualhost('web_host_for_this_email_domain', 'email_domain') > for each domain. > I didn't put in add_virtualhost() in the Defaults.py or mm_cfg.py and still having mail bouncing saying that the alias couldn't be found. If worse comes to worse, I can just host all of my mailman lists on the lists.mikesoh.com subdomain but would like to be able to use all of my domains to create mailing lists.

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removing a lot of members with incorrect address
by Marc Rengers 23 May '11

23 May '11

Hi, I've got a list where an other admin has subcribed a lot of members with a dash on the end of the address. Like name(a)domain.nl- and user(a)other.com- If it were a few I would unsubscribe them manually, but there are around 150.... Is there a way to create a ilst of these wrong addresses and then easily unsubscribe these? Thanks, Marc

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Editing MM-List-Subscription-Msg
by Mike Starr 23 May '11

23 May '11

Hello, I recently had someone outside our group visit the group's Mailman page and subscribe to the list. I corrected the setting so that it now requires administrator approval for someone to join the list. Cool... no problem. However, the text on the Mailman page doesn't make it clear how we limit who we will allow as a member of our list. I thought, okay... I'll just edit the appropriate text via the *General Options* section. Uh oh... it's not there. Okay, so I'll go to the *Members -- HTML Page Editing* page and take care of it. So I click on the *General list information page* and find that the specific bit of text I want to edit appears to be sourced from the *<MM-List-Subscription-Msg>* variable. All I can find in the Wiki and other documentation on that particular variable is a definition. I had really hoped this would be something I could modify from the *General Options* section but no joy. So now I'm apparently going to have to figure out how to edit code on the server somewhere. Can someone point me to what I have to do to edit this particular variable? I've got the sneaking suspicion that this stuff is not going to be easy to gain access to on the hosting company's server. Is this something I can somehow request as a feature enhancement to the *General Options* section? And if so, what's the process for that? Thanks, Mike -- Mike Starr WriteStarr Information Services Technical Writer - Online Help Developer - Technical Illustrator Graphic Designer - Desktop Publisher - MS Office Expert (262) 694-1028 - mike(a)writestarr.com - http://www.writestarr.com

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