Mailman 3 November 2012 - Mailman-Users

sitemap.xml for Mailman
by Tomasz Chmielewski 25 Nov '12

25 Nov '12

Hi, I wrote a simple bash script which generates a sitemap.xml file (i.e. to be submitted to Google): http://blog.wpkg.org/2012/11/21/sitemap-xml-for-mailman/ My rationale was: why the heck is my archive lacking so many posts in google, and is generally "behind" all other archives. -- Tomasz Chmielewski

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NNTP Mass catch up
by thufir 19 Nov '12

19 Nov '12

In the Mail<->News gateways Section for my "alpha" list I clicked the box for a mass catchup. The news server is the same machine, so I entered localhost. (I'm running leafnode.) I do see NNTP in the cron script for mailman, so I uncommented that: root@dur:~# root@dur:~# cat /etc/cron.d/mailman | grep gate_news */5 * * * * list [ -x /usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news ] && /usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news root@dur:~# How do I know the results of the mass catch up? It seems to have worked: root@dur:~# root@dur:~# nl /var/log/mailman/fromusenet 1 Nov 19 09:40:02 2012 (3035) alpha: [2..8718] 2 Nov 19 09:40:02 2012 (3035) alpha caught up to article 8718 3 Nov 19 09:40:02 2012 (3035) alpha watermark: 8718 root@dur:~# only I don't see any such articles actually in the list. Mails to the list (it's only me subscribed) seem to work fine. root@dur:~# root@dur:~# nl /var/log/mailman/post 1 Nov 19 01:30:04 2012 (13366) post to alpha from alpha-request(a)dur.bounceme.net, size=1646, message-id=<mailman.0.1353317401.13682.alpha(a)dur.bounceme.net>, 1 failures 2 Nov 19 02:13:29 2012 (13366) post to alpha from thufir(a)dur.bounceme.net, size=1499, message-id=<1353320001.13556.0@dur>, success 3 Nov 19 02:24:18 2012 (13366) post to alpha from thufir(a)dur.bounceme.net, size=1850, message-id=<1353320657.13556.2@dur>, success 4 Nov 19 09:31:54 2012 (1413) post to alpha from thufir(a)dur.bounceme.net, size=1523, message-id=<1353346312.2541.0@dur>, success root@dur:~# and come through fine. I can read and post to the list, but the archives are empty and the NNTP messages are in limbo. thanks, Thufir

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monthly archive
by Thufir 19 Nov '12

19 Nov '12

When I visit the archive for my first list, alpha, it says: No messages have been posted to this list yet, so the archives are currently empty. You can get more information about this list. However, I subscribed thufir(a)dur.bounceme.com, receive the e-mail locally, clicked the link, sent a first post, received a copy to thufir(a)dur.bounceme.net. The list itself seems to work fine. I've reviewed the list settings through the web UI and it says to archive monthly. Do I need to wait a month before that first post shows in the archive? Also, where are the settings for a list stored? I browse to something like: http://dur.bounceme.net/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/alpha/?VARHELP=archive/archiv… but I'm not sure where the config file for that setting for this mailing list actually resides. Do I need to "run" mailman to create the archive? Can I directly access the archive files and list config files without the web UI? thanks, Thufir

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what is a virtual domain?
by Thufir 19 Nov '12

19 Nov '12

How does a virtual domain differ from a domain? 6.1.2 Virtual domains Note: This section describes how to integrate Mailman with Postfix for automatic generation of Postfix virtual_alias_maps for Mailman list addresses. Mailman's support of virtual domains is limited in that list names must be globally unique within a single Mailman instance, i.e., two lists may not have the same name even if they are in different domains. http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/postfix-virtual.html What I'm looking to do is to use postfix "vanity domains". A vanity domain is the same thing as a virtual domain? These are syntactically valid domains: "Postfix on hosts without a real Internet hostname This section is for hosts that don't have their own Internet hostname. Typically these are systems that get a dynamic IP address via DHCP or via dialup. " http://www.postfix.org/SOHO_README.html#fantasy Such as those available for free from no-ip.com? On no-ip.com it's just called a host, and you can add hosts from a drop down of domains which no-ip.com owns. I would call it a sub-domain. The lingo is throwing me a bit. In this event, just enter the FQDN from no-ip.com into mailman and let postfix handle the rest? thanks, Thufir

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Different "output" between web interface and command line tool
by Sriram Karra 15 Nov '12

15 Nov '12

I have a test installation of Mailman on a machine and created a list (called mas) that I have marked Yes for "Advertise this list when people ask what lists are on this machine?" I can see the Yes option when I view the listinfo as /mailman/listinfo/mas. However when this list is not listed on /mailman/listinfo where I get a message saying there are no publicly visible lists on this server. However running bin/list_lists -a does list mas as one of the advertised lists. No errors are logged in mailman/logs/error. Can someone help me understand what is going on? Regards, Sriram

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Download pipermail archives, convert to mbox file (script)
by John Magolske 14 Nov '12

14 Nov '12

Hi, Sometimes before subscribing to a list I like to download the archives and convert them into an mbox file for nice threaded browsing & searching using familiar tools (for me, Mutt and mairix). Not finding an automated way to do this [1], I put together the following shell script. Simple & rough, but seems to do the job: #!/bin/sh # automated retrieval of pipermail archives & conversion to mbox file # Last edit: 2012/10/09 Tue 23:16 PDT listname=$(echo "$1" | sed 's:^$http.*$/$[^/]*$/$:\2:') cd /tmp wget -r -l 1 -nH -A *.txt.gz "$1" touch /tmp/pipermail/$listname/$listname.mbox chmod 600 /tmp/pipermail/$listname/$listname.mbox cd /tmp/pipermail/$listname for f in $(ls |sort) do zcat $f | iconv -f iso8859-15 -t utf-8 | sed 's/$^From.*$\ at\ /\1@/' >> "$listname.mbox" done rm /tmp/pipermail/$listname/*.gz mutt -f /tmp/pipermail/$listname/$listname.mbox I call this script piperget, and by doing: piperget http://example.tld/pipermail/somelistname/ the file /tmp/pipermail/somelistname.mbox is created and opened by mutt. If I like what I see, I move the mbox file to an appropriate location in my Mail directory, subscribe to the list, and filter the list traffic into that mbox. This could be made more robust and tweaked to better suit varying needs. Being able to specify a range of archive dates would be nice. Another thought is to have the option of leaving the last few *.txt.gz files laying around (somewhere other than in /tmp), checking against them to only wget new archives or an archive with a newer time-stamp, then concatenating newer messages onto the existing mbox. A sort of a pseudo-subscription to a list. Repeatedly re-downloading an entire monthly/quarterly archive as it changes would be rather bandwidth-wasteful though, better to subscribe and update the *.mbox via SMTP. Not sure if there's some rsync way to incrementally download only the parts of an archive that've changed... Anyhow, mostly I just use this to catch up on a list at the moment of deciding whether or not to subscribe to it. Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome. [1] After writing this script I did find: https://github.com/wesleyd/pipermail-archive-to-maildir Which could be another option for those interested in the maildir format. I prefer mbox for mailing lists. John -- John Magolske http://B79.net/contact

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mass edit on a mailing list
by Lucio Chiappetti 14 Nov '12

14 Nov '12

Let us assume that a substantial fraction of members of a nationwide mailing list (say about 110 on 1135) have changed domain, i.e. user(a)domain1.tld and user(a)domain2.tld have now migrated to user(a)domain2.tld Is there a way by which the *moderators* (which are sparse in different institutions and have access to the mailing list only via the web interface) can apply a mass edit (changing domain1 and domain2 into domain3) ? Or can that be done via line-mode commands only by the *administrator* (who has the list server in house) ? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Italian Research STILL at risk. La Ricerca italiana TUTTORA a rischio ! see http://sax.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/WWW/Opinions/nobrain3.html cfr

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Migrate from EZMLM to Mailman
by Rick Drake 14 Nov '12

14 Nov '12

Hello, Does anyone have experience migrating from EZMLM(Qmail) to Mailman? We have several lists And all the notifications already setup and running on EZMLM. Ideally we would like to migrate All the settings to Mailman. If you can assist in this migration or recommend someone who can assist, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and if you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly at (610) 685-9700, ext 112. Thanks, Rick ****************************************** Blaise Drake & Company Phone: (610) 685-9700, ext 112 Email: rick(a)blaisedrake.com

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Non-member posting to the list
by Rodrigo Abrantes Antunes 14 Nov '12

14 Nov '12

Hi, I was configuring a server with Joomla and AcyMailing to send mass emails and then I realized that if I configure the sender address as being one of a non moderated user it could send a message to a list without the non moderated user knows. How can I avoid that? Isn't there any configuration in mailman that prevents messages with forged from headers to be posted to the list? Thanks.

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A question about IncomingRunner
by METU E-List Admin 14 Nov '12

14 Nov '12

Hello, We are using Mailman 2.1.13 from Debian repositories (which is the latest version for squeeze). We are facing late mail delivery problems and after some research, we think we managed to overcome these problems by changing some configuration options. Although Mailman seems to running fine, we have observed an issue. The issue is related with IncomingRunner. This qrunner process takes up approx. 1 GB RAM and sometimes causes high loads. We couldn't determine what causes high RAM and CPU usages. The question is; this is an expected result of Mailman process? If not, how can we determine the root cause of this problem? Thanks,

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