Mailman 3 March 2012 - Mailman-Users

Newer postfix: unused parameter: mailman_destination_recipient_limit=1
by Tanstaafl March 10, 2012

March 10, 2012

Hi all, I've had this parameter defined in my postfix ever since it was first set up (not by me), and most everything I read online says it should be there. But, the newer versions of postfix now provide warnings for unused parameters, and that is what I'm getting for this one parameter: myhost : Fri Mar 09, 13:16:12 : ~ # postconf -n | grep mailman alias_maps = hash:/etc/mail/aliases, hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases virtual_alias_maps = ${mysql}/vam.cf, hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman postconf: warning: /etc/postfix/main.cf: unused parameter: mailman_destination_recipient_limit=1 myhost : Fri Mar 09, 13:16:26 : ~ # Anyone have any idea why? Am I indeed not using it? I'd rather not just comment it out and test without some confirmation first, since this is a production box. Thanks... Charles

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Displaying the sender email
by Duane Winner March 9, 2012

March 9, 2012

Hello, Is there a way to configure Mailman lists so the From: line can say: "From listname(a)mymanserver.com [On Behalf of John.Doe(a)yahoo.com]" We are using a 3rd-party SMTP relay for all outbound mail, so we need to approve all senders for the service to allow the email to go through. This poses a problem with the dozens of mailing lists we host, since it is not practical to approve hundreds (if not thousands) of members. So what we are doing is configuring the mailman lists to "Hide the sender of a message, replacing it with the list address (Removes From, Sender and Reply-To fields) ", setting it to "Yes". So now all members of the list will see posts as: "From: listname(a)mymailmanserver.com" Instead of the address of the poster. This is actually a good thing for us, and we actually prefer this behavior to ensure that discussions will stay on the lists, but also this solves the problem of the SMTP relay service, since now we only need to approve the wildcard for "*(a)mymailmanserver.com" so the service will relay the email. The problem is that posters don't always include signatures, and we need to know who sent them, but by stripping out the original sender, unless they do include a signature in the body, members might not always be able to tell who posted to the list. Thanks in advance.

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slow "out" queue
by Anil Jangity March 9, 2012

March 9, 2012

We just moved a very old mailman infrastructure mailman to Solaris and sendmail. It seems, when a message is posted, the "out" directory doesn't seem to clear out fast enough. 1K archive 1K bounces 1K commands 1K in 1K news 403K out 1K retry 1K shunt 1K virgin The size just stays like that forever and slowly decrements. When I look in /var/log/syslog (mail log of sendmail), I see deliveries going through. I do a 'truss' of the OutgoingRunner python process and I see: % truss -p 11997 recv(10, 0x00748454, 8192, 0) (sleeping...) ... % What is it waiting for?

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iPhone App for moderating mails
by Manuel Weiel March 8, 2012

March 8, 2012

Hello, I don't know if this is appropriate, but I want to share it if someone finds it useful: I have written an app for moderating mails from your mailman lists. You can add multiple lists and get an overview of all the pending moderation requests. The app shows details about every mail like size, preview of the mail and moderation reason and you can approve/reject/discard the mail(s). iMailModerate is available on the AppStore for 0,99$. http://cl.ly/DyCl Best regards, Manuel Weiel

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Using Google Message Security with Mailman?
by Kirke Johnson March 8, 2012

March 8, 2012

We are migrating from an inhouse email system to Gmail. We use Google Message Security for our employee accounts to provide for spam and virus quarantining, traffic logging and management. Our migration is well advanced, and it is now time to route Mailman traffic through Postini while maintaining the Mailman server in-house. We have established the lists.pcc.edu org in Postini for this purpose. The question is: has anyone achieved this with Postini GMS and Mailman? What we are trying to puzzle out is the Postini configuration to establish each Mailman list as a user in the Postini org while assuring that Postini quarantine notifications, etc for each list will be sent to a different user (the list owner) rather than to the list.. Can a Postini user alias accomplish that? We have a support ticket open with Postini, but they seem unfamiliar with the Mailman end and what we need to accomplish there. Thanks for any advice from anyone who has already "been there"! Kirke Johnson Internet: kjohnson(a)pcc.edu Email Administrator, TSS , Sylvania Campus Portland Community College, Portland, OR, USA (971) 722-4368

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error while running make install
by Con Wieland March 8, 2012

March 8, 2012

I get the following error while running make install on Solaris 10 trying to install mailman-2.1.14-1 any help would be appreciated. I see other folks with the error but no solutions thanks Con Wieland #make install Creating architecture independent directories... chmod o-r /opt/nsp/mailman/archives/private Creating architecture dependent directories... for f in mmsitepass newlist rmlist add_members list_members remove_members clone_member update arch sync_members check_db withlist check_perms find_member version config_list list_lists dumpdb cleanarch list_admins genaliases change_pw mailmanctl qrunner inject unshunt fix_url.py convert.py transcheck b4b5-archfix list_owners msgfmt.py show_qfiles discard rb-archfix reset_pw.py export.py; \ do \ /opt/csw/bin/ginstall -c -m 755 ../build/bin/$f /opt/nsp/mailman/bin; \ done for f in crontab.in; \ do \ /opt/csw/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 $f /opt/nsp/mailman/cron; \ done for f in checkdbs mailpasswds senddigests gate_news nightly_gzip bumpdigests disabled cull_bad_shunt; \ do \ /opt/csw/bin/ginstall -c -m 755 ../build/cron/$f /opt/nsp/mailman/cron; \ done for i in ./*.jpg ./*.png; \ do \ /opt/csw/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 $i /opt/nsp/mailman/icons; \ done for d in bin cron scripts tests; \ do \ dir=/opt/nsp/mailman/$d; \ /opt/csw/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 paths.py $dir; \ done /opt/csw/bin/ginstall -c -m 755 mailman /opt/nsp/mailman/scripts /opt/csw/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 sitelist.cfg /opt/nsp/mailman/data if [ -z "" -a -d /opt/nsp/mailman/pythonlib/email ] ; \ then \ rm -rf /opt/nsp/mailman/pythonlib/email* ; \ fi for p in ; \ do \ gunzip -c ./$p.tar.gz | (cd . ; tar xf -); \ (cd ./$p ; umask 02 ; PYTHONPATH=/opt/nsp/mailman/pythonlib /opt/csw/bin/python setup.py --quiet install --install-lib /opt/nsp/mailman/pythonlib --install-purelib /opt/nsp/mailman/pythonlib --install-data /opt/nsp/mailman/pythonlib); \ done sh: syntax error at line 1: `;' unexpected *** Error code 2 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install-packages' Current working directory /home/users/cwieland/mailman-2.1.14-1/misc *** Error code 1 The following command caused the error: for d in bin cron misc Mailman scripts src templates messages tests; \ do \ (cd $d; make DESTDIR= install); \ done make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `doinstall'

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Fwd: Re: Unstoppable duplicate message
by Mark Sapiro March 8, 2012

March 8, 2012

Matthew Saltzman <mjs(a)clemson.edu> wrote: >I have one message sent to one list that keeps getting sent out over >and >over (every 15 minutes or so). I'm no expert in Mailman internals or >Python, so I have no idea how to stop it or how to figure out what's >gone wrong. Has anyone seen this before? Any suggested course of >action? My subscribers are going crazy. > >TIA. Set emergency On. If as I suspect some list member process is resending the message to the list, this will stop it. You can then delete the dups waiting moderation. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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confirm 04b15bd499c96706d41e23b8368d11d485dc55c0
by Mallory S Woods II March 8, 2012

March 8, 2012

Hi, I recently received this from my list. -- Your membership in the mailing list Stoneridgeinfo has been disabled due to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated 20-Feb-2012. You will not get any more messages from this list until you re-enable your membership. You will receive 1 more reminders like this before your membership in the list is deleted. To re-enable your membership, you can simply respond to this message (leaving the Subject: line intact), or visit the confirmation page at -- I have had no other problems receiving mail from anywhere else and I'm listed as the admin on this list. I'm confused as to why myself and two other admins got these notices. Thanks

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Unstoppable duplicate message
by Matthew Saltzman March 8, 2012

March 8, 2012

I have one message sent to one list that keeps getting sent out over and over (every 15 minutes or so). I'm no expert in Mailman internals or Python, so I have no idea how to stop it or how to figure out what's gone wrong. Has anyone seen this before? Any suggested course of action? My subscribers are going crazy. TIA. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Mathematical Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu

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bin/genaliases excessively slow?
by Ralf Hildebrandt March 7, 2012

March 7, 2012

# time ./genaliases real 2m39.183s user 0m55.771s sys 1m16.041s # ./list_lists |wc -l 906 Is that "normal" or are my expectations exaggerated :) ? -- Ralf Hildebrandt Charite Universitätsmedizin Berlin ralf.hildebrandt(a)charite.de Campus Benjamin Franklin http://www.charite.de Hindenburgdamm 30, 12203 Berlin Geschäftsbereich IT, Abt. Netzwerk fon: +49-30-450.570.155

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