Mailman 3 March 2012 - Mailman-Users

Displaying the sender email
by Duane Winner 09 Mar '12

09 Mar '12

Hello, Is there a way to configure Mailman lists so the From: line can say: "From listname(a)mymanserver.com [On Behalf of John.Doe(a)yahoo.com]" We are using a 3rd-party SMTP relay for all outbound mail, so we need to approve all senders for the service to allow the email to go through. This poses a problem with the dozens of mailing lists we host, since it is not practical to approve hundreds (if not thousands) of members. So what we are doing is configuring the mailman lists to "Hide the sender of a message, replacing it with the list address (Removes From, Sender and Reply-To fields) ", setting it to "Yes". So now all members of the list will see posts as: "From: listname(a)mymailmanserver.com" Instead of the address of the poster. This is actually a good thing for us, and we actually prefer this behavior to ensure that discussions will stay on the lists, but also this solves the problem of the SMTP relay service, since now we only need to approve the wildcard for "*(a)mymailmanserver.com" so the service will relay the email. The problem is that posters don't always include signatures, and we need to know who sent them, but by stripping out the original sender, unless they do include a signature in the body, members might not always be able to tell who posted to the list. Thanks in advance.

2 1

slow "out" queue
by Anil Jangity 09 Mar '12

09 Mar '12

We just moved a very old mailman infrastructure mailman to Solaris and sendmail. It seems, when a message is posted, the "out" directory doesn't seem to clear out fast enough. 1K archive 1K bounces 1K commands 1K in 1K news 403K out 1K retry 1K shunt 1K virgin The size just stays like that forever and slowly decrements. When I look in /var/log/syslog (mail log of sendmail), I see deliveries going through. I do a 'truss' of the OutgoingRunner python process and I see: % truss -p 11997 recv(10, 0x00748454, 8192, 0) (sleeping...) ... % What is it waiting for?

3 12

iPhone App for moderating mails
by Manuel Weiel 09 Mar '12

09 Mar '12

Hello, I don't know if this is appropriate, but I want to share it if someone finds it useful: I have written an app for moderating mails from your mailman lists. You can add multiple lists and get an overview of all the pending moderation requests. The app shows details about every mail like size, preview of the mail and moderation reason and you can approve/reject/discard the mail(s). iMailModerate is available on the AppStore for 0,99$. http://cl.ly/DyCl Best regards, Manuel Weiel

9 26

Using Google Message Security with Mailman?
by Kirke Johnson 09 Mar '12

09 Mar '12

We are migrating from an inhouse email system to Gmail. We use Google Message Security for our employee accounts to provide for spam and virus quarantining, traffic logging and management. Our migration is well advanced, and it is now time to route Mailman traffic through Postini while maintaining the Mailman server in-house. We have established the lists.pcc.edu org in Postini for this purpose. The question is: has anyone achieved this with Postini GMS and Mailman? What we are trying to puzzle out is the Postini configuration to establish each Mailman list as a user in the Postini org while assuring that Postini quarantine notifications, etc for each list will be sent to a different user (the list owner) rather than to the list.. Can a Postini user alias accomplish that? We have a support ticket open with Postini, but they seem unfamiliar with the Mailman end and what we need to accomplish there. Thanks for any advice from anyone who has already "been there"! Kirke Johnson Internet: kjohnson(a)pcc.edu Email Administrator, TSS , Sylvania Campus Portland Community College, Portland, OR, USA (971) 722-4368

1 0

error while running make install
by Con Wieland 08 Mar '12

08 Mar '12

I get the following error while running make install on Solaris 10 trying to install mailman-2.1.14-1 any help would be appreciated. I see other folks with the error but no solutions thanks Con Wieland #make install Creating architecture independent directories... chmod o-r /opt/nsp/mailman/archives/private Creating architecture dependent directories... for f in mmsitepass newlist rmlist add_members list_members remove_members clone_member update arch sync_members check_db withlist check_perms find_member version config_list list_lists dumpdb cleanarch list_admins genaliases change_pw mailmanctl qrunner inject unshunt fix_url.py convert.py transcheck b4b5-archfix list_owners msgfmt.py show_qfiles discard rb-archfix reset_pw.py export.py; \ do \ /opt/csw/bin/ginstall -c -m 755 ../build/bin/$f /opt/nsp/mailman/bin; \ done for f in crontab.in; \ do \ /opt/csw/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 $f /opt/nsp/mailman/cron; \ done for f in checkdbs mailpasswds senddigests gate_news nightly_gzip bumpdigests disabled cull_bad_shunt; \ do \ /opt/csw/bin/ginstall -c -m 755 ../build/cron/$f /opt/nsp/mailman/cron; \ done for i in ./*.jpg ./*.png; \ do \ /opt/csw/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 $i /opt/nsp/mailman/icons; \ done for d in bin cron scripts tests; \ do \ dir=/opt/nsp/mailman/$d; \ /opt/csw/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 paths.py $dir; \ done /opt/csw/bin/ginstall -c -m 755 mailman /opt/nsp/mailman/scripts /opt/csw/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 sitelist.cfg /opt/nsp/mailman/data if [ -z "" -a -d /opt/nsp/mailman/pythonlib/email ] ; \ then \ rm -rf /opt/nsp/mailman/pythonlib/email* ; \ fi for p in ; \ do \ gunzip -c ./$p.tar.gz | (cd . ; tar xf -); \ (cd ./$p ; umask 02 ; PYTHONPATH=/opt/nsp/mailman/pythonlib /opt/csw/bin/python setup.py --quiet install --install-lib /opt/nsp/mailman/pythonlib --install-purelib /opt/nsp/mailman/pythonlib --install-data /opt/nsp/mailman/pythonlib); \ done sh: syntax error at line 1: `;' unexpected *** Error code 2 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install-packages' Current working directory /home/users/cwieland/mailman-2.1.14-1/misc *** Error code 1 The following command caused the error: for d in bin cron misc Mailman scripts src templates messages tests; \ do \ (cd $d; make DESTDIR= install); \ done make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `doinstall'

3 4

Fwd: Re: Unstoppable duplicate message
by Mark Sapiro 08 Mar '12

08 Mar '12

Matthew Saltzman <mjs(a)clemson.edu> wrote: >I have one message sent to one list that keeps getting sent out over >and >over (every 15 minutes or so). I'm no expert in Mailman internals or >Python, so I have no idea how to stop it or how to figure out what's >gone wrong. Has anyone seen this before? Any suggested course of >action? My subscribers are going crazy. > >TIA. Set emergency On. If as I suspect some list member process is resending the message to the list, this will stop it. You can then delete the dups waiting moderation. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

2 2

confirm 04b15bd499c96706d41e23b8368d11d485dc55c0
by Mallory S Woods II 08 Mar '12

08 Mar '12

Hi, I recently received this from my list. -- Your membership in the mailing list Stoneridgeinfo has been disabled due to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated 20-Feb-2012. You will not get any more messages from this list until you re-enable your membership. You will receive 1 more reminders like this before your membership in the list is deleted. To re-enable your membership, you can simply respond to this message (leaving the Subject: line intact), or visit the confirmation page at -- I have had no other problems receiving mail from anywhere else and I'm listed as the admin on this list. I'm confused as to why myself and two other admins got these notices. Thanks

2 1

Unstoppable duplicate message
by Matthew Saltzman 08 Mar '12

08 Mar '12

I have one message sent to one list that keeps getting sent out over and over (every 15 minutes or so). I'm no expert in Mailman internals or Python, so I have no idea how to stop it or how to figure out what's gone wrong. Has anyone seen this before? Any suggested course of action? My subscribers are going crazy. TIA. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Mathematical Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu

1 0

bin/genaliases excessively slow?
by Ralf Hildebrandt 07 Mar '12

07 Mar '12

# time ./genaliases real 2m39.183s user 0m55.771s sys 1m16.041s # ./list_lists |wc -l 906 Is that "normal" or are my expectations exaggerated :) ? -- Ralf Hildebrandt Charite Universitätsmedizin Berlin ralf.hildebrandt(a)charite.de Campus Benjamin Franklin http://www.charite.de Hindenburgdamm 30, 12203 Berlin Geschäftsbereich IT, Abt. Netzwerk fon: +49-30-450.570.155

2 2

Mailman + postfix delivery slow
by Jesús Rivas 05 Mar '12

05 Mar '12

hi list, i have to change the server because the old server is in coma, so i put ubuntu with mailman and postifx. everything works fine, except the delivery is slow, about 20 per minute, someone help me please attached the config file for main.cf of postfix and mm_cfg.py of mailman Than a lot ################################################################ Mailman configuration ####################################################### # Here's where we get the distributed defaults. # from Defaults import * ############################################################## # Put YOUR site-specific configuration below, in mm_cfg.py . # # See Defaults.py for explanations of the values. # #------------------------------------------------------------- # The name of the list Mailman uses to send password reminders # and similar. Don't change if you want mailman-owner to be # a valid local part. MAILMAN_SITE_LIST = 'mailman' ### added from old configuration ### from socket import * try: fqdn = getfqdn() except: fqdn = 'mm_cfg_has_unknown_host_domains' ### #------------------------------------------------------------- # If you change these, you have to configure your http server # accordingly (Alias and ScriptAlias directives in most httpds #DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s//mailman/' DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/cgi-bin/mailman/' PRIVATE_ARCHIVE_URL = '/cgi-bin/mailman/private' IMAGE_LOGOS = '/images/mailman/' #------------------------------------------------------------- # Default domain for email addresses of newly created MLs DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mail.evangelizacionactiva.org.mx' #------------------------------------------------------------- # Default host for web interface of newly created MLs DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'evangelizacionactiva.org.mx' ### DEFAULT_HOST_NAME = "mail.evangelizacionactiva.org.mx" SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 1 ### #------------------------------------------------------------- # Required when setting any of its arguments. add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) #------------------------------------------------------------- # The default language for this server. DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'es' #------------------------------------------------------------- # Iirc this was used in pre 2.1, leave it for now USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER = 0 # Still used? #------------------------------------------------------------- # Unset send_reminders on newly created lists DEFAULT_SEND_REMINDERS = 0 #------------------------------------------------------------- # Uncomment this if you configured your MTA such that it # automatically recognizes newly created lists. # (see /usr/share/doc/mailman/README.Exim4.Debian or # /usr/share/mailman/postfix-to-mailman.py) # MTA=None # Misnomer, suppresses alias output on newlist # postfix-to-mailman.py), but be sure to see # /usr/share/doc/mailman/README.Debian first. MTA='Postfix' #------------------------------------------------------------- # Uncomment if you want to filter mail with SpamAssassin. For # more information please visit this website: # http://www.jamesh.id.au/articles/mailman-spamassassin/ # GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(1, 'SpamAssassin') # Note - if you're looking for something that is imported from mm_cfg, but you # didn't find it above, it's probably in /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py. ######################################### Postfix configuration main.cf ######################################### # See /usr/share/postfix/main.cf.dist for a commented, more complete version # Debian specific: Specifying a file name will cause the first # line of that file to be used as the name. The Debian default # is /etc/mailname. #myorigin = /etc/mailname smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Ubuntu) biff = no # appending .domain is the MUA's job. append_dot_mydomain = no # Uncomment the next line to generate "delayed mail" warnings #delay_warning_time = 4h readme_directory = no # TLS parameters smtpd_tls_cert_file=/etc/ssl/certs/ssl-cert-snakeoil.pem smtpd_tls_key_file=/etc/ssl/private/ssl-cert-snakeoil.key smtpd_use_tls=no smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtpd_scache smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtp_scache # See /usr/share/doc/postfix/TLS_README.gz in the postfix-doc package for # information on enabling SSL in the smtp client. myhostname = mail.evangelizacionactiva.org.mx #server-respaldo alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases myorigin = /etc/mailname mydestination = mail.evangelizacionactiva.org.mx, server-respaldo, localhost.localdomain, localhost relayhost = mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 [: mailbox_size_limit = 0 recipient_delimiter = + inet_interfaces = all inet_protocols = all local_destination_recipient_limit = 1 local_destination_concurrency_limit = 1 unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 550 #Para que platiquen los server antes de aceptar un correo. smtpd_helo_required = yes ############################# delay_warning_time = 4h unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 450 minimal_backoff_time = 300s maximal_backoff_time = 1200s maximal_queue_lifetime = 1d bounce_queue_lifetime = 1d smtp_helo_timeout = 30s smtpd_soft_error_limit = 3 smtpd_hard_error_limit = 12 -- Saludos!!! Jesus Alonso Rivas Sistemas _____________________________________ Evangelización Activa Comunicación Digital al Servicio del Evangelio www.evangelizacion.org.mx

2 1