Mailman 3 May 2014 - Mailman-Users

web search members criteria mod
by Sylvain Viart 08 May '14

08 May '14

Hi, Is it possible to use the member management form, or some tricks, to filter members authorized to post to an announce list? newsletter : How do I create a newsletter/announcement/one-way list? http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030685 May be not… Should I use : accept_these_nonmembers and moderate everyone including the poster? I know the trick about Approved: <password> But I'm sure every post will bounce once, and the poster will forget it every time… :-\ Regards, Sylvain.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] count members?
by Sylvain Viart 08 May '14

08 May '14

On 08/05/2014 12:07, Sajan Parikh wrote: > You could on a cron write the output of the following command to a > file somewhere in your web root, then use your Javascript to read the > contents of that file. > > root@mailman:/var/lib/mailman# ./bin/list_members discuss | wc -l > 16 > root@mailman:/var/lib/mailman# > Thanks. I also found: http://literalbarrage.org/blog/2011/11/14/export-mailman-subscriber-address… And: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2010-October/070389.html >> Is there some simple way to just get a counter of the number member >> subscribed in a list? >> I don't have shell access on the mailman server, me neither. So I wrote: wget -O - --post-data "adminpw=${adminpw}" \ "${listserv}/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/${listname}/members" > out And started to hack with sed… This gives some partial result: sed -n '/<td COLSPAN="11" BGCOLOR="#dddddd"><center><em>/ { s/<[^>]\+>//g ; s/[^0-9 ]\+//g p }' out | awk '{print $2}' 927 The output stored in "out" have some accentuated character not matching the current locale of my bash session. So it seems complicated to perform the match with sed only… I've rewritten it in PHP for the web purpose. It is simpler to match number. I share it here, in case of some interest: https://gist.github.com/Sylvain303/e012b2a0beec0ffbb6f0 Regards, Sylvain.

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count members?
by Sylvain Viart 08 May '14

08 May '14

document.write('927'); Hi, Is there some simple way to just get a counter of the number member subscribed in a list? So it can be put back in some html content. I've a script for another tool which outputs JavaScript for example: document.write('927'); (not related, searching the word "counter" gave me this page : http://wiki.list.org/display/~valium I suppose you can safely remove it) Regards, Sylvain.

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Add PayPal to DNs publishing DMARC p=reject
by Lindsay Haisley 08 May '14

08 May '14

$ dig +short -t txt _dmarc.paypal.com "v=DMARC1\; p=reject\; rua=mailto:d@rua.agari.com\; ruf=mailto:dk@bounce.paypal.com,mailto:d@ruf.agari.com" This probably is a problem of lesser magnitude than Yahoo! and AOL since few list posts will come from PayPal, or be delivered to such an address from a list. It might, however, occur by accident, or by a future change whereby PayPal account holders to use their DN, and although I can't imagine PayPal doing this, nothing seems to be sacrosanct or certain in the Wild, Wild West that is the Internet. It's more likely that a list might add a PayPal general customer notifications address of some sort to a list, with nomail set, for the benefit of other list subscribers. -- Lindsay Haisley | "Everything works if you let it" FMP Computer Services | 512-259-1190 | --- The Roadie http://www.fmp.com |

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Mirror mailing list with web forum
by Jon 1234 08 May '14

08 May '14

I'd be interested in how others have implemented this. Here are the options I've identified so far, with some questions. * FUDforum - http://www.fudforum.org/forum/ This is a forum with a 'mailing list manager' admin page. For me, the script to send list emails to the web forum only works from the command line, and I can't get postfix to pipe emails to that script (or, at least, I can't get the script to do anything). Has anyone got over that problem? I've asked on their own forum but no response yet. * Groupserver - http://groupserver.org/ It looks like an absolute beast to install but is a combined mailing list/web forum. I would would prefer not to leave Mailman so wonder... When is Mailman 3 likely to be released (roughly) and - if that is ages away - what are the chances of being able to migrate 'back' from Groupserver to Mailman 3? * PHPBB - https://www.phpbb.com/ They say there is no mailing list feature with version 3. * Tikiwiki CMS Groupware - https://info.tiki.org/ This has a forum which apparently can mirror a Mailman list - has anyone tried this? Sorry for all the questions. Answers to any of them would be appreciated! Best wishes Jon

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Q : Is there a possibility to localize / customize the standard Mailman lists home page / UI look ?
by Jacques Setton 07 May '14

07 May '14

Mark Sapiro Wed, 30 Apr 2014 08:22:28 -0700 > On 04/30/2014 04:35 AM, Jacques Setton wrote: > Currently, when choosing a specific local language (French in our case) for > Mailman' lists user interface, I have noticed that the standard home page > (for example the one depicted by 'lists.domain.org/mailman/listinfo') > remains in the English language. Would there be a possibility to localize > that page as well ? >> Set DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'fr' in mm_cfg.py. Thanks for this hint. After applying such setting, the default home page was successfully displayed in the French language. > While being on this topic, I'd like also to know if it is possible to > customize the general look & feel of the display UI say, at the minimum, > eventually replace or add a custom logo at the level of the Mailman/Python > logos appearing at the bottom of each page ? >> See Mailman/htmlformat.py, in particular the section beginning with >> # Logo constants I did look at the 'htmlformat.py' and was able to tailor it by adding the logo reference of the organization which will be using the operational Mailman system. Thanks again for this very useful guidance in this respect ! - - - - Jacques Setton <mailto:jsetton@waycast.com> jsetton(a)waycast.com

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new users added to custom MemberAdaptor don't get emails
by Viktor Dick 07 May '14

07 May '14

Hi folks, I have a setup where lists are not open to be joined by anyone but are managed by an LDAP database. The database is queried once an hour and the members of each list are written to a file which is then read in whenever anything is posted to a list. My problem is that newly added members seem not to be recognized until I reboot the server. The strange part is that executing /usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_members gives the correct entries including any newly added members while no actual mails are sent to the new members (they don't receive the mails and there are no entries in /var/log/mail.log) until I reboot the server. I am guessing that the ldap part should be correct since list_members shows the correct entries. I am attaching the files /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/FileMemberships.py and /var/lib/mailman/lists/testlist/extend.py, which should contain all the relevant information. If anyone is also interested in the part that polls the LDAP server, the whole code can be found at http://ldapsync.sourceforge.net/ Any help is appreciated. Regards, Viktor

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inn gateway
by jdd 07 May '14

07 May '14

Hello, I have now a running mailman and a running inn news server - only for mailing lists access (news.culte.org) I try to setup the gateway. in mailman, I wrote localhost as news server (the two apps are on the same machine) and "test" as test list. test list works test newsgroup works when I send a post to the test list, I see it in the news group but when I post in the newsgroup, I don't see it in the list! "gateway to mail" is ticked in the two lines in the administrative interface fromusenet log: s-r:~ # tail /var/lib/mailman/logs/fromusenet May 05 18:10:02 2014 (12680) test watermark: 31 May 05 18:10:02 2014 (12682) test: [1..0] May 05 18:10:02 2014 (12682) nothing new for list test May 05 18:10:02 2014 (12682) test watermark: 31 (there is nothing in the inn logs) the cron job is active ,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news any idea? It should be something obvious I miss :-( thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.org

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Mailman 2.1.18 final release
by Mark Sapiro 06 May '14

06 May '14

A critical incompatibility between the Mailman 2.1.18 final release and Python versions older than 2.6.5 or thereabouts affecting the DMARC Wrap Message action was discovered and fixed. This incompatibility also existed in the 2.1.16 and 2.1.17 releases. Thus, I have released Mailman 2.1.18-1 with a fix for this incompatibility. Please use 2.1.18-1 and not 2.1.18. These releases have new features to help with mitigation of the impacts of DMARC on mailing lists as well as fixing several bugs. Python 2.4 is the minimum supported, but Python 2.7 is recommended. There are significant new i18n strings associated with the DMARC mitigation features. If you are interested in helping with the translations of these strings, see <http://wiki.list.org/x/MQ>. There is also a new dependency associated with these features. Namely, the new Privacy options -> Sender filters -> dmarc_moderation_action feature requires that the dnspython <http://www.dnspython.org/> package be available in Python. See the attached README for more details. Mailman is free software for managing email mailing lists and e-newsletters. Mailman is used for all the python.org and SourceForge.net mailing lists, as well as at hundreds of other sites. For more information, please see: http://www.list.org http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman http://mailman.sourceforge.net/ Mailman 2.1.18-1 can be downloaded from https://launchpad.net/mailman/2.1/ http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/mailman/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/mailman/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Changes to archive templates have no effect
by Henrik Rasmussen 06 May '14

06 May '14

I am running Mailman version 2.1.12. When I change my templates in /usr/lib/mailman/templates/site/da/ (like admlogin.html) I see the changes taking effect (immediately, even though I didn't restart Mailman), but any changes I make to the Archive templates located in the same directory doesn't seem to have any effect. According to /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py line 799 Mailman uses archtoc.html in case of a Private list or archtocnombox.html in case of a public list. The changes doesn't take effect regardless of whether the list is private or public. But I'm not sure if this the decision is made from the default (PUBLIC_MBOX) variable in the mm_cfg.py or Default.py files since the HyperArch.py file refers to the mm_cfg. To debug, I tried make a change in the default /usr/lib/mailman/templates/da/ archtoc.html file, but this does not have any effect either. Changing the archliststart.html, archlistend.html, archtocentry.html, archidxfoot.html, archidxhead.html have no effect either. I did remember to restart Mailman both (just in case) using "service mailman restart" and "mailmanctl restart". Henrik Rasmussen <her(a)adm.ku.dk>

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