Mailman 3 July 2014 - Mailman-Users

postfix errors
by Jimmy July 21, 2014

July 21, 2014

I am still working on this new mailman system and seeing these errors when an email is sent to the system. I've googled the errors and haven't yet found anything that helps. Any ideas? Thanks 2014-07-17T10:38:52.396296-04:00 listservhostname postfix/smtpd[13799]: connect from unknown[10.0.0.1] 2014-07-17T10:38:52.497048-04:00 listservhostname postfix/smtpd[13799]: 790A84583: client=unknown[10.0.0.1] 2014-07-17T10:38:52.613030-04:00 listservhostname postfix/cleanup[13802]: 790A84583: message-id=< 7e1decc87c4844c18882f3a27eefa406(a)CORPEXCHMBX10.listdomain.com> 2014-07-17T10:38:52.625741-04:00 listservhostname postfix/qmgr[13725]: 790A84583: from=<username(a)listdomain.com>, size=5925, nrcpt=1 (queue active) 2014-07-17T10:38:52.635273-04:00 listservhostname postfix/pipe[13803]: fatal: get_service_attr: unknown username: list 2014-07-17T10:38:52.666526-04:00 listservhostname postfix/smtpd[13799]: disconnect from unknown[10.0.0.1] 2014-07-17T10:38:53.637115-04:00 listservhostname postfix/qmgr[13725]: warning: private/mailman socket: malformed response 2014-07-17T10:38:53.637153-04:00 listservhostname postfix/qmgr[13725]: warning: transport mailman failure -- see a previous warning/fatal/panic logfile record for the problem description 2014-07-17T10:38:53.638431-04:00 listservhostname postfix/master[13722]: warning: process /usr/libexec/postfix/pipe pid 13803 exit status 1 2014-07-17T10:38:53.638453-04:00 listservhostname postfix/master[13722]: warning: /usr/libexec/postfix/pipe: bad command startup -- throttling 2014-07-17T10:38:53.656307-04:00 listservhostname postfix/error[13805]: 790A84583: to=<systems-changelog(a)lists.listdomain.com>, relay=none, delay=1.2, delays=0.14/1/0/0.01, dsn=4.3.0, status=deferred (unknown mail transport error) 2014-07-17T10:39:42.687502-04:00 listservhostname postfix/qmgr[13725]: 740AF107: from=<username(a)listdomain.com>, size=5114, nrcpt=1 (queue active) 2014-07-17T10:39:42.699454-04:00 listservhostname postfix/error[13805]: 740AF107: to=<systems-changelog(a)lists.listdomain.com>, relay=none, delay=539, delays=539/0.01/0/0, dsn=4.3.0, status=deferred (unknown mail transport error)

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Moving lists to new server - question on specific files
by Alfred Pope July 19, 2014

July 19, 2014

I've read dozens of posts concerning how to move mailman lists to a new mailman server and I have a pretty good idea what needs to be done. I would like to get clarification on several details though. 1) I'm moving the lists from version 2.1.9 on Solaris 10 to version 2.1.18-1 on Ubuntu. In an older post from Barry (which I cannot find now) he seems to indicate the list configuration files under mailman/lists/<listname>/ have not changed in these minor releases. He didn't come right out and say it directly but that's what I got from the post. I just wanted to clarify this. Does the format or contents of the list config files change among these minor releases? 2) Also concerning the files under mailman/lists/<listname>/: several different posters say to copy over the entire contents of mailman/lists/<listname>/ but other posters say the only "necessary" files to copy are the list config.pck files. It makes sense that if you only copy over these minimal config files, you will loose the pending requests and subscription requests for each list. Loosing the data in pending.pck and request.pck is OK with me as long as it doesn't break the list. The list managers will be alerted in advance to clean up their lists. Also, the current (old) list server contains config.db files for each list in addition to the config.pck files. This is probably due to a previous migration in 2007. I would rather not copy everything under these list directories. I just need the list configuration and membership data. Is copying the minimal config files a safe plan? 3) I don't plan on copying over the heldmsg and bounce files under mailman/data/ If the list managers don't clean up their lists before the move they will loose this data. That's OK. I just want to make sure not including those files won't break something down the road. Thank you for your time. Rick

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mhonarc patch
by Peter Knowles July 18, 2014

July 18, 2014

Hi, Is anyone familiar with the "mhonarc" patch found at: http://www.openinfo.co.uk/mm/patches/mhonarc/ It seems when applied to 2.1.8, it cannot seem to patch "Mailboxes.py" and "Version.py". During the patching process, here is the error produced: Hunk #2 FAILED at 106. 1 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file Mailman/Mailbox.py.rej Hunk #1 FAILED at 39. 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file Mailman/Version.py.rej *** all other patching seems to work fine, and I've followed all instructions on the website to the best of my knowledge including changing the value of "DATA_FILE_VERSION" in the patch. Any help in making this patch work would be super, as I've got clients on my case about being able to use mhonarc once again. This patch was chosen specifically because we're also using the "htdig" patch by the same author. Best Regards, Peter Knowles TPN Solutions Email: pknowles(a)tpnsolutions.com Phone: 604-229-0715 Skype: tpnsupport Website: http://www.tpnsolutions.com

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Help customizing VERP_CONFIRM_REGEXP
by Pablo Montepagano July 18, 2014

July 18, 2014

I have enabled in my server VERP_CONFIRMATIONS so that the subject of email confirmations is more human-friendly. But I would also like to change the format of the "From:" header of email confirmations. Currently they follow the default value of VERP_CONFIRM_REGEXP. I've been trying to change it so that I can get something like this: From: Mailman <listaddr-confirm+cookie(a)example.org> This is currently in my mm_cfg.py: VERP_CONFIRM_REGEXP = r'(?s)^(.*<)?(?P<addr>.+)\+(?P<cookie>[^@+]+)@.*$' VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes Does anyone know how to do this? I'm running mailman 2.1.13 Thanks in advance, Pablo

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Re-formatting messages
by Peter Brooks July 17, 2014

July 17, 2014

I'm using a mailing list for a very specific application. All the e-mails arrive in a standard - but unfriendly format. How do I reformat them? If I could filter the messages through a unix script, that'd do the job perfectly. Is there a way to get mailman to pass e-mails through a script before sending them? What I'm actually trying to do is that the message arrives something like this: " Subject: Message from #343223 at 16:50 on 16/07/2014 Body: Dear X, Here is the from #343223 at 16:50 on 16/07/2014 J.Smith|Logged a message|Urgent|16:50 on 16/07/2014|Subject:Incident|Description:The machine is broken| |How do I fix it?|Status:New|Telephone:01423435|e-mail:J-Smith@smiths.co.es|16:50 on 16/07/2014|Location:Head Office| MessageID:343.@co.es.4212 " What I'd like to turn this into is: Subject: URGENT Incident - Logged by J.Smith at 16:50 on 16/07/2014 Message: URGENT Incident - J.Smith - Telephone:01423435 e-mail:J-Smith@smiths.co.es -------------------------------- The machine is broken How do I fix it? -------------------------------- Location: Head Office " What's the best way to achieve that? All the messages have exactly the same format, so it'd be really easy to write an awk filter to do this, and that'd be my preferred option - but I've no idea where to put the script or how to ask mailman to use it. To complicate matters a little bit, I'm using a hosted machine, so I have to do everything through CPANEL. If this isn't possible, my next option would be to send the messages to a machine I do have control over - so, if there's a way to do this that needs root access then I'd like to know that too, because that's plan C. [My Plan A was to get the originating machine to send nicely formatted messages in the first place, but I've not managed that and run out of time..]

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Group mismatch again.
by Bill Christensen July 15, 2014

July 15, 2014

Hey folks, I'm doing an upgrade/reinstall on one of my servers, and when I put Mailman back on I'm getting a group mismatch error. It's happened to me before, but I don't remember the exact procedure to make it work properly. The setup: Moving from Mac OS 10.8.5 to 10.9.4, on a MAMP setup, everything installed using MacPorts. Upgrading MySQL, PHP, and PostgreSQL in the process. MacPorts hasn't upgraded Mailman beyond 2.1.13 (a separate issue I may want to address later). Right now I'm doing test runs on a backup to make sure all the pieces and parts will work properly when I do the update for real. I have all the other parts in place but I'm now getting the dreaded group mismatch error from Mailman. When I first installed everything I installed Mailman before PostgreSQL, and the feedback told me that I needed either to compile Mailman as --with-mail-gid=postgresql or change the mail server (standard Mac installation of Postfix) to run as group _mailman. I uninstalled and reinstalled Mailman and now it's telling me that I need to compile Mailman as --with-mail-gid=staff. I changed the setting in MacPorts' file from --with-mail-gid=_mailman to --with-mail-gid=staff and attempted to reinstall, but I'm getting an error that it's "Unable to open port - invalid command name '--with-mail-gid=staff'". Anyone have any ideas of where to go from here? I'd rather not do a direct download/compile of Mailman if possible, as MacPorts spreads the pieces and parts into a number of directories and I'd probably have a heck of a time getting all the paths working correctly again.

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List owner account in Mailman3 (postorius)
by ML mail July 14, 2014

July 14, 2014

Hi, How do I create a list owner account in the new Mailman3 web interface (postorius)? Regards ML

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ALLOW_FROM_IS_LIST, FROM_IS_LIST and http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=17891458
by Steven Owens July 13, 2014

July 13, 2014

Mark, A suggestion, you might want to change this page: http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=17891458 ...to something like: "If you have Mailman 2.1.16 or newer, set ALLOW_FROM_IS_LIST = Yes in mm_cfg.py and then restart mailman. The from_is_list setting will then appear on the Admin / General page. Set the list's from_is_list setting to either [...]" I didn't want to edit mm_cfg.py and restart mailman until I knew what I needed to change for from_is_list. I did a fair bit of googling and tail chasing, only finding discussions about ALLOW_FROM_IS_LIST, until I found a page (the dreamhost mailman wiki) that explicitly said from_is_list should show up on General/Admin. Then I guessed that editing mm_cfg.py and restarting might make it show up. -- Steven J. Owens stevenjowens(a)gmail.com puff(a)darksleep.com 412-401-8060

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Mailman message IDs? Disappearing Posts
by Steven Owens July 12, 2014

July 12, 2014

What does mailman do to message IDs? When a message is posted to list subscribers, does it have the same message ID, or a predictably modified message ID that I can grep for? I'm trying to trace disappearing posts from a couple of list members. Their posts go through postfix, mailman reports the posts as succesfully posted, and the posts show up in the list archives, but not in the subscribers mailboxes. I have a small list with about 20 members. Most of the members, the list works fine; mail is showing up, being sent out, being received and replied to, etc. A handful of members lots of bounces, probably due to their provider's policies (yahoo and hotmail, although *sometimes* the messages get through and one yahoo user has posted successfully). However, for these two yahoo subscribers, their posts get reported as posted successfully, but are never received by the list subscribers. I grep postfix logs (/var/log/mail.log) for the sender's email address, I see a message coming in, and postfix handing it off to mailman post (full log excerpt at end of message): ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jul 9 07:52:53 ip-172-31-8-246 postfix/local[5175]: 4A11D26A33: to=<Examplelist(a)example.com>, relay=local, delay=0.46, delays=0.36/0.01/0/0.09, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post examplelist) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I grep that message ID in /var/log/mailman/* and I see one line, telling me it was posted successfully: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- post:Jul 09 07:52:54 2014 (4216) post to listname from example(a)yahoo.com, size=3411, message-id=<1404892372.90900.YahooMailBasic(a)web163105.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, success ---------------------------------------------------------------------- No other occurrences of that message ID in /var/log/mailman/*. Or anywhere in /var/log other than the lines of postfix receiving it, forwarding it and cleaning it up (see log excerpt at end). The mailman post log just says "posted successfully", nothing else in there to indicate where to look next, or what the new message ID (if any) might be. Any hints? Grepping for lines with a similar timestamp turns up half a dozen bounce messages two seconds later, which may explains why those 6 subscribers don't get the messages, but not the rest. /var/log/mailman/error is empty. /var/lib/mailman/qfiles subdirectories are empty. Content filtering is NOT on. Though I just went in and changed the action from "discard" to "forward to list owner" (me), just in case. --/var/log/mail.log--------------------------------------------------- Jul 9 07:52:52 ip-172-31-8-246 postfix/smtpd[5171]: connect from nm12-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com[98.139.213.140] Jul 9 07:52:53 ip-172-31-8-246 postfix/smtpd[5171]: 4A11D26A33: client=nm12-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com[98.139.213.140] Jul 9 07:52:53 ip-172-31-8-246 postfix/cleanup[5174]: 4A11D26A33: message-id=<1404892372.90900.YahooMailBasic(a)web163105.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Jul 9 07:52:53 ip-172-31-8-246 postfix/qmgr[1119]: 4A11D26A33: from=<exampleuser(a)yahoo.com>, size=2415, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jul 9 07:52:53 ip-172-31-8-246 postfix/local[5175]: 4A11D26A33: to=<Examplelist(a)example.com>, relay=local, delay=0.46, delays=0.36/0.01/0/0.09, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post examplelist) Jul 9 07:52:53 ip-172-31-8-246 postfix/qmgr[1119]: 4A11D26A33: removed Jul 9 07:52:53 ip-172-31-8-246 postfix/smtpd[5171]: disconnect from nm12-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com[98.139.213.140] Jul 9 07:52:54 ip-172-31-8-246 postfix/smtpd[5171]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1] Jul 9 07:52:54 ip-172-31-8-246 postfix/smtpd[5171]: 88D3726A7D: client=localhost[127.0.0.1] Jul 9 07:52:54 ip-172-31-8-246 postfix/cleanup[5174]: 88D3726A7D: message-id=<1404892372.90900.YahooMailBasic(a)web163105.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Jul 9 07:52:54 ip-172-31-8-246 postfix/qmgr[1119]: 88D3726A7D: from=<examplelist-bounces(a)example.com>, size=3672, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jul 9 07:52:54 ip-172-31-8-246 postfix/smtpd[5171]: 95CF926A7E: client=localhost[127.0.0.1] Jul 9 07:52:54 ip-172-31-8-246 postfix/cleanup[5174]: 95CF926A7E: message-id=<1404892372.90900.YahooMailBasic(a)web163105.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Jul 9 07:52:54 ip-172-31-8-246 postfix/smtpd[5171]: disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --/var/log/mailman/post----------------------------------------------- Jul 09 07:52:54 2014 (4216) post to examplelist from exampleuser(a)yahoo.com, size=3411, message-id=<1404892372.90900.YahooMailBasic(a)web163105.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, success ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Steven J. Owens stevenjowens(a)gmail.com puff(a)darksleep.com 412-401-8060

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HTML messages being scrubbed...
by Peter Knowles July 12, 2014

July 12, 2014

Hi, Ever since I upgraded Mailman to address DMARC issues in April a number of archives have been having their HTML messages scrubbed. The result is that the archived message shows all these scrubbed notices instead of the actual message. What is causing this and how do I resolve this? *** is there a way to fix existing archives as well? *** Best Regards, Peter Knowles TPN Solutions E: pknowles(a)tpnsolutions.com P: 604-782-9342 W: http://www.tpnsolutions.com

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