Mailman 3 February 2015 - Mailman-Users

FW: Your confirmation is required to leave the Mailman-Users mailing list
by Peter Shute Feb. 16, 2015

Feb. 16, 2015

This is the second time I've received one of these. I'm told the only way one of these could be generated is if there's a URL published out there that does this when a bot crawls it, or if someone deliberately tried to unsubscribe me. Given that I've only had two in five months, I assume it must be the latter. It doesn't matter, but I'm curious about what would motivate someone to do that. Did anyone else get one recently? I've never had one for any other lists I'm on. Peter Shute -----Original Message----- From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+pshute=nuw.org.au@python.org] On Behalf Of mailman-users-confirm+9c0f272e65a3675ab914d10f23c7a0c62d6c3361(a)python.org Sent: Monday, 16 February 2015 6:19 PM To: Peter Shute Subject: Your confirmation is required to leave the Mailman-Users mailing list Mailing list removal confirmation notice for mailing list Mailman-Users We have received a request from 132.230.1.27 for the removal of your email address, "pshute(a)nuw.org.au" from the mailman-users(a)python.org mailing list. To confirm that you want to be removed from this mailing list ... etc ... If you do not wish to be removed from this list, please simply disregard this message. If you think you are being maliciously removed from the list, or have any other questions, send them to mailman-users-owner(a)python.org.

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Mailman Bounce Messages
by Tapia, Rene Feb. 15, 2015

Feb. 15, 2015

Hello, A while back I replaced our older Mailman Server with a SLES 11 SP3 Server. The Mailman Version is 2.1.14. Everything is running fine for the most past. The only issue that I have is that when certain large email lists send emails containing attachments the .pck bounce messages in /var/lib/mailman/data grow rapidly and fills up all the disk. These lists are large and I know for a face a lot of these email addresses no longer exists. I have a 60GB disk dedicated to /var and space is not an issue. It always sits at 40% utilization until someone send an email to these lists. Is there something that I can do to avoid this from happening? Any help would be appreciated. Regards, René Tapia

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sending a message to someone not subscribed to a list?
by adam morris Feb. 14, 2015

Feb. 14, 2015

Hi all, I'm new to mailman. I run 4 fairly small lists. I found somewhere but can't remember where the ability to send a message to people if they send a message to a list and they are not subscribed. I could put a message somewhere that they will see to remind them, then I as administrator won't get the bounce message. I can't remember where this is, I did it for some of my lists but not all. If someone could help that would be appreciated. Sorry for being so long winded! -- Adam Morris email: adam(a)damorris.com

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Internationalisation bug in 2.1.15
by Laura Creighton Feb. 10, 2015

Feb. 10, 2015

Recently Tin Tvrtković tried to subscribe to the pypy-dev mailing list. He got the "Bug in Mailman version 2.1.15 We're sorry, we hit a bug!" message. When he tried to reply to the confirmation message, he got it again. It looks like it could possibly be this 10 year old bug that Mark was unable to reproduce at the time .... https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/266223 but we don't have a traceback, so maybe not. We can reproduce the problem all we like; it is with the last character in Tin's name, which is U+0107. Tin is Croatian, so I assume that is what his character set is on his machine, but I get this here, too. pypy-dev is configured with a default lanaguage of English(USA). Should I make a bug report, or is this already fixed in later versions of mailman? Laura Creighton

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Link to archive from admin interface
by Manuel Goepfert Feb. 10, 2015

Feb. 10, 2015

Hi Mailman users, I moved a list to a newer server today and was able to succesfully load the users and the private archives. All works well except when loged in the admin interface and I want to go to the archives. The link is not correct and point to /pipermail/mylist instead of /cgi-bin/mailman/private/mylist/ I've ran the fix URL as this was of course broken and repimported the archives with new URL. This is the last piece that drives me crazy :) Many thanks for your help. Manuel

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Google App
by Laura Creighton Feb. 9, 2015

Feb. 9, 2015

Unless Google App Engine has changed recently, it cannot receive any mail at all. So you need to move your mailing list software to someplace else, mailman friendly. There is no hope of doing what you want. Sorry about that, Laura Creighton

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Mailman 2.1.19 release
by Mark Sapiro Feb. 7, 2015

Feb. 7, 2015

I am pleased to announce the second release candidate for Mailman 2.1.19. Python 2.4 is the minimum supported, but Python 2.7 is recommended. This release has several new features since 2.1.18-1, some newly implemented and some backported from the now truly defunct 2.2 branch - there is nothing left in that branch that isn't in this release. Associated with those changes are many things that have i18n impacts including new and modified strings in the message catalog, a new adminaddrchgack.txt template and a minor change to the admindbdetails.html template. I strongly encourage anyone with an interest in translations of Mailman to get this release and help with updating the translations. There are also bug fixes. See the attached README for more details. The differences between this and the first 2.1.19 candidate are the following. The subscribe_auto_approval feature in the first candidate has been augmented to accept @listname to auto approve members of another list. (LP: #1417093) Organization: headers are unconditionally removed from posts to anonymous lists and a bug involving ANONYMOUS_LIST_KEEP_HEADERS has been fixed. (LP: #1419132) The admindb interface display of a held message body has been fixed to not stop in the middle of a multi-byte character and not fail to convert to the display character set message bodies with invalid characters. (LP: #1415406) Additionally, and the main reason for this second candidate, Mailman's character set for both Romanian and Russian has been changed to utf-8. (LP: #1418735) and (LP: #1418448). This may be disruptive in that following this change, some archive pages and some list attributes for lists whose preferred_language is one of those two languages may not display correctly. Archives can be fixed by running 'bin/arch --wipe' for the affected lists, but list attributes will probably have to be fixed manually. I hope the benefits of this change will outweigh the pain, and I encourage anyone with Romanian or Russian Language lists to try this release and report your experience. It may be possible to fix at least some list attributes programmatically as part of the version update process. I plan to release the final 2.1.19 release at the end of February, and it would be good to have as many i18n updates as possible by then. Mailman is free software for managing email mailing lists and e-newsletters. Mailman is used for all the python.org and SourceForge.net mailing lists, as well as at hundreds of other sites. For more information, please see: http://www.list.org http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman http://mailman.sourceforge.net/ Mailman 2.1.19rc2 can be downloaded from https://launchpad.net/mailman/2.1/ http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/mailman/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/mailman/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to configure mailman to only deliver mail a few times a day?
by Laura Creighton Feb. 7, 2015

Feb. 7, 2015

>> Anything obviously wrong with this idea? > >It doesn't seem that the 'mover' should be checking the age of things in >queue 1. The idea is just to not send messages more than a few times a >day, not to introduce extra delay. > >Also, it's easy to configure Mailman to use some smtp port other than 25 >for sending and thus send only to to the first sendmail and be the only >thing that does so, but you may not want to delay all Mailman mail, e.g. >an on demand password reminder or a held message notification. The mover >needs to be smart. I think it should check queue1 frequently and if a >queued message has a Mailman generated Message-ID: of the form ><mailman\.\d+\.\d+\.\d+\..+@.+> move it right now, otherwise wait until >x hours since the last "bulk move" at which time it moves everything and >updates the last bulk move time. > >-- >Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, >San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan Thanks Mark. Laura

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to configure mailman to only deliver mail a few times a day?
by Laura Creighton Feb. 7, 2015

Feb. 7, 2015

Well, after giving the problem a night's worth of thought, I think the best idea for this problem is to use sendmail. Or rather to use 2 of them. The first one just receives mail and queues it. But it is configured to _not_ process the mail queue. The second one is configured so that it processes its own mail queue. Then you write an external program that wakes up every so often, and checks to see if anything in queue1 is old enough to send. If it is, it moves it off to queue2, where the second sendmail will deal with it. Anything obviously wrong with this idea? Laura

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Wrong encoding
by EyeLand Feb. 6, 2015

Feb. 6, 2015

Hello, I setup on VPS many mailman lists and on info page of all the public mailing lists on ”Description” I see wrong russian encoding like ”ðÒÅÓÓ ÃÅÎÔÒ”, there you can see error http://list.ournet.biz/cgi-bin/mailman/ listinfo, can you consult? Thank you.

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