Mailman 3 September 2015 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Does mailman care about mail aliases? (fwd)
by Laura Creighton Sept. 6, 2015

Sept. 6, 2015

Trying to get us off that Portuguese mailing list. Seems spambayes thinks the unsubscribe mail it sends us is spam ... ------- Forwarded Message To: mailman-users(a)python.org References: <201509060915.t869FVVP015013(a)fido.openend.se> From: Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Message-ID: <55EC5BA2.8060907(a)msapiro.net> Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 08:28:34 -0700 On 09/06/2015 02:15 AM, Laura Creighton wrote: > > So I went to the user webpage for this list, stuck in > 'webmaster(a)python.org' and asked it to send me my password. > Nothing has happened, except getting more mail from the list. > Mailing guardasmailing-owner hasn't done anything either, but > well, it is Sunday. > > Is there some sort of special processing that I have forgotten about > that can keep me from getting a password for webmaster(a)python.org > so I can unsubscribe us from this thing? The list should send the reminder if 'webmaster(a)python.org' is a member. The header below indicates that mail is being sent from the server to <webmaster(a)python.org> so that would appear to be the subscribed address unless it is being somehow rewritten by the sending server which seems unlikely. > Received: from brs28.brs.com.br (host54-175.brs.com.br [177.11.54.175]) > (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) > (No client certificate requested) > by mail.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS > for <webmaster(a)python.org>; Sat, 5 Sep 2015 18:46:59 +0200 (CEST) I have looked through the mail logs on mail.python.org for Sept 5 and 6 (CEST) and I see no evidence of any reminder from the guardasmailing(a)guardasmunicipais.com.br list having arrives although I do see posts from the list, some accepted and some rejected by spambayes. I have requested unsubscribe of webmaster(a)python.org from guardasmailing(a)guardasmunicipais.com.br both by email and by web and another reminder by web. We'll see if the confirmations arrive. And I've now looked in the mail.log, and it seems all 3 of these messages are rejected by spambayes. I don't have time to look further, but there may be some ways to temporarily whitelist this server. They all come from host54-175.brs.com.br[177.11.54.175]. - -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan - ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/lac%40openend.se ------- End of Forwarded Message

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Does mailman care about mail aliases?
by Laura Creighton Sept. 6, 2015

Sept. 6, 2015

Somebody has subscribed 'webmaster(a)python.org' to their wretched Portuguese Language Mailing List. My Portuguese is none too good, but the messages all seem to be of the 'kill this mailing list' and 'get me off this mailing list' sort. So I went to the user webpage for this list, stuck in 'webmaster(a)python.org' and asked it to send me my password. Nothing has happened, except getting more mail from the list. Mailing guardasmailing-owner hasn't done anything either, but well, it is Sunday. Is there some sort of special processing that I have forgotten about that can keep me from getting a password for webmaster(a)python.org so I can unsubscribe us from this thing? Laura --------------------------- Here are all the headers I get, in case it is of use. Return-Path: <guardasmailing-bounces(a)guardasmunicipais.com.br> Received: from mail.python.org (mail.python.org [82.94.164.166]) by theraft.openend.se (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-4) with ESMTP id t85Gl0Aj026 936 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO ) for <lac(a)openend.se>; Sat, 5 Sep 2015 18:47:02 +0200 Received: by mail.python.org (Postfix) id 3n7hc420YrzQ8b; Sat, 5 Sep 2015 18:47:00 +0200 (CEST) Delivered-To: webmaster(a)mail.python.org Received: from albatross.python.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3n7hc41gWmzMyg for <webmaster(a)python.org>; Sat, 5 Sep 2015 18:47:00 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Status: UNSURE 0.691 X-Spam-Level: ****** Received: from localhost (HELO mail.python.org) (127.0.0.1) by albatross.python.org with SMTP; 05 Sep 2015 18:47:00 +0200 Received: from brs28.brs.com.br (host54-175.brs.com.br [177.11.54.175]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS for <webmaster(a)python.org>; Sat, 5 Sep 2015 18:46:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50163 helo=brs28.brs.com.br) by brs28.brs.com.br with esmtp (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from <guardasmailing-bounces(a)guardasmunicipais.com.br>) id 1ZYGUq-0002uZ-OB; Sat, 05 Sep 2015 13:39:20 -0300 Received: from mail-ig0-f176.google.com ([209.85.213.176]:37598) by brs28.brs.com.br with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from <borgesgmc(a)gmail.com>) id 1ZYGUf-0002sy-Q9 for guardasmailing(a)guardasmunicipais.com.br; Sat, 05 Sep 2015 13:39:10 -0300 Received: by igbni9 with SMTP id ni9so33685262igb.0 for <guardasmailing(a)guardasmunicipais.com.br>; Sat, 05 Sep 2015 09:39:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=HS7YzbpvP3V2kRn4J0APX3JnzEgHwfDEr6KUGqex8/0=; b=rzO4Gt8RgdFdbBY0BpHc2OwUt773y2NIAr1hixjGc1BBEbQRlFodmYpdkmQVOFcRa6 I0ClmdhSwJ+xjxVmFgtRrLV/9wHvWLW7/fmAF66dkZeYsejyMl3GLHNbDsYxlCov4IF0 tGcj0qgPU8G4tLiKpIqY2Hxr8vbMpVDOkSmmNcWTG/YZpxDvOYURQKtxEFtQgsmrWotr LLWnYb8EozOP0DDuZfP8Q7RU5EPUpaHG2+AxzEJkvmvzpH80eOODtO1ex5SRikl+loNH Npr9x4UQSgGAz7ibJTKtDU7wIvanBcCxQFBWDKOJz08Bpk+FYYph3T/LzJR9wcSkIlra +WkA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.13.72 with SMTP id f8mr17209489igc.50.1441471147066; Sat, 05 Sep 2015 09:39:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.47.96 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Sep 2015 09:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.47.96 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Sep 2015 09:39:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <GRUPR80MB073BF334FE5BF1A0D80627BA9570(a)GRUPR80MB073.lamprd80.prod.o utlook.com> References: <BLU176-W41CD84CB5BEE070D149707FE570(a)phx.gbl> <55E9CFA3.50204(a)terra.com.br> <SNT404-EAS153DC8FA6896B2BB2D26852BD570(a)phx.gbl> <GRUPR80MB073BF334FE5BF1A0D80627BA9570(a)GRUPR80MB073.lamprd80.prod.outloo k.com> Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2015 13:39:06 -0300 Message-ID: <CAGd8gSrzvUd3tyO50Vrpmq-fCNLjKnQEO3r6MEyNsZ10owTo-w(a)mail.gmail.com> From: Eduardo Borges <borgesgmc(a)gmail.com> To: Raquel Rosan Christino Gitahy <raquel(a)unoeste.br> Subject: Re: [Guardasmailing] =?utf-8?q?Urgente=3A_Solicita=C3=A7=C3=A3o_de_In?= =?utf-8?b?Zm9ybWHDp8O1ZXM=?= X-BeenThere: guardasmailing(a)guardasmunicipais.com.br X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: <guardasmailing.guardasmunicipais.com.br> List-Unsubscribe: <http://guardasmunicipais.com.br/mailman/options/guardasmailin g_guardasmunicipais.com.br>, <mailto:guardasmailing-request@guardasmunicipais.com.br?subject=unsubscr ibe> List-Archive: <http://guardasmunicipais.com.br/pipermail/guardasmailing_guardasm unicipais.com.br/> List-Post: <mailto:guardasmailing@guardasmunicipais.com.br> List-Help: <mailto:guardasmailing-request@guardasmunicipais.com.br?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://guardasmunicipais.com.br/mailman/listinfo/guardasmailing _guardasmunicipais.com.br>, <mailto:guardasmailing-request@guardasmunicipais.com.br?subject=subscrib e> Cc: Joao Werner Falk <joaofalk(a)terra.com.br>, "guardasmailing(a)guardasmunicipais.com.br" <guardasmailing(a)guardasmunicipais.com.br> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0204601574603855756==" Errors-To: guardasmailing-bounces(a)guardasmunicipais.com.br Sender: "Guardasmailing" <guardasmailing-bounces(a)guardasmunicipais.com.br> X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any ab use report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - brs28.brs.com.br X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - guardasmunicipais.com.br X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: brs28.brs.com.br: acl_c_authenticated_local_user: mail man/mailman

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All confirmation emails going to SPAM on gmail
by Nitin Sharma Sept. 5, 2015

Sept. 5, 2015

Hi All, So I set up mailman ( mailman-2.1.15-21.20 ) and have my SPF/DKIM/DMARC set for my domain. All of the confirmation emails sent are classified under Gmail as "Spam". The list postings however are correctly sent to Forum Tab. I see that "Precedence:bulk" is set on the confirmation emails, whereas "Precedence:list" is set on the posting. I think that's okay. Confirmation emails are important and I want to increase the likelihood of it not being classified as spam. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. I opened a discussion in here too , which contain all the headers - https://productforums.google.com/forum/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer#… According to the Bulk sender's guidelines : I have mostly all done correct except the below 1. Unsubscribe option - Don't have it since confirmation email means the user hasn't subscribed yet. 2. Use the same address in the 'From:' header on every bulk mail you send. - This on mailman's confirmation email is sent as list+confirm+<vars>@domain , and this changes every time. Is there a way to make this consistent? Thanks Nitin

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creating a htdig global search
by Jason Fayre Sept. 4, 2015

Sept. 4, 2015

Hello, After getting HTDig to work on a per-list basis, I'd now like to set up a global search for all of our lists. Has anyone done this? I'm not sure what to put in the config file for start_url to have it build a master index of all the archives. Any help would be appreciated.

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Question about spam directory
by Rosenbaum, Larry M. Sept. 4, 2015

Sept. 4, 2015

There are several files in our Mailman spam directory /var/lib/mailman/spam. These have filenames like spam-listname-number.msg Some of them are zero length; some are not. Where are these coming from? The spam filters are set to the default values, which shouldn't be blocking anything. Larry M. Rosenbaum Oak Ridge National Laboratory

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message to list does not get forwarded to all list members
by Peter Wetz Sept. 4, 2015

Sept. 4, 2015

Currently I experience the following issue on my list: If one specific subscriber posts a message to the list, it does not get forwarded to all list members. However, some (at least one) receives his messages. But most, don't receive his message. The message also shows up properly in the list archive. What is the problem? How can I debug this? Why does the message not get through to all list members? The domain of the source mail is yahoo.com Thanks and best, Peter

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Re: [Mailman-Users] integrating htdig with cpanel mailman
by Mark Sapiro Sept. 3, 2015

Sept. 3, 2015

Forwarding to mailman-users for completeness. On 09/02/2015 05:29 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 09/02/2015 05:07 PM, Jason Fayre wrote: >> Here you go. >> Thanks so much for your help on this! >> This rundig is from the centos 6.7 htdig package. > > > Your rundig has been modified from the 3.2.0b6 htdig base. The base > rundig always does a full rebuild of the index My patch to rundig adds a > '-u' option to do an 'update' rather than a full rebuild. Your > RedHat/Centos package rundig already has this option only it's '-i' for > incremental. > > Thus, you don't need to patch your rundig at all unless you want to > uncomment line 79 (which my patch does) per lines 77-79 > > # If you want to use the soundex and (or) metaphone fuzzy matchings, > # Uncomment the following line > # $BINDIR/htfuzzy $opts soundex metaphone > > What you do need to do however is change nightly_htdig. My patch added > amongst other things the line > > init_or_update = ' -u' > > per > > @@ -109,6 +109,7 @@ > # test if the archive volume directories mod times have > # changed > recent_posts = None > + init_or_update = ' -u' > rundig_run_file = os.path.join(list_htdig_dir, 'rundig_last_run') > archive = HyperArch.HyperArchive(mlist) > try: > > You need to change that to > > init_or_update = ' -i' > > because in your rundig the 'incremental' option is '-i', not '-u'. > -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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integrating htdig with cpanel mailman
by Jason Fayre Sept. 2, 2015

Sept. 2, 2015

Hello, I'm attempting to get Mailman 2.1.20 working with htdig. I've installed the htdig patch for this version of Mailman from Mark's site. When I run a search from the archive pages, I get a blank page. I've seen others asking this, but have never seen a solution. I think I may have had this working a few years ago, but don't remember what I did to fix it. It broke when cpanel updated mailman. When I try running the mmsearch script by itself, I get the following error, which is expected as I under stand it: htdig Archives Access Failure CGI problem. -5-Field count -4- fields: If you want to make another attempt to access a list archive then go via the list users information page. If this problem persists then please e-mail the following information to the mailman(a)nfbnet.org: Referer not known /mailman/mmsearch/blparent_nfbnet.org Running the htsearch command by itself doesn't yield any results with a keyword and the short format. The version of htdig is 3.2.0b6. I noticed that there are patched versions of rundig and the nightly scripts on the patch site, but don't know if that applies to newer patches or not. Any help would be appreciated.

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importing archived Maildir email lists into Mailman lists archives
by [IDIS Technical Secretariat] Ricardo Rodríguez Sept. 2, 2015

Sept. 2, 2015

Hi everybody! I'm new to most of the fields related with this issue so, please, accept my apologies in advance if the question or the way towards its answer is too obvious! I have a number of Maildir format mailing lists archives and I would like to add them to the archives of the same lists created in a new Mailman installation. I find several messages/scripts doing the job the other way round (mbox/pipermail/mailman to maildir), but nothing about Maildir to Mailman, assumable by a "programming capabilities-less user". Thanks for your time!!! -- Ricardo Rodríguez Research Management and Promotion Technician Technical Secretariat Health Research Institute of Santiago de Compostela (IDIS) http://www.idisantiago.es

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UnicodeDecodeError with Mailman 2.1 and Python 2.6
by David Magda Sept. 2, 2015

Sept. 2, 2015

[Not sure if my first attempt made it out.] Hello, We recently upgrade from Debian 5 to 6, and are now having issues with Mailman. Messages are still flowing properly, but the web archives are not being generated since the upgrade. When I run 'bin/arch mylistname' I get the following: [...] figuring article archives 2005-October /usr/local/mailman-2.1.20/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py:176: UnicodeWarning: Unicode equal comparison failed to convert both arguments to Unicode - interpreting them as being unequal self.dict = marshal.load(fp) /usr/local/mailman-2.1.20/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py:74: UnicodeWarning: Unicode equal comparison failed to convert both arguments to Unicode - interpreting them as being unequal self.sorted.sort() Updating index files for archive [2004-December] [...] Updating HTML for article 214 Pickling archive state into /usr/local/mailman-2.1.20/archives/private/mylistname/pipermail.pck Traceback (most recent call last): File "bin/arch", line 201, in <module> main() File "bin/arch", line 189, in main archiver.processUnixMailbox(fp, start, end) File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.20/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 586, in processUnixMailbox self.add_article(a) File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.20/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 638, in add_article article.parentID = parentID = self.get_parent_info(arch, article) File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.20/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 658, in get_parent_info if self.database.hasArticle(archive, article.in_reply_to): File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.20/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py", line 279, in hasArticle self.__openIndices(archive) File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.20/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py", line 257, in __openIndices t = DumbBTree(os.path.join(arcdir, archive + '-' + i)) File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.20/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py", line 66, in __init__ self.load() File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.20/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py", line 185, in load self.__sort(dirty=1) File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.20/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py", line 74, in __sort self.sorted.sort() UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xea in position 3: ordinal not in range(128) We're running 2.1.13, but as you can see, the problem persists even with the latest release. We're using the stock Debian Python (2.6.6), but Mailman for tarballs. Thanks for any info. Regards, David

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