Mailman 3 October 2016 - Mailman-Users

Moderation not working
by Wouter van Marle 30 Oct '16

30 Oct '16

Hi all, I have a few mails for my list awaiting moderation. When I try to moderate them (in my case, they have to be removed, this were all test mails not intended for posting) it just doesn't work. In the web interface, I open the list, go to "Tend to pending moderator requests", and set the messages to either "Reject" or "Discard", then click the "Submit All Data" button. A pop-up appears, security warning: "The information you have entered on this page will be sent over an insecure connection and could be read by a third party. Are you sure you want to send this information?" I click Continue, and get back the same page with all the to-be-moderated messages untouched. Nothing happens. Any ideas? Wouter.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman stopped archiving
by akgul＠bilkent.edu.tr 30 Oct '16

30 Oct '16

>On 10/27/2016 10:17 AM, Mustafa Akgul wrote: >> >> Hello, >> I have debain 7.11 , mailman 2.1.5-1 i386 >> I have a few lists. All stopped archiving. >> LISTNAME.mbox is not updateing >> I have run chech_perms -f as root. /usr/lib/mailman permissions are OK, and >> permissions of non-links ar OK. > > >What's in Mailman's error log. Are the messages shunted? > >Is ArchRunner running? (whats in Mailman's qrunner log?) > >What's in Mailman's qfiles/archive? qfiles/shunt? > >-- >Mark Sapiro <m...(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, >San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan there is nothing im Mailman error lohg. same ith qrunner. ArchRunning is not running. under qfiles there is nothing in all directories except an entry in 2014 in virgin directory? I do not run anything in cron regarding mailman. Any suggestions? Regards Mustafa Akgul

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Outlook blocking all email - "email harvesting"
by Jim Dory 28 Oct '16

28 Oct '16

I've got a plan with Hawkhost on a VPS server for our community, subscriber only, trade and announcements email list. Outlook has completely blocked us so I've recently gotten messages from mailman bounces that about 400 of our subscribers (all the hotmail, live, outlook, etc. users) have been disabled. I have signed up with the SNDS program and it reports that email is blocked because we are "email harvesting". (I am working with Hawkhost on a trouble ticket). I've tried to sign up with the JMRP program as well but when I click the link I get sent back to the SNDS page and cannot figure out how to get out of that loop to get actual user feedback complaint reports, if any. But that is a different issue. I am hoping you folks can shed some light on what to look for. Here is the report after sending info to https://support.live.com/eform.aspx?productKey=edfsmsbl3&ct=eformts&wa=wsig… : Dear James Dory We have completed reviewing the IP(s) you submitted. The following table contains the results of our investigation. More information needed 198.252.110.38 There are indications that the above IP(s) are engaged in namespace mining. Outlook.com is blocking all email sent from this IP. Namespace mining is a method commonly used by malicious senders to generate lists of email addresses. This approach uses automation to sift through possible email names seeking to identify valid email addresses, e.g., Joe(a)domain.com, John(a)domain.com, and Josy(a)domain.com. You must correct the problem and you must stop the behavior described above. We recommend that you work with your email or network administrator to review the logs of your email servers. Check the sending log files and concentrate on logs that are sending to nonexistent @hotmail.com, @live.com, @msn.com, @outlook.com?with <http://outlook.com/?with> multiple tries and failures.

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getting lots of approval requests for spammers
by Jim Dory 28 Oct '16

28 Oct '16

I'm getting a ton of spam posting attempts to our subscriber only email list - in the order of about 100 to 150 per day and growing. As I need to keep a look out for actual member requests (sometimes a member wants to unsubscribe or is having some problem - a non member wants to subscribe) I have to look through these approval headers to make sure it isn't a local person wanting something. So it becomes a pain. Most spammers use obvious emails so I can mass delete them (harder on my phone when managing the mail) but I'm wondering if there is something I can do to stem the flow. I'm with Hawkhost on a VPS plan (virtual private server) so I have a bit of control - but don't know much about what to do - if there are access/deny lists I can somehow use. I did enable some spam controls but it didn't seem to do anything. It would have to a server level deny list I assume like iptables or something to reject known spammers at least, or whole domains like from foreign companies (.it, .br, .ch , etc) and perhaps some spoofing going on from the likes of domains such as hilton.k12.ny.us <cortez_josephine(a)hilton.k12.ny.us>. thx, Jim

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mailman stopped archiving
by akgul＠bilkent.edu.tr 27 Oct '16

27 Oct '16

Hello, I have debain 7.11 , mailman 2.1.5-1 i386 I have a few lists. All stopped archiving. LISTNAME.mbox is not updateing I have run chech_perms -f as root. /usr/lib/mailman permissions are OK, and permissions of non-links ar OK. I have also added w permission to all for directories. Nothing happend. Any suggestions ? Best regards Mustafa Akgul

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cannot subscribe from outside using web interface
by Camelia Botez 27 Oct '16

27 Oct '16

Our mailman server is on DMZ and a couple of month ago was changed to work https. >From inside LAN we can access mailman.domain/mailman/listinfo/test and subscribe using browser interface. >From outside LAN we get : The site cannot be reached mailman.org refused to connect. Any idea ? Thank you for help

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"Prevent" Reply-all
by Ryan C Stasel 25 Oct '16

25 Oct '16

Hi everyone, I’ve been googling a bit, but the only thing I can find is from back in 2010 (https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2010-May/069388.html) as to if it’s possible to configure a mailman list to “prevent” reply-all. Basically, I support a lot of users that seem to not realize the difference between the two, or they just don’t care if everyone gets inundated with “thanks” and “congrats” responses. So I’m curious if there’s any way to make a mailman list not easily accommodate reply-all. I thought reply-to munging would work, but it doesn’t sound like it does. What I want is really what rpschwar wanted back then. User A send message to list. List members get the mail, but it “appears” to be from User A and not from the list. So a Reply and Reply-all both do the same thing. To really reply-all, users would have to physically type in the mail list address into their To or CC fields. Is this possible (short of re-educating our users about how “reply-all” really isn’t appropriate in most cases)? Thanks! -Ryan Stasel

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Migrating Mailman to New Server (Same Domain)
by Jewel Brueggeman-Makda 25 Oct '16

25 Oct '16

TGIF Mailman Gurus, My current Mailman 2.1.12 server is lists.washlaw.edu and is running on a RedHat vm. I need to move it onto a new server which already has a new instance of Mailman 2.1.22 also on a RedHat vm. I already ran the ./configure command to be the same setup as the OLD server. I have searched the discussion list archives on the steps and am not fully understanding what needs to be done. Below are the steps I do know I need to take but then I am at a loss. 1. Post Postfix, Apache and Mialman on OLD server and NEW servers 2. Tar up the lists and archives from the mailman directory and copy the tar files to the new server a. tar xvfx /usr/local/mailman/lists b. tar xvfz /usr/local/mailman/archives 3. Untar the lists and archives onto NEW server a. tar -xvf lists.tgz b. tar -xvf archives.tgz c. Run from /usr/local/mailman/bin ./check_perms -f 4. Run newaliases Thanks, Jewel

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Recursive lists
by Julian Kippels 24 Oct '16

24 Oct '16

Hi, is it possible to subsrcibe a list to another list? For example I have the lists scientists@domain, students@domain and all@domain. I would like to subscribe the scientists and students lists to all so that I can reach everyone with a single list. Thanks Julian

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Start qrunner on ElCapitan (MacOS X Server)
by Matthias Schmidt 23 Oct '16

23 Oct '16

Hello, I’m trying to start mailman on startup with ElCapitan. I tried a plist in LaunchDaemons - that was working in the past with the command: /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start this produces now the error: Service only ran for 2 seconds. Pushing respawn out by 8 seconds the error log says: The master qrunner lock could not be acquired because it appears as if another master qrunner is already running So it starts, creates a lock as localhost … and then it tries to start again. than I created a startup script as described here: https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual… and it does … nothing the only thing which works currently is starting it manually with sudo and this is kind of inconvenient I installed mailman manually without using macports or something like that. I hope someone on the list can share some insight here. thanks Matthias

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