Mailman 3 November 2017 - Mailman-Users

spam discard expressions
by Jim Dory March 8, 2018

March 8, 2018

Apparently our host provider performs spam tests only on outgoing, rather than incoming - since my spamassassin blacklists don't have any effect. So I've discovered the filters offered in Mailman after being completely buried by spammers trying to post to our subscriber only list. I've started putting these in Sender Filters: ^[^@]+@bcira\.com$ ^[^@]+@airablo\.com$ ^[^@]+@bfklaw\.com$ ^[^@]+@bettella\.com$ ^[^@]+@areallycool\.com$ ^[^@]+@aristo-tec\.com$ ^[^@]+@benallgood\.com$ ^[^@]+@al-meshkah\.com$ ^[^@]+@atoccs\.stream$ ^[^@]+@authors\.com$ ^[^@]+@aulson\.com$ ^[^@]+@atmyx\.bid$ ^[^@]+@airtecperforms\.com$ but what is the syntax for blocking domains ending in .loan .stream .trade etc, other than .com. I've been reading up on python expressions but at first reading it is a bit overwhelming - hoping for a simple example. I've also started adding in words under Spam filters such as: ^Subject: .*Phentermine ^Subject: .*F\*buddy ^Subject: .*H00kup ^Subject: .*InstaF\*ck ^Subject: .*Instacheat Wondering if anyone would care to share their lists of filters - or a good resource? thanks, Jim

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Stadistics
by Jesus Rivas Dec. 2, 2017

Dec. 2, 2017

Hi, there are any way to get statistics from mailman 2.1.14, some graphical, i use pflogsumm, there are any software for statistics like used for mailchimp and other? Thanks. Saludos Cualquier duda estoy a tus ordenes. Dios te bendiga. Jesús Rivas Ayudante de Sistemas T. (01 81) 8123-1293 01 800 836 9407 website | vCard | facebook | twitter

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Suppress new incoming messages, but able to view private archives
by Dang Tran Dec. 1, 2017

Dec. 1, 2017

Good day – Please could someone help me if there’s an option: Can I set up a subscriber so that s/he has access to the archives (private), but does not receive messages? Another word – suppress new incoming message, only be able to view archives. Thank you. ------- Best Regards, Dang

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Is Yahoo.com bouncing your lists?
by Steven Clift Nov. 29, 2017

Nov. 29, 2017

While we use GroupServer.org, I've found that when you had DMARC, etc. issues with AOL, we did too. Yahoo is bouncing hundreds of our members. How about you? Steve

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Blog: Using Mailman 2 in a machine without a mail server
by Jesus Cea Nov. 25, 2017

Nov. 25, 2017

I hope somebody finds this article useful. Using Mailman 2 in a machine without a mail server https://blog.jcea.es/posts/20161126-mailman.html Unfortunately I am not covering Mailman 3 because I haven't jumped yet, waiting for a migration path from Mailman 2 beside the obvious burn & start over :). -- Jesús Cea Avión _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ jcea(a)jcea.es - http://www.jcea.es/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ Twitter: @jcea _/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ jabber / xmpp:jcea@jabber.org _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "Things are not so easy" _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "My name is Dump, Core Dump" _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "El amor es poner tu felicidad en la felicidad de otro" - Leibniz

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Time Stand Still
by Barry Warsaw Nov. 23, 2017

Nov. 23, 2017

Somewhen in the dark recesses of intarweb history, I found myself as the project leader for both Jython (née JPython) and GNU Mailman. I'd been involved with Jython since it was invented by Jim Hugunin around the time he came to work with us at Pythonlabs. I'd been contributing to Mailman since we inherited John Viega's Python-based Dave Matthews Band list server, and put it to use replacing python.org's Majordomo installation. I'd enjoyed both projects, but knew I could not lead both, so I had to make a choice. I chose to turn over Jython to a team that's done a much better job over the years than I ever could have. Something about email, and especially the communication and collaboration patterns that it facilitates, really fascinated me. I know, I know, but we all have our lapses of sanity. Mine has lasted almost 20 years, a bit more than "momentary" perhaps. I've rarely gotten paid to work on Mailman, but it did provide me some great opportunities. Most notably it led to my 10 year stint at Canonical. I was originally hired on there to integrate mailing lists with Launchpad, and Mailman was the obvious choice. I learned a ton doing that project, and working within the constraints of integrating the two Python-based systems, especially since Launchpad was originally not free software and Mailman was GPL'd. Later, the Zope-based Launchpad source code was released under the AGPL, making much of the monkeypatching unnecessary, but by then the system was solid and reliable, and you don't fix what's not broken. Except, I guess I did. I took a lot of the lessons from that work, along with a good hard look at all the problems with Mailman 2, and began to break another cardinal rule of software development: second system syndrome. The result is Mailman 3. It took forever, and we're still not at complete feature parity with Mailman 2, but at least it's Real Enough to be used at many Real Sites, including python.org and lists.fedoraprojects.org. It would be ridiculous for me to take significant credit for this. I have to acknowledge the amazing user community -- you! -- for all the support, patches, suggestions, feedback, patience, criticism, donations, and contributions that you've given to the project, and to me personally over the years. And my deepest gratitude goes to all the core developers that have stayed or come and gone, but most especially the current Cabal: Abhilash Raj, Aurelien Bompard, Florian Fuchs, Mark Sapiro, Stephen J. Turnbull, Terri Oda. You should know that each and every one of them is truly awesome, both in what they contribute technically, and in their amazing friendships. Mailman is infinitely better because of their involvement, and I've loved spending time with them over the years at the Pycon sprints, making releases and sharing teas and meals. My blog is called We Fear Change, and that's humorously taken from a 90's bit in Mike Myer's excellent Wayne's World movie (a phrase actually uttered by the brilliant Dana Carvey as Garth). The irony of course is that while we all may fear change, it's the one constant thing we can count on. And in fact, we *require* change to thrive, because if you aren't changing, you aren't alive. Time, and being engaged with life's vagaries, means there's no alternative to change; it must be embraced. And so, with a vague reference to the many (good!) changes in my personal and professional life, I'm announcing that I'm stepping down from the project leadership role of GNU Mailman, effective... nowish! And it's with unanimous agreement among the GNU Mailman Steering Committee (a.k.a. the Mailman Cabal), that we are announcing Abhilash Raj as the new project leader. If you don't recognize Abhilash's name, you probably aren't paying attention, at least to Mailman 3. Abhilash came to us in 2013 as a Google Summer of Code student, and he's become one of the project's most valuable contributors. His list of accomplishments is long, and it includes everything from redesigning the website, to integrating CI with our GitLab build system, porting our code to the SQLAlchemy ORM, adding MySQL support, revving up adoption through his Docker images, along with his great coding work on Core, Postorius, HyperKitty, and mailmanclient. This transition is good for the project too. Email, its defining protocols and standards, and its role in our daily lives, has changed profoundly since the early days of Mailman. A fresh perspective and enthusiasm will help keep Mailman relevant to the changing ways we -- especially the FLOSS and tech communities -- communicate. Please join me in supporting Abhilash in every way possible as he takes over in this new role as project leader. I'll be here when and if needed, even as I create space in my "spare" time for... Something Else. I look forward to the vision that Abhilash will bring to the project, and I know that he will do a great job. To me, Mailman has always been about collaboration, and the best way for it to succeed is for you to continue to contribute your insights, experiences, opinions, and skills with positive intention. -Barry https://www.wefearchange.org/

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Extra welcome text not used
by Harmen Mesker Nov. 23, 2017

Nov. 23, 2017

Hi all Mailman aficionados, I have an odd problem with one of my mailing lists. I have added extra text in the welcome_msg field to be send to new members but that field is not used. Instead new members get to see this: Welkom op de %(real_name)s@%(host_name) maillijst! %(welcome)s Berichten naar deze lijst kunt u richten aan het volgende adres: %(emailaddr)s Algemene informatie over de maillijst kunt u vinden op: %(listinfo_url)s etc. (it's in Dutch). I assume this is the standard welcome text but as you can see it gives variable names instead of their values. And the text from the welcome_msg field is not used. The send_welcome_msg is switched on and as far as I can see that is the only other option for the welcome message. Am I missing something? Am I goofing up? Any ideas where to look? Thanks for helping me out. My website and Mailman is on a cPanel hosting server. Kind regards, Harmen.

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AOL recipients getting scrambled html messages
by Terry Nov. 18, 2017

Nov. 18, 2017

I have a few members in a list that have addresses at AOL.com and lately they are reporting that the messages they receive via my distribution list are garbled. What's really happening is that aol is displaying raw html code to them instead of the message. Below is a short excerpt of the start of the messge they receive. There's a strange class="aolReplacedBody" in the first few lines that implies that aol is really messing with the html. Any ideas what's happening and how to fix it? Terry /SAMPLE OF CORRUPTED EMAIL: / /To: members(a)mydomain.com Sent: 11/15/2017 4:36:01 PM Pacific Standard Time Subject: [CSR] Amazingly Awesome Memorial <div id="AOLMsgPart_1.2_4219e60e-c0fd-404c-85fc-bed2fc88db83"> <div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="aolReplacedBody"><div><blockquote class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;" class=""><div class="m_4319761772406486274yahoo_quoted" id="m_4319761772406486274yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510520612793_65525" style="display: block;"><div style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;" id="m_4319761772406486274yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510520612793_65524" class=""><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;" id="m_4319761772406486274yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510520612793_65523" class=""><div........./

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changing url for administration
by Ruben Safir Nov. 14, 2017

Nov. 14, 2017

I need to change the url for accepting messages that are deferred within and need to be handled by the lists admin page. The submit button is pointed to a dead URL and I need to change it to list.myurl.com Ruben -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013

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Removing archived spam
by Hal Nov. 14, 2017

Nov. 14, 2017

I run a low-volume mailing list (using Mailman 2.1.12) and I see that a few spam-messages have gotten through, which also means they're archived. I would like to remove them but all the info I can find when searching online are along the lines of "hard to do", "shouldn't be attempted", "impossible" and so on. Is this correct, or is there a solution? Perhaps it helps to say that for the past two months (September and October) each of those only contains one message each, and they're spam. Other months contain a mix of spam and legitimate messages. Hal

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